Re: [tw] The Art Of Dolly, The TW Canvas, And Her CSS

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Alex

Exactly IT.

Constraint in landscape.

J x 

On Tuesday, 14 November 2017 16:19:31 UTC+1, AlexHough wrote:
>
> Thanks Josiah,
>
> I was thinking about a sculpture at Yorkshire sculpture park by Julian 
> Opie of a horse running 
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0le-E2wZ-c
>
> Opie had the idea from seeing a small LED toy in a taxi
>
> Alex
>

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Re: [tw] The Art Of Dolly, The TW Canvas, And Her CSS

[Alex Hough]

Thanks Josiah,

I was thinking about a sculpture at Yorkshire sculpture park by Julian Opie
of a horse running

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0le-E2wZ-c

Opie had the idea from seeing a small LED toy in a taxi

Alex

On 12 November 2017 at 16:47, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Alex Hough, via Twitter, announced a very impressive TW "Postcard" ...
> https://alexhough.github.io/post-card-teggs-nose-joy-division.html
>
> I was very struck by how very good it is as an ART achievement.
>
> Restricting the "canvas" to just showing a "postcard" is also an excellent
> example use of TW static render.
>
> _ART & CANVAS_
>
> One of the central issues in visual art-making is "what is the canvas?"
> Another way of saying "what are the constraints?" Its pretty important. Art
> never really emerges without a "fitting" of some kind or another into
> something that is usually, at the end, highly constrained.
>
> Often its thought that good art comes from open-ended enquiry. That is
> true only to an extent. The stubborn nature of matter matters too. Tight
> constraint hones forming. Get the relevant constraints clearer and you are
> halfway there.
>
> Traditionally in painting you'd need master both the handling of brush and
> paint and paper/canvas AND the conception of the "WORK" -- often a series
> of paintings: a directed landing of brush on surfaces with boundaries.
>
> Part of the issue on the web is HOW to get to the point of enough mastery
> of its "brushes" (codings) to find free expressive flow to achieve similar.
>
> TiddlyWiki is interesting to re-think as a visual art-environment. Its
> "paint-brush rich" in that there are several types of "coding brush"
> immediately accessible.
>
> I thought what Alex did very suggestive of how artists might use TW better
> to more fruitfully explore their liminals.
>
> _"POSTCARD" CONSTRAINT _
>
> Very interesting is the obvious sense of "freedom" in Alex's image whilst
> its simultaneously bounded in a very tight minimalist framing. That is
> unusual. Usually you'd see such a blob  as an "orphan page". Not this. Its
> already complete. In that sense it IS somewhat like a physical painting in
> the way one receives it. A repletion of meaning.
>
> It illustrates that presentation and content are strongly inter-related.
> In this case the minimalism is well suited to bring fore the uumph.
>
> _MY INTEREST_
>
> I'm very interested in all this. I strongly believe that some art-centric
> work can really help TW visualise what it can do. The thing about artists
> is, in the end, they are mostly concerned with expression of content.
> Coders tend to see code itself as their "art-form" and discussion tends to
> focus on that as the "content". Visual artists tend to see technique/coding
> as a means to an expressive end ... i.e. just process steps that sub-serve.
> Of course its not so simply divided like that. But there is some truth in
> it and appreciation of ends is good too--especially when they excite you.
>
> Just thoughts
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>
>
>
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[tw] The Art Of Dolly, The TW Canvas, And Her CSS

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Alex Hough, via Twitter, announced a very impressive TW "Postcard" ... 
https://alexhough.github.io/post-card-teggs-nose-joy-division.html

I was very struck by how very good it is as an ART achievement.

Restricting the "canvas" to just showing a "postcard" is also an excellent 
example use of TW static render.

_ART & CANVAS_

One of the central issues in visual art-making is "what is the canvas?" 
Another way of saying "what are the constraints?" Its pretty important. Art 
never really emerges without a "fitting" of some kind or another into 
something that is usually, at the end, highly constrained.

Often its thought that good art comes from open-ended enquiry. That is true 
only to an extent. The stubborn nature of matter matters too. Tight 
constraint hones forming. Get the relevant constraints clearer and you are 
halfway there.

Traditionally in painting you'd need master both the handling of brush and 
paint and paper/canvas AND the conception of the "WORK" -- often a series 
of paintings: a directed landing of brush on surfaces with boundaries. 

Part of the issue on the web is HOW to get to the point of enough mastery 
of its "brushes" (codings) to find free expressive flow to achieve similar.

TiddlyWiki is interesting to re-think as a visual art-environment. Its 
"paint-brush rich" in that there are several types of "coding brush" 
immediately accessible.  

I thought what Alex did very suggestive of how artists might use TW better 
to more fruitfully explore their liminals.

_"POSTCARD" CONSTRAINT _

Very interesting is the obvious sense of "freedom" in Alex's image whilst 
its simultaneously bounded in a very tight minimalist framing. That is 
unusual. Usually you'd see such a blob  as an "orphan page". Not this. Its 
already complete. In that sense it IS somewhat like a physical painting in 
the way one receives it. A repletion of meaning.

It illustrates that presentation and content are strongly inter-related. In 
this case the minimalism is well suited to bring fore the uumph.

_MY INTEREST_

I'm very interested in all this. I strongly believe that some art-centric 
work can really help TW visualise what it can do. The thing about artists 
is, in the end, they are mostly concerned with expression of content. 
Coders tend to see code itself as their "art-form" and discussion tends to 
focus on that as the "content". Visual artists tend to see technique/coding 
as a means to an expressive end ... i.e. just process steps that sub-serve. 
Of course its not so simply divided like that. But there is some truth in 
it and appreciation of ends is good too--especially when they excite you.

Just thoughts
Best wishes
Josiah
  




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