Re: [tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[Greg Hodgins]

Hi Pit.  In searching for mind mapping software this AM I discovered 
concept mapping is really what I was looking for - at least I think.  This 
led me to TiddlyMap and TiddlyWiki. I haven't been so stoked to get a new 
piece of technology working in a while.  Of course this has led to 
diversions with node.js and where I might host to allow access anywhere. 
 Whether I should create a Docker image to make the whole thing portable, 
and so on, distracting me from my original task at hand.  LOL.

Given you appear to successfully be using both and more with success (wiki 
and map) I'm wondering if you can offer guidance as to whether TM can be 
run successfully on node.js or not.  Any downside?  Part of the reason I am 
asking, is after struggling for the first while with the simplest of tasks, 
trying to install per the documentation by dragging and dropping, only to 
eventually realize that IE doesn't support it, eventually I dropped the 
first plugin onto my wiki page and it crashed.  The wiki won't load now 
either.  I see this has happened to others.  I am not sure if it is 
something than can occur with a single file wiki as well or not.

I'm not at all disturbed by losing my brand new empty wiki and will be 
careful with future installs I am about to attempt again.

My real question as stated is whether you are running node.js or not.

I'm excited to see a fairly active community here and hope to spend some 
more time this weekend getting this to work for me.

Thanks.

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 1:19:00 PM UTC-4, Pit.W. wrote:
>
> I have replaced OneNote with Tiddlywiki by using TiddlyClip - COMPLETELY!
>
> ... MS Project with Timeline
> ... and Mindmap with Tiddlymap.org 
>
> ... added Tidgraph for organigrams and logic / decision  trees
>
> ... added datepicker for convenience (I find it helpful to set 
> format="-MM-DD" and fieldFormat="-MM-DD" and adjust the 
> journal-date-setting to -0MM-0DD)
>
> AND NEVER LOOKED BACK!
>
>
> Other plugins you might like (I have them in all my templates) are
>
> -encrypt tiddler plugin
>
> -checklistdemo
>
> -simple calendar macro   http://simplecalendar.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
> wrap it all up in one file for use as a template; put it on a USB or 
> phone; got to work, collect data,
>
> later import into a TW running under node.js and process it.
>
>
>
>
> Am 2016-08-02 um 04:39 schrieb Jonathan Bean:
>
> I would also like to replace my onenote notebook for my project with a 
> tidlywiki. 
> I am also using tiddlymap. 
> I just started using tiddlywiki.
>
>
> On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 11:35:08 PM UTC-5, tim O wrote: 
>>
>> I currently use OneNote to organize content for documentation of 
>> projects, server configuration, etc. I need to be able to save images, 
>> PDFs, etc. with most of my documentation. One of my concerns is that this 
>> may slow down the general responsiveness of an TiddlyWiki instance.
>> Who else is using TW as a OneNote replacement? Any feedback for a 
>> newcomer?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[Pit.W.]

I have replaced OneNote with Tiddlywiki by using TiddlyClip - COMPLETELY!

... MS Project with Timeline

... and Mindmap with Tiddlymap.org

... added Tidgraph for organigrams and logic / decision  trees

... added datepicker for convenience (I find it helpful to set 
format="-MM-DD" and fieldFormat="-MM-DD" and adjust the 
journal-date-setting to -0MM-0DD)


AND NEVER LOOKED BACK!


Other plugins you might like (I have them in all my templates) are

-encrypt tiddler plugin

-checklistdemo

-simple calendar macro   http://simplecalendar.tiddlyspot.com/


wrap it all up in one file for use as a template; put it on a USB or 
phone; got to work, collect data,


later import into a TW running under node.js and process it.




Am 2016-08-02 um 04:39 schrieb Jonathan Bean:
I would also like to replace my onenote notebook for my project with a 
tidlywiki.

I am also using tiddlymap.
I just started using tiddlywiki.


On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 11:35:08 PM UTC-5, tim O wrote:

I currently use OneNote to organize content for documentation of
projects, server configuration, etc. I need to be able to save
images, PDFs, etc. with most of my documentation. One of my
concerns is that this may slow down the general responsiveness of
an TiddlyWiki instance.
Who else is using TW as a OneNote replacement? Any feedback for a
newcomer?

Thanks

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[tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[Jonathan Bean]

I would also like to replace my onenote notebook for my project with a 
tidlywiki.
I am also using tiddlymap. 
I just started using tiddlywiki.


On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 11:35:08 PM UTC-5, tim O wrote:
>
> I currently use OneNote to organize content for documentation of projects, 
> server configuration, etc. I need to be able to save images, PDFs, etc. 
> with most of my documentation. One of my concerns is that this may slow 
> down the general responsiveness of an TiddlyWiki instance.
> Who else is using TW as a OneNote replacement? Any feedback for a newcomer?
>
> Thanks
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[Secret-HQ]

On Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 10:16:41 PM UTC-5, tim O wrote:

where do you find "application/pdf" or is this a plug-in?
>

It isn't listed in the dropdown, but it works as a recognized tiddler type 
if you manually enter it.  ;)

I find Tobias's macro serves the same function without all the typing.   I 
just create a tiddler named "myPDF.pdf" with <> as 
the tiddler body, and voilà — a beautifully embedded PDF.

I did make one slight tweak to the macro to suit my own preferences, 
however; I display the link at the top, so it's easy to click on when I'm 
using TiddlyDesktop, where I can't view PDFs in frames:

\define pdf(url)
> open in new 
> window
>  allowfullscreen/>
> \end
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[tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[tim O]

Hi, SecretHQ. I've first used TW several years ago. Not sure why I 
abandoned it. I will have to use OneNote professionally; I can't completely 
ditch it. But, I've always liked TW for its modular approach and the fact 
that you can break down information tidbits in smaller and smaller chunks. 
Very powerful. And I like it being OpenSource. I will read up on 
ExternalImages. Tiddle typ options are Dev / Text / Images. where do you 
find "application/pdf" or is this a plug-in?
Thanks for the feedback!

On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 6:59:03 AM UTC-8, Secret-HQ wrote:
>
> Hi, Tim —
>
> I had been using OneNote for six or eight months when I first discovered 
> TiddlyWiki, sometime around 2009/'10.  Though I can no longer remember 
> what, there was something I desperatley wanted to do in OneNote and 
> couldn't — and someone on Twitter suggested I check out TiddlyWiki.  I 
> haven't looked back.
>
> If you drag and drop files into TiddlyWiki to import and store them there, 
> your wiki probably *WILL* grow faster than you can manage it.  But if you 
> take a few extra moments to put those files in a folder alongside your 
> TiddlyWiki and reference them with canonical URIs, you'll be able to 
> navigate and view them in TiddlyWiki without the massive impact on 
> performance.
>
> See http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages for some basic information on 
> handling images.
>
> You can do the same trick with PDFs — just set the tiddler type to 
> "application/pdf" — but I've found that I can't view PDFs in TiddlyDesktop 
> (which runs on Node.js), even though they render fine in the browser.  So 
> you may want to check out Tobias Beer's PDF macro 
> , which 
> allows you to view PDFs through an iframe AND have a direct link to open 
> them, in case you're opening your TiddlyWiki in an environment where they 
> aren't displaying in the frame.
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[tim O]

Hi, Mat. I will check out Tobias' stuff. Thanks

On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 1:44:15 AM UTC-8, Mat wrote:
>
> Hi tim! This is not a very helpful answer but still;
>
> In one sense I guess we all use TW as a OneNote replacement. Images, pdf's 
> etc are not saved *in* TW, rather you link to them or have them show "via" 
> TW. Frankly, I'm a bit insecure myself on the best way for this. But I 
> recommend you to start by checking out Tobias' fantastic stuff 
>  and search for "pdf" and 
> "images" etc.
>
> I hope people who have experience with OneNote will answer you here and 
> give pro's and con's. IMO we see too little explicit comparison between 
> alternative solutions. Maybe few people have experience with other systems 
> - if you like TW you stick with it (my case) and if someone can't stand 
> tiddlyfiddling I guess they  leave pretty soon.
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 5:35:08 AM UTC+1, tim O wrote:
>>
>> I currently use OneNote to organize content for documentation of 
>> projects, server configuration, etc. I need to be able to save images, 
>> PDFs, etc. with most of my documentation. One of my concerns is that this 
>> may slow down the general responsiveness of an TiddlyWiki instance.
>> Who else is using TW as a OneNote replacement? Any feedback for a 
>> newcomer?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[Mat]

Hi tim! This is not a very helpful answer but still;

In one sense I guess we all use TW as a OneNote replacement. Images, pdf's 
etc are not saved *in* TW, rather you link to them or have them show "via" 
TW. Frankly, I'm a bit insecure myself on the best way for this. But I 
recommend you to start by checking out Tobias' fantastic stuff 
 and search for "pdf" and "images" 
etc.

I hope people who have experience with OneNote will answer you here and 
give pro's and con's. IMO we see too little explicit comparison between 
alternative solutions. Maybe few people have experience with other systems 
- if you like TW you stick with it (my case) and if someone can't stand 
tiddlyfiddling I guess they  leave pretty soon.

<:-)



On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 5:35:08 AM UTC+1, tim O wrote:
>
> I currently use OneNote to organize content for documentation of projects, 
> server configuration, etc. I need to be able to save images, PDFs, etc. 
> with most of my documentation. One of my concerns is that this may slow 
> down the general responsiveness of an TiddlyWiki instance.
> Who else is using TW as a OneNote replacement? Any feedback for a newcomer?
>
> Thanks
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 node.js; TiddlyWiki to replace OneNote

[Scott Simmons]

Hi, Tim —

I had been using OneNote for six or eight months when I first discovered 
TiddlyWiki, sometime around 2009/'10.  Though I can no longer remember 
what, there was something I desperatley wanted to do in OneNote and 
couldn't — and someone on Twitter suggested I check out TiddlyWiki.  I 
haven't looked back.

If you drag and drop files into TiddlyWiki to import and store them there, 
your wiki probably *WILL* grow faster than you can manage it.  But if you 
take a few extra moments to put those files in a folder alongside your 
TiddlyWiki and reference them with canonical URIs, you'll be able to 
navigate and view them in TiddlyWiki without the massive impact on 
performance.

See http://tiddlywiki.com/#ExternalImages for some basic information on 
handling images.

You can do the same trick with PDFs — just set the tiddler type to 
"application/pdf" — but I've found that I can't view PDFs in TiddlyDesktop 
(which runs on Node.js), even though they render fine in the browser.  So 
you may want to check out Tobias Beer's PDF macro 
, which allows 
you to view PDFs through an iframe AND have a direct link to open them, in 
case you're opening your TiddlyWiki in an environment where they aren't 
displaying in the frame.

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