[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-12-02 Thread Evolena
 Underscore (this one is proposed on Adopt a Titles Policy, or any other 
character that suits you), is in my opinion good for personal use, because 
you may want to easily find your own system tiddlers at the top of the list.

What I tried to say is that $:/tb/ui/MoreSideBar/Stories (so without the 
underscore nor the plugins, only the publisher info) may be good for 
system tiddlers that you propose to drag and drop to other users.

I agree that some best practices for these different cases may be useful 
:)

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Re: [tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-12-01 Thread Tobias Beer


 love the new icons in TB5, especially the TiddlyCat for the core


Thx, I also like those visual tidbits :)

Might be more in the future with font-awesom, although surely trying to 
avoid overload. But for the solution tags they'd sure be nice.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-12-01 Thread Evolena
Really interesting work (saving stories from Metabele and TB5 from Tobias).

I should search for a dedicated TB5 post, but I have a remark: you 
shouldn't prefix non-core system tiddler with $:/core/ui/foo (now that I've 
understand what this foo word is, I can use it instead of ... or xxx 
:-P ), it is confusing about the source of the tiddler. I usually use 
$:/_ui/foo for my personal wikis, but here you could do something similar 
as what is recommended for plugins and replace core with publisher.

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Re: [tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-12-01 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Evolena,
 

 I should search for a dedicated TB5 post, but I have a remark: you 
 shouldn't prefix non-core system tiddler with $:/core/ui/foo (now that I've 
 understand what this foo word is, I can use it instead of ... or xxx 
 :-P ), it is confusing about the source of the tiddler. I usually use 
 $:/_ui/foo for my personal wikis, but here you could do something similar 
 as what is recommended for plugins and replace core with publisher.


I understand, and it's sure just as much a learning process for me. ^^

I do sympathize with the underscore approach, although it looks hacky. Not 
only does it put the user generated stuff up top, but it also makes sure 
we're never mingling with what could at some point be core stuff. So, I 
guess I will waddle through all that and update my 
under-the-hood-component names accordingly.

But, before I do that, I think it would be wise to actually specify on 
TiddlyWiki.com, how users are to best put stuff under *$:/*, because we 
sure can and so we will, and also we should... but with a meaningful 
approach.

I guess it might even be necessary to use namespacing, eg. a rudinmentary 
*$:/_tb/foo*, e.g. *$:/_tb/ui/foo*, *$:/_tb/templates/foo*.

Other approaches might be...
*$://tb/* — will probably conflict with italics as there is no external 
link vodoo for system links
*$:/.tb/* — my eye prefers this over...
*$:/_tb/* — the user-system-hack

I definitely prefer this over having things scattered like...

*$:/plugins/tobibeer/foo/bar/baz*

Although, I will sure respect that pattern for actual plugins, but the 
solutions I just use in my wiki or even suggest others to use. If, at some 
point, there are clashes, well... then we'd surely need more than mere 
naming conventions but also component-meta-data to distinguish component 
origins, for one.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Birthe C
Hi Alex
Did you see http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com tab Stories?


Birthe


On Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:13:40 AM UTC+1, AlexHough wrote:

 I have some tiddlers open, they reflect a state of play in my thinking. 
 I'd like to store this easily and quickly.

 I could cut and paste each title into default tiddlers - but that could 
 take to long for me to stay in flow

 Experience in TiddlyLand has taught me not to jump to solutions when 
 framing a problem. But some ideas spring to mind

 1) a button to add all open tiddlers to a new tiddler. Clone View or 
 Clone River into kind of table of contents tiddler tagged with snapshot 
 or something like that
 2) tagg all open tidlers with the same tag - order might not be preserved
 3) make a list out of current view, cut and paste into tiddler from 'Open' 
 - requires some editing of new tiddler

 Alex


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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Mat
Just a note: I will soon present a concept that deals with exactly this 
problem as well as at least one other IMO very important problem with the 
current behaviour of TW. Look out for a (future) post titled something with 
Story view.

:-)


On Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:13:40 AM UTC+1, AlexHough wrote:

 I have some tiddlers open, they reflect a state of play in my thinking. 
 I'd like to store this easily and quickly.

 I could cut and paste each title into default tiddlers - but that could 
 take to long for me to stay in flow

 Experience in TiddlyLand has taught me not to jump to solutions when 
 framing a problem. But some ideas spring to mind

 1) a button to add all open tiddlers to a new tiddler. Clone View or 
 Clone River into kind of table of contents tiddler tagged with snapshot 
 or something like that
 2) tagg all open tidlers with the same tag - order might not be preserved
 3) make a list out of current view, cut and paste into tiddler from 'Open' 
 - requires some editing of new tiddler

 Alex


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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Tobias Beer


 Did you see http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com tab Stories?


Where's that and what's a 'tab'?

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Birthe C
Hi Tobias
Sorry! I will avoid mentioning any sidebar tabs then.
Hope this link works. http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/#Stories:Stories

Birthe


On Sunday, November 30, 2014 5:29:03 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Did you see http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com tab Stories?


 Where's that and what's a 'tab'?

 Best wishes, Tobias. 


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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
Tabs? Like in tabbing -- a way of displaying tiddlers inside of tabs 
similar to your browser. See TabsMacro at tiddlywiki.com.

I'm guessing he has a neat way of turning your current story into tabs.

But I have a problem with Will's site -- no matter how small I shrink the 
screen, I can't get to the search bar on the right (assuming there is one). 
The search bar keep moving off to the right. 

The TOC doesn't reference Tabbing Stories, and I can't get to the search 
bar, so if anyone has an actual link to tabbing stories it would be 
helpful

Mark

On Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:29:03 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Did you see http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com tab Stories?


 Where's that and what's a 'tab'?

 Best wishes, Tobias. 


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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Tobias Beer


 Sorry! I will avoid mentioning any sidebar tabs then.
 Hope this link works. http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/#Stories:Stories


All is good, it was just too easy to overlook that chevron and to hard to 
just think sidebar. o.O

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Birthe,
 

 Hope this link works. http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com/#Stories 
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fgwiz.tiddlyspot.com%2F%23Stories%3AStoriessa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGjMg6dJNsTxqm51tbM_ojqgPZlFQ


Wow, this looks incredibly easy!
Will take a closer look and make a little tutorial of it.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Mark,

On Sunday, November 30, 2014 7:38:11 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Tabs? Like in tabbing -- a way of displaying tiddlers inside of tabs 
 similar to your browser. See TabsMacro at tiddlywiki.com.

 I'm guessing he has a neat way of turning your current story into tabs.

 But I have a problem with Will's site -- no matter how small I shrink the 
 screen, I can't get to the search bar on the right (assuming there is one). 
 The search bar keep moving off to the right. 


There is no normal search box. Try the search tab instead.

Cheers,

Ton


 The TOC doesn't reference Tabbing Stories, and I can't get to the search 
 bar, so if anyone has an actual link to tabbing stories it would be 
 helpful

 Mark

 On Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:29:03 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Did you see http://gwiz.tiddlyspot.com tab Stories?


 Where's that and what's a 'tab'?

 Best wishes, Tobias. 



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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
That does look neat. The 3rd part (with tags) wants the makelist widget. 
When I try to drag/drop the plugin, I get one of those This is 
embarrassing messages with error  el.className is undefined.

If I try to define my own plugin, when I select application/json I get a 
tiddler with the message Undefined widget 'edit-json ' I'm on v 5.1.2. 
Looking at version 5.1.5,, I see that the editor is generated, but not the 
3 fields (description, type, etc) I would also expect.

I guess the first two parts are more important anyways. Looks very handy.

Mark


On Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:13:40 PM UTC-8, AlexHough wrote:

 I have some tiddlers open, they reflect a state of play in my thinking. 
 I'd like to store this easily and quickly.

 I could cut and paste each title into default tiddlers - but that could 
 take to long for me to stay in flow

 Experience in TiddlyLand has taught me not to jump to solutions when 
 framing a problem. But some ideas spring to mind

 1) a button to add all open tiddlers to a new tiddler. Clone View or 
 Clone River into kind of table of contents tiddler tagged with snapshot 
 or something like that
 2) tagg all open tidlers with the same tag - order might not be preserved
 3) make a list out of current view, cut and paste into tiddler from 'Open' 
 - requires some editing of new tiddler

 Alex


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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Tobias Beer


 Will take a closer look and make a little tutorial of it.


Thanks again for the pointers on saving and loading stories, Birthe...

Saving And Loading A History Snapshot @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Birthe C
Hi Tobias
I am impressed you have already done it. It is working very well. It will 
be a great help for me working on my own TW. Thank you.


Birthe


On Sunday, November 30, 2014 11:31:32 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Will take a closer look and make a little tutorial of it.


 Thanks again for the pointers on saving and loading stories, Birthe...

 Saving And Loading A History Snapshot @ tb5 
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot

 Best wishes, Tobias. 


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Re: [tw] Re: Workflow: save current set of tiddlers?

2014-11-30 Thread Alex Hough
Tobias,

I second Birthe - very helpful, thank you

love the new icons in TB5, especially the TiddlyCat for the core

Alex

On 30 November 2014 at 23:41, Birthe C strikkeglad...@googlemail.com
wrote:

 Hi Tobias
 I am impressed you have already done it. It is working very well. It will
 be a great help for me working on my own TW. Thank you.


 Birthe



 On Sunday, November 30, 2014 11:31:32 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Will take a closer look and make a little tutorial of it.


 Thanks again for the pointers on saving and loading stories, Birthe...

 Saving And Loading A History Snapshot @ tb5
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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