[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-23 Thread Finn Lancaster
@TW Tones, the method I employed is actually quite simple, it's powered by 
a repository in my Github, using Github pages. I figured that this meant it 
had to call the index.html (the html file holding tiddlyWiki) file to 
display my tiddlyWiki. However, I took this a few steps further by making 
it sync back to that same github index.html file. Basically, this means 
that it places a call through the Github API, which is modified every time 
the users save it. Lastly, my most buggy area, (which you have seen) is 
making it work cross-platform. I happened to stumble upon the localStorage 
value for the Github PAT while digging through the console values to figure 
out a simple error, and realized that I could just add a 
localStorage.setItem call to add the value to any computer that opens the 
page, meaning they have the same functionality as me. Of course, this means 
that the application is not so secure, as anyone can grab the Github PAT 
from the console with one line of javascript, but I have a few methods in 
place to prevent/protect myself in the case that this happens.

On Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 9:35:24 AM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Whoops! Thanks for the quick bug catch! My raw tagged tiddler must have 
> been accidentally deleted when I was screwing with the Shadow Tiddlers. I 
> just fixed it now and tested, seems to be fine except for the usual edit, 
> save, refresh, then repeat to actually show up. Also, it's been throwing a 
> 409 error when saved on chrome especially, but the changes still seem to 
> sync.
>
> On Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 12:39:46 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> I had a look, when I try and save it just uses the default save HTML to 
>> file.
>>
>> Could you include more instructions on collaboration and the method you 
>> have employed please?
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Saturday, 23 January 2021 at 01:11:58 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Amazing! My collab idea works perfectly. Check it out at 
>>> wiki.finnsoftware.net. Just a warning, for changes to upload, you must 
>>> make the change, save, refresh, and then redo it, which can get quite 
>>> annoying. After the second refresh as described though, the change will be 
>>> shown.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 10:56:46 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 Search for raw on tiddlywiki.com and each of the special system tags 
 will be listed. 

 If you have a tiddler containing the information you want choose the 
 appropriate tag and tag the tiddler, and it will be saved into the 
 specific 
 location such as in the head element. Each system tag explains where it 
 will be stored.

 I am not sure if the script will fire as you expect, but its worth a 
 try.

 As a newby, from an experienced user (not Plugin developer yet), in 
 plain English as I understand it, TiddlyWikis automatic links and magic 
 comes from the fact that it has its own framework. Plugin Javascript needs 
 to comply with various standards to maintain the magic in tiddlywiki. 
 TiddlyWiki is also structured in a way people cant inject Javascript with 
 out the ability to save and reload the wiki which is an essential security 
 feature.

 Also;

 There is a local storage plugin and also password widget in tiddlywiki. 
 I recommend always checking if tiddlywiki has already provided a 
 mechaisium 
 for what ever you want to do before going off on your own, many things 
 have 
 being already included such that javascript is unnecessary.

 Tones

 On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:43:48 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Also, since I am a bit of a newbie to TiddlyWiki, I would be grateful 
> if you could explain/define RAW tags on tiddlers, and how to use them. 
> For 
> example, if I wanted to add a javaScript alert (ie alert('this is 
> an alert')) that fired on page load, how would I do it with 
> these 
> RAW tags?
>
> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
>> localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB 
>> PAT');. 
>> I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
>> , , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
>> displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. 
>> When 
>> I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
>> localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by 
>> TiddlyWiki" 
>> is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the 
>> modified 
>> localStorage attributes.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> I think you need to describe this with a little more details.
>>>
>>> The tiddlywiki save process saves the html 

[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-23 Thread Finn Lancaster
Whoops! Thanks for the quick bug catch! My raw tagged tiddler must have 
been accidentally deleted when I was screwing with the Shadow Tiddlers. I 
just fixed it now and tested, seems to be fine except for the usual edit, 
save, refresh, then repeat to actually show up. Also, it's been throwing a 
409 error when saved on chrome especially, but the changes still seem to 
sync.

On Saturday, January 23, 2021 at 12:39:46 AM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> I had a look, when I try and save it just uses the default save HTML to 
> file.
>
> Could you include more instructions on collaboration and the method you 
> have employed please?
>
> Tones
>
> On Saturday, 23 January 2021 at 01:11:58 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Amazing! My collab idea works perfectly. Check it out at 
>> wiki.finnsoftware.net. Just a warning, for changes to upload, you must 
>> make the change, save, refresh, and then redo it, which can get quite 
>> annoying. After the second refresh as described though, the change will be 
>> shown.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 10:56:46 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Search for raw on tiddlywiki.com and each of the special system tags 
>>> will be listed. 
>>>
>>> If you have a tiddler containing the information you want choose the 
>>> appropriate tag and tag the tiddler, and it will be saved into the specific 
>>> location such as in the head element. Each system tag explains where it 
>>> will be stored.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if the script will fire as you expect, but its worth a try.
>>>
>>> As a newby, from an experienced user (not Plugin developer yet), in 
>>> plain English as I understand it, TiddlyWikis automatic links and magic 
>>> comes from the fact that it has its own framework. Plugin Javascript needs 
>>> to comply with various standards to maintain the magic in tiddlywiki. 
>>> TiddlyWiki is also structured in a way people cant inject Javascript with 
>>> out the ability to save and reload the wiki which is an essential security 
>>> feature.
>>>
>>> Also;
>>>
>>> There is a local storage plugin and also password widget in tiddlywiki. 
>>> I recommend always checking if tiddlywiki has already provided a mechaisium 
>>> for what ever you want to do before going off on your own, many things have 
>>> being already included such that javascript is unnecessary.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:43:48 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Also, since I am a bit of a newbie to TiddlyWiki, I would be grateful 
 if you could explain/define RAW tags on tiddlers, and how to use them. For 
 example, if I wanted to add a javaScript alert (ie alert('this is 
 an alert')) that fired on page load, how would I do it with these 
 RAW tags?

 On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
> localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB 
> PAT');. 
> I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
> , , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
> displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. 
> When 
> I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
> localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by 
> TiddlyWiki" 
> is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the 
> modified 
> localStorage attributes.
>
> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> I think you need to describe this with a little more details.
>>
>> The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template 
>> and filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter 
>> when it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.
>>
>> Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html 
>> file
>> It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using 
>> additional RAW tags on tiddlers.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki 
>>> Collaboration script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from 
>>> Github Pages, and calling the file straight from github to display, 
>>> showing 
>>> each of the recent changes. This main described functionality works 
>>> perfectly, except that, when saved to github, the index.html file 
>>> storing 
>>> tiddlywiki is deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any 
>>> additional html I have added onto the file for the collab to work is 
>>> gone. 
>>> In short, this breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to 
>>> do.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-22 Thread TW Tones
I had a look, when I try and save it just uses the default save HTML to 
file.

Could you include more instructions on collaboration and the method you 
have employed please?

Tones

On Saturday, 23 January 2021 at 01:11:58 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Amazing! My collab idea works perfectly. Check it out at 
> wiki.finnsoftware.net. Just a warning, for changes to upload, you must 
> make the change, save, refresh, and then redo it, which can get quite 
> annoying. After the second refresh as described though, the change will be 
> shown.
>
> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 10:56:46 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Search for raw on tiddlywiki.com and each of the special system tags 
>> will be listed. 
>>
>> If you have a tiddler containing the information you want choose the 
>> appropriate tag and tag the tiddler, and it will be saved into the specific 
>> location such as in the head element. Each system tag explains where it 
>> will be stored.
>>
>> I am not sure if the script will fire as you expect, but its worth a try.
>>
>> As a newby, from an experienced user (not Plugin developer yet), in plain 
>> English as I understand it, TiddlyWikis automatic links and magic comes 
>> from the fact that it has its own framework. Plugin Javascript needs to 
>> comply with various standards to maintain the magic in tiddlywiki. 
>> TiddlyWiki is also structured in a way people cant inject Javascript with 
>> out the ability to save and reload the wiki which is an essential security 
>> feature.
>>
>> Also;
>>
>> There is a local storage plugin and also password widget in tiddlywiki. I 
>> recommend always checking if tiddlywiki has already provided a mechaisium 
>> for what ever you want to do before going off on your own, many things have 
>> being already included such that javascript is unnecessary.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:43:48 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Also, since I am a bit of a newbie to TiddlyWiki, I would be grateful if 
>>> you could explain/define RAW tags on tiddlers, and how to use them. For 
>>> example, if I wanted to add a javaScript alert (ie alert('this is 
>>> an alert')) that fired on page load, how would I do it with these 
>>> RAW tags?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>>
 Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
 localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB 
 PAT');. 
 I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
 , , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
 displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. 
 When 
 I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
 localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by TiddlyWiki" 
 is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the modified 
 localStorage attributes.

 On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> I think you need to describe this with a little more details.
>
> The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template and 
> filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter when 
> it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.
>
> Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html 
> file
> It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using 
> additional RAW tags on tiddlers.
>
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki 
>> Collaboration script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from 
>> Github Pages, and calling the file straight from github to display, 
>> showing 
>> each of the recent changes. This main described functionality works 
>> perfectly, except that, when saved to github, the index.html file 
>> storing 
>> tiddlywiki is deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any 
>> additional html I have added onto the file for the collab to work is 
>> gone. 
>> In short, this breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to 
>> do.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-22 Thread Finn Lancaster
Amazing! My collab idea works perfectly. Check it out at 
wiki.finnsoftware.net. Just a warning, for changes to upload, you must make 
the change, save, refresh, and then redo it, which can get quite annoying. 
After the second refresh as described though, the change will be shown.

On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 10:56:46 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> Search for raw on tiddlywiki.com and each of the special system tags will 
> be listed. 
>
> If you have a tiddler containing the information you want choose the 
> appropriate tag and tag the tiddler, and it will be saved into the specific 
> location such as in the head element. Each system tag explains where it 
> will be stored.
>
> I am not sure if the script will fire as you expect, but its worth a try.
>
> As a newby, from an experienced user (not Plugin developer yet), in plain 
> English as I understand it, TiddlyWikis automatic links and magic comes 
> from the fact that it has its own framework. Plugin Javascript needs to 
> comply with various standards to maintain the magic in tiddlywiki. 
> TiddlyWiki is also structured in a way people cant inject Javascript with 
> out the ability to save and reload the wiki which is an essential security 
> feature.
>
> Also;
>
> There is a local storage plugin and also password widget in tiddlywiki. I 
> recommend always checking if tiddlywiki has already provided a mechaisium 
> for what ever you want to do before going off on your own, many things have 
> being already included such that javascript is unnecessary.
>
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:43:48 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Also, since I am a bit of a newbie to TiddlyWiki, I would be grateful if 
>> you could explain/define RAW tags on tiddlers, and how to use them. For 
>> example, if I wanted to add a javaScript alert (ie alert('this is 
>> an alert')) that fired on page load, how would I do it with these 
>> RAW tags?
>>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>>
>>> Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
>>> localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB PAT');. 
>>> I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
>>> , , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
>>> displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. When 
>>> I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
>>> localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by TiddlyWiki" 
>>> is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the modified 
>>> localStorage attributes.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>>
 I think you need to describe this with a little more details.

 The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template and 
 filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter when 
 it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.

 Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html 
 file
 It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using additional 
 RAW tags on tiddlers.

 Tones

 On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
> As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki Collaboration 
> script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from Github Pages, 
> and 
> calling the file straight from github to display, showing each of the 
> recent changes. This main described functionality works perfectly, except 
> that, when saved to github, the index.html file storing tiddlywiki is 
> deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any additional html I 
> have added onto the file for the collab to work is gone. In short, this 
> breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to do.
>


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[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-21 Thread TW Tones
Search for raw on tiddlywiki.com and each of the special system tags will 
be listed. 

If you have a tiddler containing the information you want choose the 
appropriate tag and tag the tiddler, and it will be saved into the specific 
location such as in the head element. Each system tag explains where it 
will be stored.

I am not sure if the script will fire as you expect, but its worth a try.

As a newby, from an experienced user (not Plugin developer yet), in plain 
English as I understand it, TiddlyWikis automatic links and magic comes 
from the fact that it has its own framework. Plugin Javascript needs to 
comply with various standards to maintain the magic in tiddlywiki. 
TiddlyWiki is also structured in a way people cant inject Javascript with 
out the ability to save and reload the wiki which is an essential security 
feature.

Also;

There is a local storage plugin and also password widget in tiddlywiki. I 
recommend always checking if tiddlywiki has already provided a mechaisium 
for what ever you want to do before going off on your own, many things have 
being already included such that javascript is unnecessary.

Tones

On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:43:48 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Also, since I am a bit of a newbie to TiddlyWiki, I would be grateful if 
> you could explain/define RAW tags on tiddlers, and how to use them. For 
> example, if I wanted to add a javaScript alert (ie alert('this is 
> an alert')) that fired on page load, how would I do it with these 
> RAW tags?
>
> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:
>
>> Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
>> localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB PAT');. 
>> I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
>> , , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
>> displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. When 
>> I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
>> localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by TiddlyWiki" 
>> is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the modified 
>> localStorage attributes.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> I think you need to describe this with a little more details.
>>>
>>> The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template and 
>>> filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter when 
>>> it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.
>>>
>>> Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html 
>>> file
>>> It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using additional 
>>> RAW tags on tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki Collaboration 
 script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from Github Pages, and 
 calling the file straight from github to display, showing each of the 
 recent changes. This main described functionality works perfectly, except 
 that, when saved to github, the index.html file storing tiddlywiki is 
 deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any additional html I 
 have added onto the file for the collab to work is gone. In short, this 
 breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to do.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-21 Thread Finn Lancaster
Also, since I am a bit of a newbie to TiddlyWiki, I would be grateful if 
you could explain/define RAW tags on tiddlers, and how to use them. For 
example, if I wanted to add a javaScript alert (ie alert('this is 
an alert')) that fired on page load, how would I do it with these 
RAW tags?

On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:41:12 PM UTC-5 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
> localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB PAT');. 
> I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
> , , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
> displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. When 
> I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
> localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by TiddlyWiki" 
> is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the modified 
> localStorage attributes.
>
> On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> I think you need to describe this with a little more details.
>>
>> The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template and 
>> filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter when 
>> it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.
>>
>> Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html file
>> It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using additional 
>> RAW tags on tiddlers.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki Collaboration 
>>> script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from Github Pages, and 
>>> calling the file straight from github to display, showing each of the 
>>> recent changes. This main described functionality works perfectly, except 
>>> that, when saved to github, the index.html file storing tiddlywiki is 
>>> deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any additional html I 
>>> have added onto the file for the collab to work is gone. In short, this 
>>> breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to do.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-21 Thread Finn Lancaster
Sure @TW Tones. I'm adding the following lines to the HTML file: 
localStorage.setItem('tw5-password-github','GITHUB PAT');. 
I have added them to various places, both inside and outside the DOM (ie 
, , before and after ). This works perfectly by 
displaying the localStorage value when I type localStorage in console. When 
I edit some stuff and then save it to github, when I go back the 
localStorage will be cleared. On Github, the message "Saved by TiddlyWiki" 
is shown under commits, and the raw source code does not show the modified 
localStorage attributes.

On Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 8:21:19 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> I think you need to describe this with a little more details.
>
> The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template and 
> filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter when 
> it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.
>
> Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html file
> It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using additional 
> RAW tags on tiddlers.
>
> Tones
>
> On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki Collaboration 
>> script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from Github Pages, and 
>> calling the file straight from github to display, showing each of the 
>> recent changes. This main described functionality works perfectly, except 
>> that, when saved to github, the index.html file storing tiddlywiki is 
>> deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any additional html I 
>> have added onto the file for the collab to work is gone. In short, this 
>> breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to do.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Modify TiddlyWiki to leave added code in html file

2021-01-21 Thread TW Tones
I think you need to describe this with a little more details.

The tiddlywiki save process saves the html according to a template and 
filters, if you alter the html file by other means it may not matter when 
it goes to save, it will save as it is setup to.

Perhaps if you explain what if anything, you are changing in the html file
It is common to introduce other code to the tiddlywiki using additional RAW 
tags on tiddlers.

Tones

On Friday, 22 January 2021 at 12:00:13 UTC+11 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
> As some of you know, I have been working on a TiddlyWiki Collaboration 
> script. Basically, the script works by being hosted from Github Pages, and 
> calling the file straight from github to display, showing each of the 
> recent changes. This main described functionality works perfectly, except 
> that, when saved to github, the index.html file storing tiddlywiki is 
> deleted and remade with the changes, meaning that any additional html I 
> have added onto the file for the collab to work is gone. In short, this 
> breaks it after the first use, and I'm stuck on what to do.
>

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