[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The example for "lookup" operator doesn't seem to use the default "show". 
That is, it shows the 
same list as the example without the default. The default "show" is never 
used -- just blanks.

Using FF 68.0.2 Win 7


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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Forget that. You probably don't want the output as a link.

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 9:50:21 AM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Following Jeremy's comments, since "enlist" will collapse strings, you can 
> do this fairly cleanly:
>
> {{{ [enlist{!!tiddler-mode}else{wiki-mode}] }}}
>
> (Sorry, I shortened tiddler $:/config/wiki-mode for visibility)
>
> Or at least it worked in my tests.
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Following Jeremy's comments, since "enlist" will collapse strings, you can 
do this fairly cleanly:

{{{ [enlist{!!tiddler-mode}else{wiki-mode}] }}}

(Sorry, I shortened tiddler $:/config/wiki-mode for visibility)

Or at least it worked in my tests.

Thanks!

-- Mark

On Monday, August 12, 2019 at 9:35:26 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The following is not working
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on 
> the current tiddler is empty?
>
> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
> parameter?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>
>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>> * Several new performance optimisations
>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>> * Many bug fixes
>>
>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>
>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
>> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Thanks Mat and Mohammad

I used this thanks to your tips
{{{ [all[current]get[tiddler-mode]else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}

Does this mean that triple braces text references can derive the 
currentTiddler ?

The broken case being
{{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}

*Do you think this is a bug?*

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 2:57:28 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Tony
>
> This works for me
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}match[test]then{$:/SiteTitle}else{$:/SiteSubtitle}] 
> }}}
>
>
> Furthermore semantically I like to have if then else.
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> The following is not working
>> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
>> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on 
>> the current tiddler is empty?
>>
>> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
>> parameter?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>>
>>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>>
>>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>>> * Several new performance optimisations
>>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>>> * Many bug fixes
>>>
>>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>>
>>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>>
>>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave 
>>> up their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mohammad]

Tony

This work for me
{{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}match[test]then{$:/SiteTitle}else{$:/SiteSubtitle}] }}}


Furthermore semantically I like to have if then else.

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> The following is not working
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
> and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on 
> the current tiddler is empty?
>
> Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
> parameter?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>
>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>> * Several new performance optimisations
>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>> * Many bug fixes
>>
>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>
>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
>> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mat]

TonyM wrote:
>
> {{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
>
 
This seems to work which indicates it has to do with the input to "else" 
rather than what "else" can return

{{{ [get[tiddler-mode]else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Folks,

The following is not working
{{{ [{!!tiddler-mode}else{$:/config/wiki-mode}] }}}
and not returning the content of $:/config/wiki-mode when the field on the 
current tiddler is empty?

Am I correct thinking this because else can only return a string in the 
parameter?

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Michael Wiktowy]

Thanks for releasing this. Great additions and while it could be worked 
around with plugins, it is nice to have math in the core. Now that we have 
such amazing functionality, in the Mathematical Operators section, it might 
be worthwhile highlighting the limits of the 64 bit floating point ... as 
is witnessed in the "precision Operator (Examples)" -> precision[90] 
example ... thar be dragons beyond [15].

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 11:57:44 AM UTC-3, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Damon Pritchett]

Ok - after I posted the message, I tried uninstalling the uni-link plugin 
and then doing the upgrade. That fixed the problem. I had tried disabling 
and/or uninstalling the plugin after the upgrade, but neither fixed the 
issue. As a test, I upgraded my TW with uni-link again to see if it 
repeated and it did. There's something about the uni-link plugin that seems 
to be causing this.

Damon

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 1:08:20 PM UTC-7, Damon Pritchett wrote:
>
> I tried upgrading this morning and have had an interesting issue. All of 
> my internal links are repeating the text if there isn't an alias given with 
> the link. For example, if I have a link to an internal tiddler like this:
>
> [[Internal Tiddler Link]]
>
> then the output looks like this:
>
> Internal Tiddler Link*Internal Tiddler Link*
>
> with the underlined part being the link. The link itself works just fine. 
> If the link has an alias then it all works fine. By alias, I mean like this:
>
> [[Other Tiddler|Internal Tiddler Link]].
>
> This shows as expected like this:
>
> *Other Tiddler*
>
> Nothing else changed in my TW. Only the upgrade.
>
> Any thoughts on what might be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Damon
>
> On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 7:57:44 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>>
>> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
>> * New mathematics and string filter operators
>> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
>> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
>> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
>> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
>> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
>> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
>> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
>> * Several new performance optimisations
>> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
>> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
>> * Improved handling of JSON files
>> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
>> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
>> * Many bug fixes
>>
>> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
>> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>>
>> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
>> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Damon Pritchett]

I tried upgrading this morning and have had an interesting issue. All of my 
internal links are repeating the text if there isn't an alias given with 
the link. For example, if I have a link to an internal tiddler like this:

[[Internal Tiddler Link]]

then the output looks like this:

Internal Tiddler Link*Internal Tiddler Link*

with the underlined part being the link. The link itself works just fine. 
If the link has an alias then it all works fine. By alias, I mean like this:

[[Other Tiddler|Internal Tiddler Link]].

Nothing else changed in my TW. Only the upgrade.

Any thoughts on what might be causing this?

Thanks,

Damon

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 7:57:44 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mohammad]

Thanks Tony!
 I need to make some experiments.
By the way innerwiki seems very exciting!

--Mohammad

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 9:36:25 AM UTC+4:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> I see this as a way to publish empty + plugin demo sites or export data 
> from a larger data set into a distributable tiddlywiki or even tiddlywiki 
> edition generation from a selection process in the parent wiki. You can 
> then save the new wiki with its own save mechanisium. Perhaps it will be 
> wise to set the filename in the innerwiki data tiddlers.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

I see this as a way to publish empty + plugin demo sites or export data from a 
larger data set into a distributable tiddlywiki or even tiddlywiki edition 
generation from a selection process in the parent wiki. You can then save the 
new wiki with its own save mechanisium. Perhaps it will be wise to set the 
filename in the innerwiki data tiddlers.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mohammad]

Tony I found this for learning innerwiki

https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/innerwiki/

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mohammad]

Tony


> So but a few points for all readers to consider
>
>- The innerwiki plugin can be used as intended to support screenshots 
>for documentation but you can also generate a wiki in a window from a 
>subset of tiddlers from the parent wiki. This will allow the generation of 
>wiki instances from a parent wiki
>
> Where can I find examples documentation for using innerwiki plugin?

--Mohammad 

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

Thanks so much for this announcement so soon. Like always each new version 
multiplies the possibilities and makes the task of learning get easier.

I expect users, enthusiasts and developers will all get a lot from this 
release. 

So but a few points for all readers to consider

   - The mathematics and string operators will help develop solutions that 
   need just a little maths to make them very compelling
   - The Local Storage plugin will enable read only wikis to;
  - retain visitor settings or last opened tiddlers (although not 
  necessarily permanently)
  - Let people load plugins and macros and reload an online wiki
   - The innerwiki plugin can be used as intended to support screenshots 
   for documentation but you can also generate a wiki in a window from a 
   subset of tiddlers from the parent wiki. This will allow the generation of 
   wiki instances from a parent wiki
   - The various string, match and condition operators will be more 
   intuitive for many and can simplify macros
   - The hidden indexing performance enhancements can make a big difference 
   to speed and performance in complex code or larger lists.
   - The = in filters to maintain duplicates are not only necessary for 
   some mathematics and string operators but will provide new and novel ways  
   to handle lists.

All in all one small step for tiddlywiki, one giant leap towards empowering 
people with software.

Thanks once again
and best wishes to all those who sail in her (tiddlywiki that is)

Tony

On Saturday, August 10, 2019 at 12:57:44 AM UTC+10, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Ste Wilson]

Have upgraded on tiddlyspot. 
All good but the gdpr Google Analytics plug in 
(https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/Gdpr/tiddlywiki/1s33SNkpoYs)
 causes an initial red screen Java error. 

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Jon]

Thank you Jeremy and everyone who contributes to the development of TW - 
something which has become very much part of my life.

Regards
Jon

On Friday, 9 August 2019 15:57:44 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’m delighted to announce the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> This release is massive. Some of the many highlights:
>
> * New conditional filter operators “then” and “else”
> * New mathematics and string filter operators
> * Improved handling of duplicates in filters
> * Improved keyboard shortcuts
> * New saver for saving the single file version direct to GitHub or GitLab
> * New BrowserStorage plugin for saving tiddlers in browser local storage
> * New InnerWiki plugin for rendering TiddlyWiki screenshots
> * New and improved translations for Catalan, Chinese Simplified and 
> Chinese Traditional, French, German, US English
> * Several new performance optimisations
> * New palettes and a new palette manager for more easily editing them
> * New and fixed animations for several system actions
> * Improved handling of JSON files
> * New mechanism to add plugins to a wiki from the command line
> * New “savewikifolder” and “deletetiddlers" commands for Node.js
> * Many bug fixes
>
> You can upgrade your existing single file wikis at: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> As usual, please exercise caution when working with an upgrade, and take 
> care to take plenty of backups. Comments and questions welcome.
>
> It only remains to offer my sincere thanks to the many people who gave up 
> their time and talents to contribute to this release.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Mat]

...I mean in the good sense.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.20

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Jeremy,

A lot to explore and experiment with.

Thanks to you and all who contributed.

Cheers,

Ton

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