Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Dear Brian, Thanks Heaps! I think this will be really handy for me, and I really appreciate your time. Kind regards Steve H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/246f3a1e-5180-4cb5-8e80-ef7d6435b184%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Very interesting plugin, Brian! I added this to the TiddlyWiki toolmap, under the tagging section, the task management to do list section, and the writing and editing tiddler creation section. https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM Blessings Dave On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 9:15:20 AM UTC-6, Brian Theado wrote: > > The `ftlist` plugin provides a way to quickly create `f`ragments of > `t`ext and manage them as items in a `list`. The emphasis is on > providing a low-friction way to capture thoughts and ideas. > > The list items are stored as tiddler titles and can be used just like > any other TiddlyWiki tiddlers. > > In addition to some minimal list operations, ftlist provides a > `tagbar` for easily applying tags to the list items via drag and drop. > New tags can be added to the `tagbar` via drag and drop and then list > items (any tiddly links) can be dropped onto these tags in order to > apply them. > > If you want a way to quickly create new tiddlers and optionally > organize them later, then you might find this plugin useful. > > https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/ - demo > https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist - source code > > Brian > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0945e6b0-4441-472d-a728-e3d2c59cf90a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Steve, On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 6:28 PM SteveH wrote: > This will sound a little couter-intuitive ,but would you consider an option > to send new items to the bottom of the list as they're added? This approach > is in line with Mark Forster's approach. The code already adds items to the end of the list (in order to stay consistent with how TW tagging works. However, I display them in reverse order so the new items come at the top as per my preference. I refactored some of the code and then wrote a smallish version which does not reverse the list. See the demo at https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/#reverse%20ftlist%20demo. To use it in your own wiki, drag both the plugin and the https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/#reverse%20ftlist tiddler over. This isn't as good as a configurable option, but at least it will let you play with it. I'm not sure that will be enough to use it for autofocus since grouping by pages is an important feature you would be missing. Marking ftlist items done removes the tag, so I'm not sure how you would track the item count for each page. [...] > http://markforster.squarespace.com/autofocus-system/ Mark Forster's website is a goldmine of algorithms for processing todo lists. I'm quite familiar with it. I have made use of many of them in various outliner and other note-taking software (including TW for several of them) over the years. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8Cz0uUBc498QbLsS7fqX93s3n9EpjMOX%3DSdjiiX6VFRbRg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Hi Brian, This will sound a little couter-intuitive ,but would you consider an option to send new items to the bottom of the list as they're added? This approach is in line with Mark Forster's approach. ie " The system consists of one long list of everything that you have to do, written in a ruled notebook (25-35 lines to a page ideal). As you think of new items, add them to the end of the list. You work through the list one page at a time in the following manner: 1. Read quickly through all the items on the page without taking action on any of them. 2. Go through the page more slowly looking at the items in order until one stands out for you. 3. Work on that item for as long as you feel like doing so 4. Cross the item off the list, and re-enter it at the end of the list if you haven’t finished it 5. Continue going round the same page in the same way. Don’t move onto the next page until you complete a pass of the page without any item standing out" http://markforster.squarespace.com/autofocus-system/ Regards Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7120d8c1-b8fd-4a36-b0e9-b5650e38dfe9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
I have updated the plugin. Now instead of opening sublists in a new, temporarily tiddler, the sublist is expanded inline. This gives more of a "nested list" feel to it. I also refactored the templates. Now the list can be used without the tagbar and vice versa. Details at the following links: https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/ - demo https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist - source code -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8Cyxu48YLRfEtOXCnujZ5NvrhY9D-jgT42d4ssTHP2JQjw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Steve, On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:08 AM SteveH wrote: > Thanks for the plugin; - giving it a test run. Is there a way to rearrange > the list of tiddlers (apart from sending one to the top)? Originally, I used the list-tagged-draggable core macro to make the list drag and drop. However, after I added the tagbar functionality, I found it distracting to see the DnD visual feedback (the dashed green box appearing and disappearing) when I drag the tiddler link up to the tagbar. For my uses I don't need an exact order and I find it is enough to be able to bump an item to the top when is sinking too low in the list due to too many new items. So I removed it. The items in the list are determined by a particular tag (i.e. whichever tiddler you transcluded the ftlist tiddler into is the tag). So you can create a tag pill somewhere for that tag. When you click on the tag pill, all the tiddlers are listed. Drag and drop is supported in that list, so you could re-order them there. FWIW, here is the code change where I removed the drag and drop: https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist/commit/a5268e10312d754b7a904352128d19cf91207191#diff-de478613f63e0b90dd45737237459006 Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8CyznsfNuUytP6QytTMTqM4zNd7YjTeHFbgq4vQ5KW%2ByjA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Ciao Brian Yeah, I was pulling your leg :-) I actually find the approach very interesting. I think it could be applied beyond "todo" lists. And the "Bilbo" examples work well & are fun. Best wishes Josiah On Wednesday, 21 November 2018 05:39:59 UTC+1, Brian Theado wrote: > > Ha! I'm pretty sure you are kidding :-). No gaming here. I use it as a > todo list and was having trouble of thinking of examples. I recall > seeing todo examples in TiddlyMap which looked like they were from > Lord of the Rings and I thought I'd go that route also :-). > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5f7a2579-c282-4e4d-8bea-2190bd959e7c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Dear Brian, Thanks for the plugin; - giving it a test run. Is there a way to rearrange the list of tiddlers (apart from sending one to the top)? Regards Steve H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d8842fff-b851-429d-b7fe-8bee32f2c01b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Josiah, On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 1:21 PM @TiddlyTweeter wrote: > Dear Bilbo Theado > That looks very interesting TW leverage for gaming! :-) Ha! I'm pretty sure you are kidding :-). No gaming here. I use it as a todo list and was having trouble of thinking of examples. I recall seeing todo examples in TiddlyMap which looked like they were from Lord of the Rings and I thought I'd go that route also :-). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8CwmxbA4hRHpC5q4HercHgni1QM%2BMFWP3bBqC1HoCaEH0g%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Tony, On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 5:03 PM TonyM wrote: > I can see you have put effort into the documentation and explaining it. Thanks. I did and was still worried it wasn't clear enough. > It has taken me a little effort to grasp the value of this and I think it is > great. I'm glad you were able to figure it out. I'll probably continue working on it in the coming weeks. Hopefully I can find ways to reduce the effort on the part of the reader. Thanks for making the effort > Perhaps you could describe one or more ways we would use it in your > documentation, not the mechanical steps but the general approach. I'll keep that in mind as I work on it. > I see great value in using it to rapidly create items, it would interest me > if I could provide a template tiddler from which to create the new tiddlers > in addition to the tagging ftlist does for us. Do you mean the user provides a tiddler name and each time a new list item is created, instead of only setting the title and adding the tag, it would also copy all the fields from that template tiddler? IOW: 1) "clone" the template tidder; 2) Apply the tag; and 3) set the title to what the user entered in the edit box. That's an interesting idea. Thanks for the feedback. Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8Czi3%2BmvypQi3uEqkxp3%3D0%3DH3%2BS_otYg2m5TORHvVVnGhw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Brian, Thanks very much for sharing this with the community. I can see you have put effort into the documentation and explaining it. It has taken me a little effort to grasp the value of this and I think it is great. Perhaps you could describe one or more ways we would use it in your documentation, not the mechanical steps but the general approach. I see great value in using it to rapidly create items, it would interest me if I could provide a template tiddler from which to create the new tiddlers in addition to the tagging ftlist does for us. Great work Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dc5643fe-7533-4cf0-8e46-39ee907f8fc7%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
Dear Bilbo Theado That looks very interesting TW leverage for gaming! :-) Best wishes Josiah On Tuesday, 20 November 2018 16:15:20 UTC+1, Brian Theado wrote: > > The `ftlist` plugin provides a way to quickly create `f`ragments of > `t`ext and manage them as items in a `list`. The emphasis is on > providing a low-friction way to capture thoughts and ideas. > > The list items are stored as tiddler titles and can be used just like > any other TiddlyWiki tiddlers. > > In addition to some minimal list operations, ftlist provides a > `tagbar` for easily applying tags to the list items via drag and drop. > New tags can be added to the `tagbar` via drag and drop and then list > items (any tiddly links) can be dropped onto these tags in order to > apply them. > > If you want a way to quickly create new tiddlers and optionally > organize them later, then you might find this plugin useful. > > https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/ - demo > https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist - source code > > Brian > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/2869ee06-f1c9-4468-b8c5-1ad0f20bd3e6%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] ANN: ftlist plugin - capture and organize quick notes
The `ftlist` plugin provides a way to quickly create `f`ragments of `t`ext and manage them as items in a `list`. The emphasis is on providing a low-friction way to capture thoughts and ideas. The list items are stored as tiddler titles and can be used just like any other TiddlyWiki tiddlers. In addition to some minimal list operations, ftlist provides a `tagbar` for easily applying tags to the list items via drag and drop. New tags can be added to the `tagbar` via drag and drop and then list items (any tiddly links) can be dropped onto these tags in order to apply them. If you want a way to quickly create new tiddlers and optionally organize them later, then you might find this plugin useful. https://btheado.github.io/tw-ftlist/ - demo https://github.com/btheado/tw-ftlist - source code Brian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAO5X8Cwe--T001E5jvkaEs4o1AaA4r86PtzOJgUxUcosqPDLDA%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
