[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

Are you sure you're not better using Word or something like that?

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Josh]

>
> No I like the modular nature of tiddlywiki, it is simple and easy to 
> search and find things from all directions. 
>
 

> However putting lots of text into tables becomes very complex and 
> difficult to read without a GUI.
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Freitag, 22. November 2013 11:50:42 UTC+1 schrieb Josh:
>
>
> However putting lots of text into tables becomes very complex and 
>> difficult to read without a GUI.
>>
>
That's why I once changed my edit views to use monospaced fonts.

But anyway: If it's lots of text in tables, maybe some other approach would 
be better suted? Could you, for example, put the texts into individual 
tiddlers which you aggregate into the table? 

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Josh]

>
> Stephan, putting the texts into individual tiddlers and aggregating them 
> would be great, not sure how to put them in a table though, I can only show 
> a list of tiddlers with a tag, can you help me?
>

1. Is there a TW Developers post somewhere I can read which shows how to 
write javascript queries, so I can ask more intelligent questions for 
things like 

1. 1. creating a list of tiddlers and their titles which have a tag (this I 
can do)

1. 2. aggregating tiddlers into a table? 

1. 3. Adding items to a dropdown

1. 4. adding items to a dropdown dyanamically, say for example if they have 
the project tag? or if they have both the "task" and "done" tags add them 
to a dropdown?


Having seen a lot of examples of what people have done with TWC and TW5 I 
am inspired to modify the standard TW5 and create my own for managing tasks 
and projects. One that recently caught my eye was 
http://nocategories.net/tiddlywiki/bestrew.html where Dylan I believe has 
integrated a HTML table with wikitext inside the column and row elements to 
display the tiddler fields.

I have been shown how to create the buttons, but I cannot create a static 
or dynamic dropdown. I also do not know how to in my below example, create 
a list of tasks without an assigned project?

1. a button for new task tiddler (tagged with task), title of tiddler will 
be the task name. From the new Task tiddler you would be able to assign it 
to an existing project using a dropdown or create a new task that doesn't 
have an associated project.

Many Thanks, 

Josh




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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Freitag, 22. November 2013 13:11:03 UTC+1 schrieb Josh:
>
> Stephan, putting the texts into individual tiddlers and aggregating them 
>> would be great, not sure how to put them in a table though, I can only show 
>> a list of tiddlers with a tag, can you help me?
>>
>
This example will show the 4 tiddlers A1, B1, A2, B2 in a table. Does that 
help?

|{{A1}} |{{B1}} |
|{{A2}} |{{B2}} |



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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Dylan Kinnett]

On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:11:03 AM UTC-5, Josh wrote:
>
> Having seen a lot of examples of what people have done with TWC and TW5 I 
> am inspired to modify the standard TW5 and create my own for managing tasks 
> and projects. One that recently caught my eye was 
> http://nocategories.net/tiddlywiki/bestrew.html
>  where 
> Dylan I believe has integrated a HTML table with wikitext inside the column 
> and row elements to display the tiddler fields.
>

I cobbled my tables together somewhat manually and I would say that if I 
knew of a faster/easier way, it might have gone faster. The HTML table I 
borrowed was already styled for TW5 (not the class values in the HTML 
markup). I copied it from the HTML used to present fields metadata in the 
"get info" view. I cleaned out the contents of the table and wrapped it in 
some TiddlyTags to make it display my own custom fields. Here's a cleaner 
example of the markup I used. In this example, I'm getting all the tiddlers 
tagged "submission" and then building out a table to list each of those 
tiddlers' custom fields:  

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]sort[title]tag[submissions]!is[system]]">
 
 
 
 Work Submitted
 
 <$edit field="sub_work" type="select">
 
 Venue Sent
 
 <$edit field="sub_venue">
 
 
 
 Status
 
 <$edit field="sub_status">
 
 blank
 blank
 
 
 Send Date
 
 <$edit field="send_date">
 
 Reply Date
 
 <$edit field="reply_date">
 
 
 
 
 





note: with the current version of TW5, you have to take out all the 
linebreaks before this will work properly. In SublimeText  you can just 
select the code and do command(or control)+J to "join" all the lines up 
before pasting it into your Tiddler.

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Dylan Kinnett]

On Friday, November 22, 2013 10:55:01 AM UTC-5, Dylan Kinnett wrote:
>
> (not the class values in the HTML markup). 
>

Sorry, I meant to say "NOTE" the class values. 

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

What about macros?

\define a_field(field_name, field_var)
$field_name$
 
 <$edit field="$field_var$" type="select">
 
\end

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]sort[title]tag[demo]!is[system]]">
 
 
 
<><>
 
 
<>blankblank
 
 
 <><>
 
 
 
 




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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

Ups! Typo
<>

should have been
<>


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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Dylan Kinnett]

That looks like an interesting method. I'll be sure to try it out. I'm new 
to the idea of Tiddlywiki Macros. Is this wiki article on the 
subjectreliable
 for TW5 as well as for TWC? 

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Ton Gerner]

For TWc Vincent Yeh made plugins (View mode editor) [1] for editing tables 
(and other block elements) in View mode.

The table editing part I use daily. You can edit table cells, 
insert/delete/copy/paste rows and columns.

Table editing was always very difficult in TWc and is now a pleasure with 
his plugin(s).

If somebody could make such a plugin for TW5 

Cheers,

Ton


[1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/0FT6iBneYOk/xF277ONBBYAJ

On Friday, November 22, 2013 5:19:41 PM UTC+1, Dylan Kinnett wrote:
>
> That looks like an interesting method. I'll be sure to try it out. I'm new 
> to the idea of Tiddlywiki Macros. Is this wiki article on the 
> subjectreliable
>  for TW5 as well as for TWC? 
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, November 22, 2013 8:19:41 AM UTC-8, Dylan Kinnett wrote:
>
> That looks like an interesting method. I'll be sure to try it out. I'm new 
> to the idea of Tiddlywiki Macros. Is this wiki article on the 
> subjectreliable
>  for TW5 as well as for TWC? 
>

TWC and TW5 have completely different macro architectures.  The methods 
described for macros in TWC do *not* apply to TW5 at all.

-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / TiddlyWiki Classic Lead Developer 

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Dylan Kinnett]

I tried this format below and found that it worked nicely, without the need 
for all that extra HTML. Also, it works without having to delete the line 
breaks (in fact the line breaks are required).

<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]sort[title]tag[submissions]!is[system]]">
|!label |!field |
|Work Submitted | <$edit field="sub_work" type="select">|
|Venue Sent | <$edit field="sub_venue">|
|Status | <$edit field="sub_status">|
|blank | blank|
|Send Date  | <$edit field="send_date">|




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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

I can't help with tables, but maybe some bookmarklets come in handy?

http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/#TW5%20Format%20Bookmarklets

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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Stephan,

Very nice. I added 'bold italic' too.
One typo: for bold there are dual bacticks `` instead of dual single quotes 
''.

There is one strange thing: if you apply the styling by these bookmarklets 
and click 'done', the styles don't persist. You have to do some 'manual' 
editing before you click 'done'.

Something to do with focus or so?

Cheers,

Ton


On Monday, November 25, 2013 4:34:17 PM UTC+1, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> I can't help with tables, but maybe some bookmarklets come in handy?
>
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/#TW5%20Format%20Bookmarklets
>
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[tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

Thanks for testing, Ton. I think, I have to fire some event after changing 
the textarea's content, but I couldn't yet find out, which event. It's not 
"onchange" :(

I hope Jeremy can help.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Dylan

The syntax you've ended up with makes a separate table for each list entry.
That means that the columns of the consecutive tables won't necessarily
match up.

If you use the HTML syntax, but move the TABLE and TBODY elements up
outside of the list widget, then you'll get a single table. Modifying your
code above:

 
 
<$list filter="[!has[draft.of]sort[title]tag[submissions]!is[system]]">
 
.

 
 

 
 

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Dylan Kinnett wrote:

> I tried this format below and found that it worked nicely, without the
> need for all that extra HTML. Also, it works without having to delete the
> line breaks (in fact the line breaks are required).
>
> <$list filter="[!has[draft.of]sort[title]tag[submissions]!is[system]]">
> |!label |!field |
> |Work Submitted | <$edit field="sub_work" type="select">|
> |Venue Sent | <$edit field="sub_venue">|
> |Status | <$edit field="sub_status">|
> |blank | blank|
> |Send Date  | <$edit field="send_date">|
> 
>
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Dylan Kinnett]

I like having it all in one table, and a single row for each item, but I 
run into some issues when I do it that way. Either one row becomes too wide 
for the story-river or, if I make the rows more narrow, then it becomes 
hard to tell one item apart from the next, when its all one table. I 
thought that building separate tables (with multiple rows and a smaller 
width) for each item seemed to be a suitable fix?

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Dylan

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Dylan Kinnett wrote:

> I like having it all in one table, and a single row for each item, but I
> run into some issues when I do it that way. Either one row becomes too wide
> for the story-river or, if I make the rows more narrow, then it becomes
> hard to tell one item apart from the next, when its all one table. I
> thought that building separate tables (with multiple rows and a smaller
> width) for each item seemed to be a suitable fix?
>

Yup, makes perfect sense. I was explaining it to show why you might want to
use HTML syntax over wikitext syntax for tables.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stephan

Great stuff, bookmarklets are very handy. I do plan to make it possible to
have TW5 automatically generate bookmarklets from the text of a tiddler
(ie, do the URL encoding and link creation).

Anyhow, the edit-text widget listens for the "input" event.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Stephan Hradek wrote:

> Thanks for testing, Ton. I think, I have to fire some event after changing
> the textarea's content, but I couldn't yet find out, which event. It's not
> "onchange" :(
>
> I hope Jeremy can help.
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 plugin request - Allows you to edit tables using a GUI, and or apply formatting such as headings using a GUI, I am finding it really time consuming to create tables using the syntax.

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Montag, 25. November 2013 20:25:27 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Hi Stephan
>
> Great stuff, bookmarklets are very handy. I do plan to make it possible to 
> have TW5 automatically generate bookmarklets from the text of a tiddler 
> (ie, do the URL encoding and link creation).
>

You have my skype address: Tell me how I can help.
 

>
> Anyhow, the edit-text widget listens for the "input" event.
>

 Thanks! That got me going! Bookmarklets on tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com are 
updated.

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