[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-13 Thread Kosmaton
Hello,

I just noticed a similar case - all content (& favicon etc) of my veminra 
space, as opposed to the theme it uses, had been included in another space 
by someone experimenting with TW/TS. I got in touch with them (there was a 
link to their site) and they've kindly fixed it right away.

How about a flag to disallow inclusion of a particular space? To distinguish 
'building spaces' from 'building block spaces'.

[K]

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
Seems that Jeremy could get in touch with the owner.
So should be fixed soon.
thx
-m

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread passingby
There is a tiddler in which Hindi language is used in Roman script. It talks 
about Aloo-prantha (Indian bread with potato filling), which is something 
which I love!
I think the owner of the space is new to tiddlyspace/tiddlywiki world and 
has done this inadvertently. I hope he reads this and solves this. 

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 12:00, "cd...@peermore.com"  wrote:
>If the situation becomes abusive one option is for us to drop a
>message into the space with contact information and block the person
>from editing. I'd prefer not do that if other options are available.
I think it was an accident. That's why it would be interesting, how it
happened. I do have an idea, but want to be sure.

> It does seem like a problem we'll need to address in a more formal way
> as TiddlySpace grows.
Since TiddlySpace has no "terms of use" or "terms of service" yet,
actions could be quite difficult. Since my site has some licensing
info with it, I am pretty sure I can act and I will, if it is needed.

I think, I'll post in TiddlyWeb group about this.

kind regards
mario

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 12:23, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> Hi Mario
>
> Sorry about this. I did some digging around and found the Google+
> profile of the owner, and have dropped them a line. I suspect that it
> was an accident,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
Thx,
I did find the profile, at the raemses space and posted 2 mails
allready. No answere yet.

I normal cases I am pleased if someone uses my themes but since it
seems that my whole space was copied, I am not that happy.

I also suspect that it was an accident. Console seems to be the space,
that was created first for some experiments. raemses seems to be the
main space, since it contains "standard" content and a different
SiteIcon. But the user still is console, and all posts carry my
SiteIcon. Since this is me, I may be a little bit paranoid about
this :)

Thx for taking care.
mario

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread PMario
On 11 Jul., 12:00, "cd...@peermore.com"  wrote:
> You can inspect the public recipe for spaces just as easily as anyone
> else:http://raemes.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/raemes_public
Thx Chris for having a look.
I know, I can visit the recipe. But I don't see, if something seems to
be wrong.
thx :)

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Re: [tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mario

Sorry about this. I did some digging around and found the Google+
profile of the owner, and have dropped them a line. I suspect that it
was an accident,

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:00 AM, cd...@peermore.com
 wrote:
> On Jul 9, 8:18 pm, PMario  wrote:
>> PS: @cdent or TiddlySpace admin, please check if there is a problem
>> with the recipe settings.
>
> I did some looking around and all I can tell is that, based on the
> timing of the activity, that the content is being copied/manipulated
> by a human, not a bot or script. So somebody is manually going around
> and getting at your content, for reasons unclear.
>
> You can inspect the public recipe for spaces just as easily as anyone
> else: http://raemes.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/raemes_public
>
> That suggests nothing special is going on.
>
> This is a very interesting problem, I'm not sure how to resolve it. It
> reflects the web at large with places like content farms copying
> content from elsewhere on the web. In those situations conflicts are
> resolved by contacting the representatives of the farms. In this case
> we don't know who is driving the raemes space.
>
> If the situation becomes abusive one option is for us to drop a
> message into the space with contact information and block the person
> from editing. I'd prefer not do that if other options are available.
>
> It does seem like a problem we'll need to address in a more formal way
> as TiddlySpace grows.
>
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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Jul 9, 8:18 pm, PMario  wrote:
> PS: @cdent or TiddlySpace admin, please check if there is a problem
> with the recipe settings.

I did some looking around and all I can tell is that, based on the
timing of the activity, that the content is being copied/manipulated
by a human, not a bot or script. So somebody is manually going around
and getting at your content, for reasons unclear.

You can inspect the public recipe for spaces just as easily as anyone
else: http://raemes.tiddlyspace.com/recipes/raemes_public

That suggests nothing special is going on.

This is a very interesting problem, I'm not sure how to resolve it. It
reflects the web at large with places like content farms copying
content from elsewhere on the web. In those situations conflicts are
resolved by contacting the representatives of the farms. In this case
we don't know who is driving the raemes space.

If the situation becomes abusive one option is for us to drop a
message into the space with contact information and block the person
from editing. I'd prefer not do that if other options are available.

It does seem like a problem we'll need to address in a more formal way
as TiddlySpace grows.

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[tw] Re: URGENT: Who owns raemes and console.tiddlyspace.com

2011-07-10 Thread PMario
bump,
sry, but it is important for me.
-m

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