Re: [tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[danraymond]

Jd;

How close are you to the revised full screen editor? Getting very excited. 
Have played with the work in progress, like it very much!

On Sunday, August 2, 2020 at 12:02:14 AM UTC+10, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> @JD no worries. Very happy to see you exploring alternative UX ideas for a 
> much ignored aspect of TW (the edit template).
>
> In case you haven't seen it, some UI fiddling of mine here that might 
> inspire some ideas:
>
>- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/lQ1N1t-0Gtw/zkNjApAcCAAJ
>- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1oFNPGtQj3c/o6shvzg-AgAJ
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:39:50 PM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Saq! 
>>
>> Thank you, those are really important ideas!
>>
>> After a while using, I did become annoyed at the toggles and how they 
>> didn't achieve the kind of simplicity in interaction and looks as I was 
>> hoping for. 
>>
>> I am also going to return the editButtons up top, because with a narrower 
>> frame, they cause the editor toolbar buttons to bunch together and make it 
>> all feel unbalanced.
>>
>> Also, yeah I realized while using it that the titlebar is acting 
>> strangely! I'll have to find a better method for the effect I want.
>>
>> Thanks for those valuable thoughts! 
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 17:10 Saq Imtiaz,  wrote:
>>
>>> @JD some more feedback:
>>>
>>>- aesthetically I understand the design of the toggle bars (buttons) 
>>>for the editor segements. However, they need greater affordance as to 
>>> the 
>>>functionality provided there, it isn't intuitive enough and make this 
>>>unsuitable for use in a wiki meant to be used by people unfamiliar with 
>>>this editor. A small arrow/chevron icon or similar would help.
>>>- the toggle bars are also too thin to tap reliably on mobile, 
>>>especially if you have the title and the toolbar collapsed.
>>>- the experience of typing a tiddler title is very jarring as the 
>>>input doesn't resize until after you finish typing, so you end up typing 
>>>blind.
>>>- the tiddler toolbar buttons need to be better differentiated from 
>>>the editor toolbar buttons. Something subtle like a different background 
>>>color or different icon styling would do the trick.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:12:25 AM UTC+2, JD wrote:

 Hi Tony! Thank you for appreciating the looks! This is really how I'd 
 want the editor toolbar to be styled.

 I'll definitely add those configurables, thanks for the suggestion!

 -jd

 On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:13:49 AM UTC+9, TW Tones wrote:
>
> JD,
>
> Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,
>
> This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be
>
>- Can we use code mirror in the editor?
>- The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be 
>a nice feature
>   - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something 
>   like [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]
>
> Very-nice.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, 
>>
>> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
>> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>>
>> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, 
>> consider it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one 
>> that 
>> uses TW5.1.22's features..
>>
>> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested 
>> to try it here: 
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> (I have more notes about its development there)
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Legecy has moved here:
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[Saq Imtiaz]

@JD no worries. Very happy to see you exploring alternative UX ideas for a 
much ignored aspect of TW (the edit template).

In case you haven't seen it, some UI fiddling of mine here that might 
inspire some ideas:

   - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/lQ1N1t-0Gtw/zkNjApAcCAAJ
   - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1oFNPGtQj3c/o6shvzg-AgAJ
   
Cheers,
Saq

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:39:50 PM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Saq! 
>
> Thank you, those are really important ideas!
>
> After a while using, I did become annoyed at the toggles and how they 
> didn't achieve the kind of simplicity in interaction and looks as I was 
> hoping for. 
>
> I am also going to return the editButtons up top, because with a narrower 
> frame, they cause the editor toolbar buttons to bunch together and make it 
> all feel unbalanced.
>
> Also, yeah I realized while using it that the titlebar is acting 
> strangely! I'll have to find a better method for the effect I want.
>
> Thanks for those valuable thoughts! 
>
> -jd
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 17:10 Saq Imtiaz, > 
> wrote:
>
>> @JD some more feedback:
>>
>>- aesthetically I understand the design of the toggle bars (buttons) 
>>for the editor segements. However, they need greater affordance as to the 
>>functionality provided there, it isn't intuitive enough and make this 
>>unsuitable for use in a wiki meant to be used by people unfamiliar with 
>>this editor. A small arrow/chevron icon or similar would help.
>>- the toggle bars are also too thin to tap reliably on mobile, 
>>especially if you have the title and the toolbar collapsed.
>>- the experience of typing a tiddler title is very jarring as the 
>>input doesn't resize until after you finish typing, so you end up typing 
>>blind.
>>- the tiddler toolbar buttons need to be better differentiated from 
>>the editor toolbar buttons. Something subtle like a different background 
>>color or different icon styling would do the trick.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:12:25 AM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony! Thank you for appreciating the looks! This is really how I'd 
>>> want the editor toolbar to be styled.
>>>
>>> I'll definitely add those configurables, thanks for the suggestion!
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:13:49 AM UTC+9, TW Tones wrote:

 JD,

 Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,

 This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be

- Can we use code mirror in the editor?
- The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be a 
nice feature
   - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something 
   like [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]

 Very-nice.

 Regards
 Tony

 On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>
> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, 
> consider it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one 
> that 
> uses TW5.1.22's features..
>
> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to 
> try it here: 
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> (I have more notes about its development there)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> -jd
>
> ---
>
> Legecy has moved here:
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[E Browns]

Hi Saq!

Thank you, those are really important ideas!

After a while using, I did become annoyed at the toggles and how they
didn't achieve the kind of simplicity in interaction and looks as I was
hoping for.

I am also going to return the editButtons up top, because with a narrower
frame, they cause the editor toolbar buttons to bunch together and make it
all feel unbalanced.

Also, yeah I realized while using it that the titlebar is acting strangely!
I'll have to find a better method for the effect I want.

Thanks for those valuable thoughts!

-jd



On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, 17:10 Saq Imtiaz,  wrote:

> @JD some more feedback:
>
>- aesthetically I understand the design of the toggle bars (buttons)
>for the editor segements. However, they need greater affordance as to the
>functionality provided there, it isn't intuitive enough and make this
>unsuitable for use in a wiki meant to be used by people unfamiliar with
>this editor. A small arrow/chevron icon or similar would help.
>- the toggle bars are also too thin to tap reliably on mobile,
>especially if you have the title and the toolbar collapsed.
>- the experience of typing a tiddler title is very jarring as the
>input doesn't resize until after you finish typing, so you end up typing
>blind.
>- the tiddler toolbar buttons need to be better differentiated from
>the editor toolbar buttons. Something subtle like a different background
>color or different icon styling would do the trick.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Saq
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:12:25 AM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony! Thank you for appreciating the looks! This is really how I'd
>> want the editor toolbar to be styled.
>>
>> I'll definitely add those configurables, thanks for the suggestion!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:13:49 AM UTC+9, TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>> JD,
>>>
>>> Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,
>>>
>>> This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be
>>>
>>>- Can we use code mirror in the editor?
>>>- The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be a
>>>nice feature
>>>   - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something like
>>>   [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]
>>>
>>> Very-nice.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor
 plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!

 ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself,
 consider it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that
 uses TW5.1.22's features..

 It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to
 try it here:

 http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/

 (I have more notes about its development there)

 Thanks guys

 -jd

 ---

 Legecy has moved here:

 http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[Saq Imtiaz]

@JD some more feedback:

   - aesthetically I understand the design of the toggle bars (buttons) for 
   the editor segements. However, they need greater affordance as to the 
   functionality provided there, it isn't intuitive enough and make this 
   unsuitable for use in a wiki meant to be used by people unfamiliar with 
   this editor. A small arrow/chevron icon or similar would help.
   - the toggle bars are also too thin to tap reliably on mobile, 
   especially if you have the title and the toolbar collapsed.
   - the experience of typing a tiddler title is very jarring as the input 
   doesn't resize until after you finish typing, so you end up typing blind.
   - the tiddler toolbar buttons need to be better differentiated from the 
   editor toolbar buttons. Something subtle like a different background color 
   or different icon styling would do the trick.

Hope this helps,
Saq




On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 3:12:25 AM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Tony! Thank you for appreciating the looks! This is really how I'd want 
> the editor toolbar to be styled.
>
> I'll definitely add those configurables, thanks for the suggestion!
>
> -jd
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:13:49 AM UTC+9, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> JD,
>>
>> Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,
>>
>> This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be
>>
>>- Can we use code mirror in the editor?
>>- The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be a 
>>nice feature
>>   - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something like 
>>   [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]
>>
>> Very-nice.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, 
>>>
>>> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
>>> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>>>
>>> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, 
>>> consider it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that 
>>> uses TW5.1.22's features..
>>>
>>> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to 
>>> try it here: 
>>>
>>> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> (I have more notes about its development there)
>>>
>>> Thanks guys
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Legecy has moved here:
>>>
>>> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[JD]

Hi Tony! Thank you for appreciating the looks! This is really how I'd want 
the editor toolbar to be styled.

I'll definitely add those configurables, thanks for the suggestion!

-jd

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:13:49 AM UTC+9, TW Tones wrote:
>
> JD,
>
> Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,
>
> This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be
>
>- Can we use code mirror in the editor?
>- The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be a 
>nice feature
>   - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something like 
>   [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]
>
> Very-nice.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, 
>>
>> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
>> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>>
>> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
>> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
>> TW5.1.22's features..
>>
>> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to 
>> try it here: 
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> (I have more notes about its development there)
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Legecy has moved here:
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[JD]

Thanks TT! 

I actually remembered you using this that's why this is one of the plugins 
I'm prioritizing to update. So, thanks for the comments! Will find a way to 
add this (i have little experience with opening new windows from tw).

-jd

On Saturday, August 1, 2020 at 4:48:42 AM UTC+9, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao JD
>
> Definite improvements. And looks nicer. FYI, I used the old experimental 
> one ever since you made it. It makes sense to edit that way for anything 
> other than "shortie" tiddlers.
>
> The ONE request I have is to be able to configure it so that the behavior 
> is .. EITHER ...
>
>- Full Screen (takes over the wiki)
>
> OR
>
>- Full Screen in a NEW Tab/Window (runs parallel).
>
> The later approach would allow more flex.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:49:27 UTC+2, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, 
>>
>> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
>> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>>
>> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
>> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
>> TW5.1.22's features..
>>
>> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to 
>> try it here: 
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>> 
>>
>> (I have more notes about its development there)
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Legecy has moved here:
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao JD

Definite improvements. And looks nicer. FYI, I used the old experimental 
one ever since you made it. It makes sense to edit that way for anything 
other than "shortie" tiddlers.

The ONE request I have is to be able to configure it so that the behavior 
is .. EITHER ...

   - Full Screen (takes over the wiki)

OR

   - Full Screen in a NEW Tab/Window (runs parallel).

The later approach would allow more flex.

Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, 29 July 2020 14:49:27 UTC+2, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>
> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
> TW5.1.22's features..
>
> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to try 
> it here: 
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> 
>
> (I have more notes about its development there)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> -jd
>
> ---
>
> Legecy has moved here:
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[TW Tones]

JD,

Feedback from the +10 UTC Time Zone,

This looks even more elegant than before.  My only questions would be

   - Can we use code mirror in the editor?
   - The ability to set a display filter on the edit button would be a nice 
   feature
  - Default to all, but the designer could set it to something like 
  [!is[system]] or [object-type[note]]
   
Very-nice.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:49:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>
> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
> TW5.1.22's features..
>
> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to try 
> it here: 
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> (I have more notes about its development there)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> -jd
>
> ---
>
> Legecy has moved here:
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[JD]

Hi Mat, thanks for the feedback! 

If you mean the tag dropdown, then yeah I can see that to the right is the 
correct idea! Must have been the remnant of a previous design. 

Oh! And yep! Just the fullscreen editor and the EditTemplate ^^, I've 
vanilla-ed the work site to make it clearer what's being presented for 
commenting! Thanks! 

The plugin is actually focused on FS, with the custom edit template you see 
being the by-product of the want to toggle template segments without editting 
nor styling those of the core, nor those of other plugins. 

Glad you like the buttons placement ^^, I find that in writing long texts I 
edit the title and tags fewer times than I use the toolbar.. And that I never 
want to lose sight of delete/discard/save

Thanks again! 

-jd

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[JD]

Thanks for the recommendation, Atro! Will definitely continue develoment of FS 
editor there! I should have from the get go, with all the amazing new keyboard 
and editting additions! 

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[Mat]

JD, thanks for sharing!

Detail: IMO the down-arrow should be to the *right *of the tiddler to 
select, like in the native UI.
>
>
More importantly: Do you want feedback on the fullscreen editor or on the 
unconventional theme and palette of the site? IMO it is a mistake to blend 
things like this in demos because it makes it ambiguous what the "product" 
is. Or maybe you intend to include all of that in the plugin... which I 
would also consider a mistake. I like the fullscreen editor but I would 
never use that theme.

Very cool idea to put the tiddler tools ext to the editor tools like that. 
I've never seen, nor thought, of that and it works totally good.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[Atronoush]

JD,

 This is brilliant!

You know TW 5.1.23 is under the way and has more cool stuff! Among them the 
support for keyboard for selecting items in search and tag pill.
 Why not to use also these features and develop your tools on TW 5.1.23pre!

  For example in FS one can work just with keyboard independent from mouse 
clicks!

Atro

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 5:19:27 PM UTC+4:30 JD wrote:

> Hello everyone, 
>
> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>
> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
> TW5.1.22's features..
>
> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to try 
> it here: 
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> (I have more notes about its development there)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> -jd
>
> ---
>
> Legecy has moved here:
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[Saq Imtiaz]

@JD

Yeah, I *might *make this independent of the current EditTemplate plugin 
> I'm parallely developing it on... but I'm not too keen on it. I'm actually 
> sort of hesitant to style core templates... chances are it'll interfere 
> with other, more-important plugins, like how StoriesPlugin needs 
> compatibility styling with my themes. Anyway, I still *might*. hehe. I 
> guess the last barrier will be how I don't much like the looks of the core 
> EditTemplate and so would like to limit the time I use it or test for it
>

I hear you, I go out of my way to never have to use the default 
EditTemplate.

 In terms of usability of your plugin, if it works with whatever 
EditTemplate the user may have setup, that would be a huge plus as many 
have customized their templates. 

Personally I think it would be acceptable if going to fullscreen mode 
switched to your custom edit template and back, but otherwise whatever 
template was specified by the user in $:/config/ui/EditTemplate was active. 
So for someone that always wanted to use your custom edit template, that 
would also be possible.
 

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[JD]

Thanks for trying this out Saq!

>
>- animations are cool, but maybe a config option to control duration 
>or disable them?
>- perhaps don't show the dropdown to adjust margins etc when not in FS 
>mode?
>
> Definitely! I'm going to use the core animation duration config for this, 
and thanks for the observation on dropdown usability!

>
>- the slider for left/right gutter is hard to use since the container 
>moves
>- perhaps something like the DualRangeWidget from 
>https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/sandbox.html could be handy to 
>configure left/right and top/bottom separately
>
> The fact that the popup moves along with the tiddler width, i think, will 
make any horizontal movement clash with range widgets.. notice how the 
vertical gutters, perpendicular to the range widget, doesn't make the 
operation too awkward. I'm thinking of either turning this into  *<<* and 
*>>* buttons with the changing value in between them, or first show the 
adjustment on a small preview and let the user apply or not. I'm leaning 
towards the first option hehe just because I'd like the operation to be 
instant.

>
>- I haven't looked at the code but I imagine you're switching and 
>restoring the edit template configured in $:/config/ui/EditTemplate, and 
> if 
>so this should work just as well if a custom edit template is specified.
>
> Yeah, I *might *make this independent of the current EditTemplate plugin 
I'm parallely developing it on... but I'm not too keen on it. I'm actually 
sort of hesitant to style core templates... chances are it'll interfere 
with other, more-important plugins, like how StoriesPlugin needs 
compatibility styling with my themes. Anyway, I still *might*. hehe. I 
guess the last barrier will be how I don't much like the looks of the core 
EditTemplate and so would like to limit the time I use it or test for it

Offtopic: If you have the time to spare I think we could benefit from your 
> input here as well:
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4765



I noticed a strangeness in the method I tried! Please do check out my reply 
there. 

Thanks again!

-jd


On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+9, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Cool stuff JD. 
>
> Some quick observations:
>
>- animations are cool, but maybe a config option to control duration 
>or disable them?
>- perhaps don't show the dropdown to adjust margins etc when not in FS 
>mode?
>- the slider for left/right gutter is hard to use since the container 
>moves
>- perhaps something like the DualRangeWidget from 
>https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/sandbox.html could be handy to 
>configure left/right and top/bottom separately
>- I haven't looked at the code but I imagine you're switching and 
>restoring the edit template configured in $:/config/ui/EditTemplate, and 
> if 
>so this should work just as well if a custom edit template is specified.
>
> Offtopic: If you have the time to spare I think we could benefit from your 
> input here as well:
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4765
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 2:49:27 PM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, 
>>
>> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
>> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>>
>> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
>> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
>> TW5.1.22's features..
>>
>> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to 
>> try it here: 
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> (I have more notes about its development there)
>>
>> Thanks guys
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Legecy has moved here:
>>
>> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [PLUGIN] Working on a new fullscreen editor, looking for feedback

[Saq Imtiaz]

Cool stuff JD. 

Some quick observations:

   - animations are cool, but maybe a config option to control duration or 
   disable them?
   - perhaps don't show the dropdown to adjust margins etc when not in FS 
   mode?
   - the slider for left/right gutter is hard to use since the container 
   moves
   - perhaps something like the DualRangeWidget from 
   https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/sandbox.html could be handy to 
   configure left/right and top/bottom separately
   - I haven't looked at the code but I imagine you're switching and 
   restoring the edit template configured in $:/config/ui/EditTemplate, and if 
   so this should work just as well if a custom edit template is specified.

Offtopic: If you have the time to spare I think we could benefit from your 
input here as well:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4765

Cheers,
Saq

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 2:49:27 PM UTC+2, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, 
>
> I was backtracking and saw some posts about my old Fullscreen editor 
> plugin... Thank you for the appreciation!
>
> ...Found out some people were having trouble with it (I, myself, consider 
> it inelegant), so I am in the process of developing a new one that uses 
> TW5.1.22's features..
>
> It's not yet packaged in a plugin, so I'd like for those interested to try 
> it here: 
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> (I have more notes about its development there)
>
> Thanks guys
>
> -jd
>
> ---
>
> Legecy has moved here:
>
> http://j.d.fullscreen.legacy.tiddlyspot.com/
>

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