[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

[Jed Carty]

The wsserver command should ignore the command line arguments. The 
parameters are taken from the settings.json file in the settings folder. It 
sounds like the web socket connection isn't making it outside the 
container. It sounds like the websocket connection is only going one way, I 
am not sure if the docker container could cause something like that.

If you can see the terminal output it should list the ports being used so 
you can make sure the ports are what you are expecting.

One possible cause may be that the way that the server determines the 
correct ip address to use for the websocket connection may not work from 
inside the container.

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[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

Ah!  You are right.  It *is* just the Recent tab that's missing them.

It is curious that it occurs only when running in a Docker container.  If 
you're not familiar with Docker and 'containers':

   - I'm running the TW node server in a lightweight VM.
   - The VM's network is isolated from the host, where I'm running the 
   browser, except for ports I designate as pass-through.
   - The VM's file system is isolated from the host's file system, except 
   where I permit otherwise.

If nothing else, just pretend I have a firewall which permits only traffic 
between the server and the browser on the ports I specify, and never on IP 
127.0.0.1.

I'm running TW with the following command line:

   - /usr/local/bin/node ./tiddlywiki.js editions/MultiUserWiki  --wsserver 
   8080 ${USERNAME:-user} ${PASSWORD:-'wiki'} 0.0.0.0
   
It is necessary to bind to IP 0.0.0.0 (all IP) because binding to 127.0.0.1 
in the VM is available only within the VM, so I need it to bind to the vNIC 
that connects to the host network.

When I run a browser from another machine, I get similar (but not 
identical) behavior, when Docker is not involved.  Adding a tiddler from 
another machine's browser gets no reference added to Recents, but it does 
show up after a page refresh.

If I had to guess, I'd guess there is something in the plugin which assumes 
127.0.0.1 can be used to connect.

Thanks for your help and thanks for the plugin.  Really nice piece of work.

On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Check the 'all' tab, the tiddlers may be created and not listed under 
> 'recent'. There is probably a bug left over from an old way of saving 
> tiddlers I used where the creation fields aren't added to a tiddler if all 
> fields except title are empty when it is made. The solution is for me to 
> use the normal render command to save the tiddlers but I haven't gotten 
> around to it because from what I can tell this is the only problem caused 
> by it.
>

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[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

[Jed Carty]

Check the 'all' tab, the tiddlers may be created and not listed under 
'recent'. There is probably a bug left over from an old way of saving 
tiddlers I used where the creation fields aren't added to a tiddler if all 
fields except title are empty when it is made. The solution is for me to 
use the normal render command to save the tiddlers but I haven't gotten 
around to it because from what I can tell this is the only problem caused 
by it.

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[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

[Kevin Kleinfelter]

Hmmm... Ironically, it appears that sometimes changes aren't fully saved 
for me.

I'm running with node.js inside a Docker container.  I exposed ports 8080 
and 8081.  When I save a title-only tiddler (i.e. click the new-tiddler 
button and immediately save the new tiddler without entering a body):

   - The logger says the file was saved.
   - The file really is saved in the file system.
   - The tiddler does not show up in the Recents list.
   - After reloading the page, the tiddler does not exist.

This behavior only happens when running in a container with the plugin.  It 
looks like it either uses an additional port (maybe briefly) or there's 
something not passing through the exposed ports.  I confirmed that there is 
no issue when running the same version of TW in the same container, without 
the plugin.

I can go to the wiki data folder in file system and execute "touch *" and 
all missing tiddlers immediately show up in the browser.

Any ideas for debugging?


On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 9:11:27 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> That message has no meaningful interaction between that message and what 
> needs to be saved by the plugin so turning it off isn't going to cause 
> problems.
>

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[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

[Jed Carty]

That message has no meaningful interaction between that message and what 
needs to be saved by the plugin so turning it off isn't going to cause 
problems.

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[tw] Re: Unsaved Changes Warning With MultiUser Plugin

[TonyM]

Kevin,

I get this too, but now I rely on the Save Icon to no longer be red, to 
confirm save.

But it is a little disconcerting.

Regards
Tony 

On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 10:28:16 PM UTC+10, Kevin Kleinfelter wrote:
>
> When using the wonderful MultiUser Plugin, after adding new tiddlers and 
> letting them complete the auto-save, I get the unsaved-edits warning when 
> navigating away from the page.  This happens whether I use the 
> single-executable or the manually-installed plugin.  It doesn't happen with 
> a generic TW5.
>
> Jeremy explained a method to suppress the message 
>  
> entirely.  I'm reluctant to do that because I do want to be notified if 
> auto-save somehow failed, and I need to manually save changes.
>
> Is there a way to get the unsaved-edits message to show up with the 
> MultiUser plugin, only when there are *unsaved* changes?
>
> Thanks!
> ==
> Relevant browser messages:
> Safari: Are you sure you want to leave this page?
> Firefox: This page is asking you to confirm that you want to leave - data 
> you have entered may not be saved.
> Chrome: Do You Want to Leave This Site? Changes you made may not be saved.
>
>

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