Re: [tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-23 Thread Handoko Suwono
In question of notability.

I can't accept the statement that TW is not a notable management
software. It's like mentioning that TW is not existing. Anything that
happened should exist and mentioned in Wikipedia.

On another wikipedia submission, I was flagged about a source camp
that did exist, however not much mentioned by third party sources
other than the organizers. So it's the same meaning as not notable
event but it did exist. There is some discussion list about this
arguing the fairness of those people who run Wikipedia and criteria
based on sorting out articles.

So other sources citation should not come from associated TW
developers or even this list but another, I don't know:(

How much notability is required?

Handoko -



Julian Knight wrote:
 Maybe it's use in BT could be highlighted. I'm sure there must be some
 references.

 Perhaps we could all start adding to a references section at the end of the
 article - or maybe in the comments page for now so that things can be kept
 tidy?

 We should also link back to the TW Google groups and to related software
 such as the TWMobile/TWEdit iOS apps.

 I'll take a look as well and see if there is anything that I can add or
 tidy.

 Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Paul Downey (psd)
I added a comment on the activity of development and this group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki

which seems to have triggered the result Keep from an admin, and
removal of the banner:


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWikiaction=history

I'll put some effort into restructuring the page as suggested, and
flag back here, but it would be helpful if others could also edit and
improve the page, adding whatever citations they can find.

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Re: [tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Alex Hough
A while ago -- if i remember right -- there were some researchers from a
French University looking for TiddlyWiki user stories. (Where they from
INSEAD?) . Does anyone know if they published anything, or are planning to?

In my experience, a academic refs please the Wikipedians.

Alex

On 20 January 2011 12:04, Paul Downey (psd) paul.s.dow...@gmail.com wrote:

 I added a comment on the activity of development and this group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki

 which seems to have triggered the result Keep from an admin, and
 removal of the banner:


 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWikiaction=history

 I'll put some effort into restructuring the page as suggested, and
 flag back here, but it would be helpful if others could also edit and
 improve the page, adding whatever citations they can find.

 --
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 http://blog.whatfettle.com

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Re: [tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-20 Thread Julian Knight
Maybe it's use in BT could be highlighted. I'm sure there must be some 
references.

Perhaps we could all start adding to a references section at the end of the 
article - or maybe in the comments page for now so that things can be kept 
tidy?

We should also link back to the TW Google groups and to related software 
such as the TWMobile/TWEdit iOS apps.

I'll take a look as well and see if there is anything that I can add or 
tidy.

Regards, Julian.

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[tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-19 Thread TonyM
Anyone an active Wikipedia contributor.

I would jump in except the problems appears to be it is not high quality 
post. Since I see no problem with it, it needs someone with experience

This is important for our profile.

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[tw] Re: wikipedia is planning to delete tiddlywiki article?

2011-01-19 Thread passingby
The reason for marking for deletion is here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TiddlyWiki
The reason cited is : Non notable management software. No reliable
sources provided, none found besides download links and promo
material.

I do not know what kind of sources wikipedia needs in software cases,
but I can see a problem with the article structure. There is no
breakup of article into sections like introduction, development and
ending. Here is a list of sections which might be considered.

# Philosophy of TW
# Features
# Special mention of Tags
# Plugins
# Adaptations
# Tiddlyspot and Tiddlyspace
# History
# VariousTranslations
# Technical info like security issues
# Use cases
# Comparison with other similar software solutions?

What do you guys think? All this can be done,but what about the
objection regarding 'sources'. What source can we provide besides
direct knowledge had from first hand experience? Isn't first hand
experience the best form of knowledge source? Can this be somehow
cited in wikipedia articles? Can this google group be cited as a
source?

On Jan 20, 7:25 am, TonyM anthony.mus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone an active Wikipedia contributor.

 I would jump in except the problems appears to be it is not high quality
 post. Since I see no problem with it, it needs someone with experience

 This is important for our profile.

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