[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[odin...@gmail.com]

Did you end up with a way to disable the hover mode? I am trying to find it 
within the code, but I can't seem to find it.

Op maandag 27 augustus 2018 om 12:57:07 UTC+2 schreef JD:

> Hi Mohammad, 
>
> In a future version I'll add an option to disable the hover mode and have 
> it simply close and open the sidebar... I don't have much free time as of 
> now and can't commit. Thanks for the idea!
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 4:14:50 AM UTC+9, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Jed!
>>  Great theme! I like the right bar and the design of cards like tools, 
>> search and create and ...
>>
>> Add the small description by Eric in above email as we expect when click 
>> on the button sidebar is closed
>> but at the same time we need to move mouse away from the sidebar to see 
>> the effects.
>> I suggest it is better  by clicking the button it closes the sidebar!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 5:06:03 PM UTC+4:30, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>>
>>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
>>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made 
>>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
>>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
>>> reasons... 
>>>
>>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>>
>>> Perpetual lurker, 
>>> JD
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[E Browns]

Oh my! Sorry I've been really busy with work, I'll get to it this weekend!

Will adding an option to offset Whitespace's topbar help with your use
case? So the MebuBar is topmost and Whitespace topbar is below it?

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 13:48 danraymond,  wrote:

> JD,
> Any way to remove the icons above the Title in the sidebar. I use the Menu
> Bar as well which unfortunatley covers the top part of the popout sidebar.
> Unless there's a way to get the Menu Bar below your sidebarso side bar goes
> on top when it pops out???
>
> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:45:53 PM UTC+10 danraymond wrote:
>
>> Hello JD;
>>
>> All good thank you for the best theme for TW5 it is perfect for my needs.
>> Look forward to any further incarnations.
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:45:44 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello again Danraymond,
>>>
>>> I've finally updated this theme to fix the previous bugs (The demo site
>>> has also been updated to v5.1.22 of Tiddlywiki).
>>>
>>> For safe re-installation, please go to *$:/AdvancedSearch* > *Filter*
>>> tab of your wiki and delete this filter search term:
>>> [is[shadow]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Whitespace]][prefix[$:/config/Whitespace
>>> ]]
>>>
>>> Then, just install the theme normally again from the site.
>>>
>>> (Overwritten shadow tiddlers of the theme might have prevented the
>>> update.)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the bug report!
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:58:29 PM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:

 Hi JD;

 Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see
 attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files
 and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.

 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hi again!
>
> It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*
>
> The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top
> padding*!
>
> Please do inform if they're not working as expected!
>
> -jd
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>
>> Hi JD;
>>
>> Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the
>> theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page 
>> controls
>> height, and sidebar top padding?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Danraymond!
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>>>
>>> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height,
>>> and sidebar top padding to accomodate.
>>>
>>> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with
>>> $:/tags/SideBar
>>>
>>> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for
>>> in Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>>>
>>> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I
>>> might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many 
>>> plates
>>> spinning.
>>>
>>> Please stay safe ^^,
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:
>>>
 Hi JD;

 This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a
 great theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.

 I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with
 the "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?

 Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that
 shows the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the
 title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are 
 covers
 it up slightly?

 Thank you

 On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and
> conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of
> design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be 
> into
> this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
> sharing
> for archiving reasons...
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love
> back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker,
> JD
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[danraymond]

JD,
Any way to remove the icons above the Title in the sidebar. I use the Menu 
Bar as well which unfortunatley covers the top part of the popout sidebar. 
Unless there's a way to get the Menu Bar below your sidebarso side bar goes 
on top when it pops out???

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:45:53 PM UTC+10 danraymond wrote:

> Hello JD;
>
> All good thank you for the best theme for TW5 it is perfect for my needs. 
> Look forward to any further incarnations.
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:45:44 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello again Danraymond,
>>
>> I've finally updated this theme to fix the previous bugs (The demo site 
>> has also been updated to v5.1.22 of Tiddlywiki). 
>>
>> For safe re-installation, please go to *$:/AdvancedSearch* > *Filter* 
>> tab of your wiki and delete this filter search term: 
>> [is[shadow]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Whitespace]][prefix[$:/config/Whitespace]]
>>
>> Then, just install the theme normally again from the site.
>>
>> (Overwritten shadow tiddlers of the theme might have prevented the 
>> update.)
>>
>> Thanks for the bug report!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:58:29 PM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see 
>>> attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files 
>>> and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hi again! 

 It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*

 The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top 
 padding*!

 Please do inform if they're not working as expected!

 -jd

 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>
> Hi JD;
>
> Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the 
> theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page 
> controls 
> height, and sidebar top padding?
>
> Thank you
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Danraymond! 
>>
>> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>>
>> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, 
>> and sidebar top padding to accomodate. 
>>
>> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar
>>
>> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for 
>> in Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>>
>> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I 
>> might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many 
>> plates 
>> spinning. 
>>
>> Please stay safe ^^,
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a 
>>> great theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>>>
>>> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
>>> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>>>
>>> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows 
>>> the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the 
>>> title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are 
>>> covers 
>>> it up slightly?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,

 This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and 
 conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of 
 design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be 
 into 
 this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
 sharing 
 for archiving reasons... 

 Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 

 Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love 
 back-reading ☺️

 Perpetual lurker, 
 JD

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[danraymond]

Hello JD;

All good thank you for the best theme for TW5 it is perfect for my needs. 
Look forward to any further incarnations.

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:45:44 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello again Danraymond,
>
> I've finally updated this theme to fix the previous bugs (The demo site 
> has also been updated to v5.1.22 of Tiddlywiki). 
>
> For safe re-installation, please go to *$:/AdvancedSearch* > *Filter* tab 
> of your wiki and delete this filter search term: 
> [is[shadow]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Whitespace]][prefix[$:/config/Whitespace]]
>
> Then, just install the theme normally again from the site.
>
> (Overwritten shadow tiddlers of the theme might have prevented the update.)
>
> Thanks for the bug report!
>
> -jd
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:58:29 PM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>
>> Hi JD;
>>
>> Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see 
>> attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files 
>> and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi again! 
>>>
>>> It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*
>>>
>>> The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top 
>>> padding*!
>>>
>>> Please do inform if they're not working as expected!
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:

 Hi JD;

 Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the 
 theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page controls 
 height, and sidebar top padding?

 Thank you

 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Danraymond! 
>
> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>
> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, 
> and sidebar top padding to accomodate. 
>
> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar
>
> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for 
> in Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>
> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I 
> might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates 
> spinning. 
>
> Please stay safe ^^,
>
> -jd
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:
>
>> Hi JD;
>>
>> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great 
>> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>>
>> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
>> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>>
>> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows 
>> the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the 
>> title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are 
>> covers 
>> it up slightly?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>>
>>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and 
>>> conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of 
>>> design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be 
>>> into 
>>> this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
>>> sharing 
>>> for archiving reasons... 
>>>
>>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love 
>>> back-reading ☺️
>>>
>>> Perpetual lurker, 
>>> JD
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[TW Tones]

JD

I just reviewed your theme again and I really is great. The only thing I 
notices was when the side bar is open and you click on a card, you must 
click the word eg "Tools" to open the card. The way the cards look though 
one would expect clicking anywhere on that line, except where the buttons 
appear on hover, would open the card. If its not a difficult issue that may 
be a nice refinement. It will help on touch based systems as well.

Also I am curious where Close others button has gone.

This is very nice. Thanks

Regards
TW Tones (aka TonyM)




On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[TW Tones]

Just loaded for me

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 3:26:58 PM UTC+10, danraymond wrote:
>
> JD;
>
> Thank you. Seems whitespace tiddlyspot not loading at moment. Will try 
> later.
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:45:44 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello again Danraymond,
>>
>> I've finally updated this theme to fix the previous bugs (The demo site 
>> has also been updated to v5.1.22 of Tiddlywiki). 
>>
>> For safe re-installation, please go to *$:/AdvancedSearch* > *Filter* 
>> tab of your wiki and delete this filter search term: 
>> [is[shadow]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Whitespace]][prefix[$:/config/Whitespace]]
>>
>> Then, just install the theme normally again from the site.
>>
>> (Overwritten shadow tiddlers of the theme might have prevented the 
>> update.)
>>
>> Thanks for the bug report!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:58:29 PM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see 
>>> attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files 
>>> and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hi again! 

 It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*

 The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top 
 padding*!

 Please do inform if they're not working as expected!

 -jd

 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>
> Hi JD;
>
> Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the 
> theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page 
> controls 
> height, and sidebar top padding?
>
> Thank you
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Danraymond! 
>>
>> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>>
>> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, 
>> and sidebar top padding to accomodate. 
>>
>> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar
>>
>> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for 
>> in Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>>
>> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I 
>> might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many 
>> plates 
>> spinning. 
>>
>> Please stay safe ^^,
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a 
>>> great theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>>>
>>> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
>>> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>>>
>>> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows 
>>> the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the 
>>> title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are 
>>> covers 
>>> it up slightly?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,

 This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and 
 conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of 
 design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be 
 into 
 this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
 sharing 
 for archiving reasons... 

 Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 

 Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love 
 back-reading ☺️

 Perpetual lurker, 
 JD

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[danraymond]

JD;

Thank you. Seems whitespace tiddlyspot not loading at moment. Will try 
later.


On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:45:44 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello again Danraymond,
>
> I've finally updated this theme to fix the previous bugs (The demo site 
> has also been updated to v5.1.22 of Tiddlywiki). 
>
> For safe re-installation, please go to *$:/AdvancedSearch* > *Filter* tab 
> of your wiki and delete this filter search term: 
> [is[shadow]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Whitespace]][prefix[$:/config/Whitespace]]
>
> Then, just install the theme normally again from the site.
>
> (Overwritten shadow tiddlers of the theme might have prevented the update.)
>
> Thanks for the bug report!
>
> -jd
>
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:58:29 PM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>
>> Hi JD;
>>
>> Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see 
>> attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files 
>> and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi again! 
>>>
>>> It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*
>>>
>>> The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top 
>>> padding*!
>>>
>>> Please do inform if they're not working as expected!
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:

 Hi JD;

 Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the 
 theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page controls 
 height, and sidebar top padding?

 Thank you

 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Danraymond! 
>
> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>
> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, 
> and sidebar top padding to accomodate. 
>
> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar
>
> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for 
> in Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>
> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I 
> might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates 
> spinning. 
>
> Please stay safe ^^,
>
> -jd
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:
>
>> Hi JD;
>>
>> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great 
>> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>>
>> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
>> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>>
>> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows 
>> the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the 
>> title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are 
>> covers 
>> it up slightly?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>>
>>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and 
>>> conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of 
>>> design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be 
>>> into 
>>> this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
>>> sharing 
>>> for archiving reasons... 
>>>
>>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love 
>>> back-reading ☺️
>>>
>>> Perpetual lurker, 
>>> JD
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[twid...@gmail.com]

Hi JD, 

Thank you. :)

Emily

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 7:24:57 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:

> I updated the tiddler in 
> http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibility%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin
>  !
>
> Thank you so much for testing! Please do inform if you encounter more bugs!
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:14:22 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Actually, when the right column is hidden, the tiddlers on the left 
>> should change to full width. When using Whitespace, the left tiddlers stay 
>> halved.
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-7 twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JD,
>>>
>>> Thank you! This works just as expected. 
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>>>
 Hi Emily, thanks for the feedback!

 I've created a dedicated stylesheet you can use for the Stories 
 plugin... please check it out here and inform if it works as expected!


 http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibiliy%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin

 The above stylesheet applies only to wide screens.

 I tested by dragging the *Theme* and the *Compatibility Stylesheet* 
 into a fresh load of the Stories plugin link you sent me. Thanks for 
 getting my attention to that wonderful plugin!

 -jd


 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:17:13 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Two column view also works fine using Material and Mono. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 4:09:00 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 
>>
>> Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate 
>> something like what you've described, if the changes prove to be 
>> minimal. 
>>
>> For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you 
>> want, tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:
>>
>>
>> *@media (min-width: 
>> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
>> {.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: 
>> wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
>> {width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line 
>> if 
>> you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
>> height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi JD,
>>>
>>> I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. 
>>> Unfortunately I can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 
>>> column view. I understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do 
>>> you 
>>> intend to add support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column 
>>> view 
>>> with this theme? 
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hello again Danraymond,

I've finally updated this theme to fix the previous bugs (The demo site has 
also been updated to v5.1.22 of Tiddlywiki). 

For safe re-installation, please go to *$:/AdvancedSearch* > *Filter* tab 
of your wiki and delete this filter search term: 
[is[shadow]prefix[$:/themes/jd/Whitespace]][prefix[$:/config/Whitespace]]

Then, just install the theme normally again from the site.

(Overwritten shadow tiddlers of the theme might have prevented the update.)

Thanks for the bug report!

-jd



On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:58:29 PM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>
> Hi JD;
>
> Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see 
> attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files 
> and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi again! 
>>
>> It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*
>>
>> The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top padding*
>> !
>>
>> Please do inform if they're not working as expected!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the 
>>> theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page controls 
>>> height, and sidebar top padding?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hi Danraymond! 

 Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,

 I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, and 
 sidebar top padding to accomodate. 

 You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar

 Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for in 
 Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/

 Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I 
 might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates 
 spinning. 

 Please stay safe ^^,

 -jd

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:

> Hi JD;
>
> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great 
> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>
> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>
> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows 
> the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the 
> title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are covers 
> it up slightly?
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>
>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and 
>> conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of 
>> design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into 
>> this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
>> sharing 
>> for archiving reasons... 
>>
>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>
>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading 
>> ☺️
>>
>> Perpetual lurker, 
>> JD
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[E Browns]

Oh my!

I looked into it and I saw/remembered that I had put a bad mechanism that
made components of this theme immune to updates (basically, configurations
edit the fields of theme tiddlers themselves.. These over-writings persist
beyond updates).

Let me fix these and I'll get back to you again.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

-jd

On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 12:58 danraymond,  wrote:

> Hi JD;
>
> Thanks again for being so responsive. That's what I looked for, but see
> attached image those options are not there. Will try delete the theme files
> and reimport the downloaded theme tid file.
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:09:55 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi again!
>>
>> It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*
>>
>> The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top padding*
>> !
>>
>> Please do inform if they're not working as expected!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the
>>> theme Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page controls
>>> height, and sidebar top padding?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hi Danraymond!

 Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,

 I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, and
 sidebar top padding to accomodate.

 You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar

 Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for in
 Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/

 Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I
 might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates
 spinning.

 Please stay safe ^^,

 -jd

 On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:

> Hi JD;
>
> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great
> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>
> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the
> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>
> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows
> the control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the
> title/subtitle are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are covers
> it up slightly?
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>
>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and
>> conversations, but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of
>> design... So I made a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into
>> this sort of style. I don't expect it would be used much, I'm just 
>> sharing
>> for archiving reasons...
>>
>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading
>> ☺️
>>
>> Perpetual lurker,
>> JD
>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

I updated the tiddler in 
http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibility%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin
 !

Thank you so much for testing! Please do inform if you encounter more bugs!

-jd

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:14:22 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Actually, when the right column is hidden, the tiddlers on the left should 
> change to full width. When using Whitespace, the left tiddlers stay halved.
>
> Emily
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-7 twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi JD,
>>
>> Thank you! This works just as expected. 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Emily, thanks for the feedback!
>>>
>>> I've created a dedicated stylesheet you can use for the Stories 
>>> plugin... please check it out here and inform if it works as expected!
>>>
>>>
>>> http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibiliy%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin
>>>
>>> The above stylesheet applies only to wide screens.
>>>
>>> I tested by dragging the *Theme* and the *Compatibility Stylesheet* 
>>> into a fresh load of the Stories plugin link you sent me. Thanks for 
>>> getting my attention to that wonderful plugin!
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:17:13 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:

 Two column view also works fine using Material and Mono. 

 Emily

 On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 4:09:00 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:

> Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 
>
> Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate 
> something like what you've described, if the changes prove to be minimal. 
>
> For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you 
> want, tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:
>
>
> *@media (min-width: 
> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
> {.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: 
> wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
> {width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line 
> if 
> you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
> height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:
>>
>> Hi JD,
>>
>> I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. 
>> Unfortunately I can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 
>> column view. I understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do you 
>> intend to add support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column 
>> view 
>> with this theme? 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi again! 

It should be in *$:/ControlPanel* > *Appearance *> *Whitespace Tweaks*

The items are *Sidebar top buttons area height* and *Sidebar top padding*!

Please do inform if they're not working as expected!

-jd

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 10:55:57 AM UTC+9, danraymond wrote:
>
> Hi JD;
>
> Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the theme 
> Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page controls 
> height, and sidebar top padding?
>
> Thank you
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hi Danraymond! 
>>
>> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>>
>> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, and 
>> sidebar top padding to accomodate. 
>>
>> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar
>>
>> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for in 
>> Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>>
>> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I 
>> might get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates 
>> spinning. 
>>
>> Please stay safe ^^,
>>
>> -jd
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JD;
>>>
>>> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great 
>>> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>>>
>>> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
>>> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>>>
>>> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows the 
>>> control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the title/subtitle 
>>> are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are covers it up slightly?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:

 Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,

 This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
 but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I 
 made 
 a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
 don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
 reasons... 

 Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 

 Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading 
 ☺️

 Perpetual lurker, 
 JD

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[danraymond]

Hi JD;

Thanks for such a quick response. I updated the theme. I opened the theme 
Whitespace Theme tweaks, where do I adjust the sidebar page controls 
height, and sidebar top padding?

Thank you

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:58:49 AM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Danraymond! 
>
> Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,
>
> I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, and 
> sidebar top padding to accomodate. 
>
> You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar
>
> Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for in 
> Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/
>
> Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I might 
> get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates 
> spinning. 
>
> Please stay safe ^^,
>
> -jd
>
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond, > 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi JD;
>>
>> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great 
>> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>>
>> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
>> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>>
>> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows the 
>> control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the title/subtitle 
>> are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are covers it up slightly?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>>
>>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
>>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made 
>>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
>>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
>>> reasons... 
>>>
>>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>>
>>> Perpetual lurker, 
>>> JD
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[twid...@gmail.com]

Actually, when the right column is hidden, the tiddlers on the left should 
change to full width. When using Whitespace, the left tiddlers stay halved.

Emily

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 6:08:24 PM UTC-7 twid...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi JD,
>
> Thank you! This works just as expected. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Emily, thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> I've created a dedicated stylesheet you can use for the Stories plugin... 
>> please check it out here and inform if it works as expected!
>>
>>
>> http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibiliy%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin
>>
>> The above stylesheet applies only to wide screens.
>>
>> I tested by dragging the *Theme* and the *Compatibility Stylesheet* into 
>> a fresh load of the Stories plugin link you sent me. Thanks for getting my 
>> attention to that wonderful plugin!
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:17:13 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Two column view also works fine using Material and Mono. 
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 4:09:00 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>>>
 Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 

 Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate 
 something like what you've described, if the changes prove to be minimal. 

 For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you 
 want, tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:


 *@media (min-width: 
 {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
 {.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
 {width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line 
 if 
 you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
 height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards

 -jd


 On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:
>
> Hi JD,
>
> I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. 
> Unfortunately I can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 
> column view. I understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do you 
> intend to add support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column view 
> with this theme? 
>
> Emily
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[twid...@gmail.com]

Hi JD,

Thank you! This works just as expected. 

Emily

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:

> Hi Emily, thanks for the feedback!
>
> I've created a dedicated stylesheet you can use for the Stories plugin... 
> please check it out here and inform if it works as expected!
>
>
> http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibiliy%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin
>
> The above stylesheet applies only to wide screens.
>
> I tested by dragging the *Theme* and the *Compatibility Stylesheet* into 
> a fresh load of the Stories plugin link you sent me. Thanks for getting my 
> attention to that wonderful plugin!
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:17:13 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Two column view also works fine using Material and Mono. 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 4:09:00 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 
>>>
>>> Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate something 
>>> like what you've described, if the changes prove to be minimal. 
>>>
>>> For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you 
>>> want, tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:
>>>
>>>
>>> *@media (min-width: 
>>> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
>>> {.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
>>> {width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line if 
>>> you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
>>> height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards
>>>
>>> -jd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:

 Hi JD,

 I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. 
 Unfortunately I can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 
 column view. I understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do you 
 intend to add support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column view 
 with this theme? 

 Emily



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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Emily, thanks for the feedback!

I've created a dedicated stylesheet you can use for the Stories plugin... 
please check it out here and inform if it works as expected!

http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/#Compatibiliy%20with%20''Stories''%20Plugin

The above stylesheet applies only to wide screens.

I tested by dragging the *Theme* and the *Compatibility Stylesheet* into a 
fresh load of the Stories plugin link you sent me. Thanks for getting my 
attention to that wonderful plugin!

-jd


On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 9:17:13 AM UTC+9, twid...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Two column view also works fine using Material and Mono. 
>
> Emily
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 4:09:00 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:
>
>> Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 
>>
>> Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate something 
>> like what you've described, if the changes prove to be minimal. 
>>
>> For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you 
>> want, tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:
>>
>>
>> *@media (min-width: 
>> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
>> {.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
>> {width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line if 
>> you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
>> height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi JD,
>>>
>>> I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. Unfortunately 
>>> I can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 column view. I 
>>> understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do you intend to add 
>>> support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column view with this 
>>> theme? 
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[twid...@gmail.com]

Two column view also works fine using Material and Mono. 

Emily

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 4:09:00 PM UTC-7 JD wrote:

> Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 
>
> Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate something 
> like what you've described, if the changes prove to be minimal. 
>
> For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you want, 
> tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:
>
>
> *@media (min-width: 
> {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
> {.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
> {width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line if 
> you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
> height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards
>
> -jd
>
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:
>>
>> Hi JD,
>>
>> I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. Unfortunately 
>> I can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 column view. I 
>> understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do you intend to add 
>> support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column view with this 
>> theme? 
>>
>> Emily
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Life Glass]

Hi JD,

Thank you. Here it is: 
https://giffmex.org/stroll/empty.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsq%2FStories

Emily 

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Emily! Thanks for the compliments ^^, 

Can you provide a link to that plugin? I'll try to incorporate something 
like what you've described, if the changes prove to be minimal. 

For a quick hack though, you can create a tiddler with any title you want, 
tag it *$:/tags/Stylesheet *and have its text be:


*@media (min-width: 
{{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/sidebarbreakpoint}}) 
{.tc-story-river {display: flex;flex-wrap: wrap;}.tc-tiddler-frame 
{width: 49% !important;max-height: 35em; /* remove this line if 
you don't want the tiddler height to be clamped, or you can adjust the 
height value */overflow: auto;}} *Stay safe and best regards

-jd


On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 5:47:53 AM UTC+9, Life Glass wrote:
>
> Hi JD,
>
> I love the rounded corners and easy sidebar of this theme. Unfortunately I 
> can't use it with the Stories plugin that provides a 2 column view. I 
> understand that not everyone uses this plugin, but do you intend to add 
> support for it, or have any tips on getting a 2 column view with this 
> theme? 
>
> Emily
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[E Browns]

Hi Danraymond!

Thank you so much for enjoying the theme! ^^,

I updated it to have a config for the sidebar page controls height, and
sidebar top padding to accomodate.

You can add to the sidebar by tagging any tiddler with $:/tags/SideBar

Pre-loaded sidebar tabs, those part of the core, can be searched for in
Advanced Search: prefixed with $:/core/ui/SideBar/

Be wary that the theme has a scrolling bug in later TW versions... I might
get this up to date but I'm not sure when. There are so many plates
spinning.

Please stay safe ^^,

-jd

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 15:34 danraymond,  wrote:

> Hi JD;
>
> This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great
> theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.
>
> I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the
> "remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?
>
> Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows the
> control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the title/subtitle
> are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are covers it up slightly?
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>
>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations,
>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made
>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I
>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving
>> reasons...
>>
>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>
>> Perpetual lurker,
>> JD
>>
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[danraymond]

Hi JD;

This may be too old a thread now. However, Thank you for such a great 
theme. It has made my TW5 use much more fluid.

I have a very dumb question: when I remove a sidebar "card" with the 
"remove from sidebar" button. How do I get it back?

Also, I made the top control buttons area (the hover area that shows the 
control buttons) 50px as I have 2 rows. How can I move the title/subtitle 
are down to accommodate ths change as the hover are covers it up slightly?

Thank you

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 10:36:03 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Alex]

Unfortunately, I've the same issue and I've been digging around in the code 
to see if I can find a solution, unfortunately I cannot trace it. Hoping 
you might have a fix soon! Thanks JD. Love the theme!

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:36:03 PM UTC+8, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Shaxine]

Hello JD,

First of all thank you for the awesome theme!

I'm writing to know if you had the time to fix the mentioned scroll issue.

Thank you once again!

- Shaxine

segunda-feira, 4 de Fevereiro de 2019 às 14:52:53 UTC, JD escreveu:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Thank you! Glad to know they're liked :) 
>
> I see the issue now that I've updated to 5.1.19 (It didn't have this bug 
> on 5.1.17) . I'll look into it and hopefully will have a fix soon.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -jd
>
> On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:00:49 PM UTC+9, Donald Coates wrote:
>>
>> Hello I really love this theme.  I have noticed a very minor annoyance - 
>> when I open a new tiddler, whether to edit or view, the browser goes to the 
>> bottom of the page while the new tiddler opens at the top so that I have to 
>> scroll up to find it.  I may have made some minor tweak to cause it?  
>> Happens in both logged in mode and view only and in chromebook chrome and 
>> android firefox.
>>
>> Take care and again thank you so much for all your plugins and themes.  
>> I'm really enjoying them.
>>
>>
>>
segunda-feira, 4 de Fevereiro de 2019 às 14:52:53 UTC, JD escreveu:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Thank you! Glad to know they're liked :) 
>
> I see the issue now that I've updated to 5.1.19 (It didn't have this bug 
> on 5.1.17) . I'll look into it and hopefully will have a fix soon.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -jd
>
> On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:00:49 PM UTC+9, Donald Coates wrote:
>>
>> Hello I really love this theme.  I have noticed a very minor annoyance - 
>> when I open a new tiddler, whether to edit or view, the browser goes to the 
>> bottom of the page while the new tiddler opens at the top so that I have to 
>> scroll up to find it.  I may have made some minor tweak to cause it?  
>> Happens in both logged in mode and view only and in chromebook chrome and 
>> android firefox.
>>
>> Take care and again thank you so much for all your plugins and themes.  
>> I'm really enjoying them.
>>
>>
>>
segunda-feira, 4 de Fevereiro de 2019 às 14:52:53 UTC, JD escreveu:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Thank you! Glad to know they're liked :) 
>
> I see the issue now that I've updated to 5.1.19 (It didn't have this bug 
> on 5.1.17) . I'll look into it and hopefully will have a fix soon.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -jd
>
> On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:00:49 PM UTC+9, Donald Coates wrote:
>>
>> Hello I really love this theme.  I have noticed a very minor annoyance - 
>> when I open a new tiddler, whether to edit or view, the browser goes to the 
>> bottom of the page while the new tiddler opens at the top so that I have to 
>> scroll up to find it.  I may have made some minor tweak to cause it?  
>> Happens in both logged in mode and view only and in chromebook chrome and 
>> android firefox.
>>
>> Take care and again thank you so much for all your plugins and themes.  
>> I'm really enjoying them.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[HC Haase]

Thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Donald,

Thank you! Glad to know they're liked :) 

I see the issue now that I've updated to 5.1.19 (It didn't have this bug on 
5.1.17) . I'll look into it and hopefully will have a fix soon.

Thanks again!

-jd

On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 9:00:49 PM UTC+9, Donald Coates wrote:
>
> Hello I really love this theme.  I have noticed a very minor annoyance - 
> when I open a new tiddler, whether to edit or view, the browser goes to the 
> bottom of the page while the new tiddler opens at the top so that I have to 
> scroll up to find it.  I may have made some minor tweak to cause it?  
> Happens in both logged in mode and view only and in chromebook chrome and 
> android firefox.
>
> Take care and again thank you so much for all your plugins and themes.  
> I'm really enjoying them.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Donald Coates]

Hello I really love this theme.  I have noticed a very minor annoyance - 
when I open a new tiddler, whether to edit or view, the browser goes to the 
bottom of the page while the new tiddler opens at the top so that I have to 
scroll up to find it.  I may have made some minor tweak to cause it?  
Happens in both logged in mode and view only and in chromebook chrome and 
android firefox.

Take care and again thank you so much for all your plugins and themes.  I'm 
really enjoying them.


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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[E Browns]

Hi HC,

Sorry for the late update, but due to the recent changes to the sidebar
structure I have had to re-release this plugin here:

http://j.d.ntfs19.tiddlyspot.com/

The old one (for TW5.1.18 below) is still available at
http://j.d.ntfs.tiddlyspot.com/

(still haven't the time to update my other stuff, will do that along with
bug reports 😅)

-jd

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 6:01 PM HC Haase  wrote:

> HI
>
> In the newe 5.19 the NTFS plugin don't work any more :(
>
> am I the only one?
>
> @JD could you maybe have a look at it?
> thanks
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Egads

All that work I did this weekend on vertical toc's, when Whitespace was 
what I wanted! If only whitespace had been in the "Sidebar and control 
panel modifications" section of my toolmap. I previously only had it under 
themes. Well, I rectified that so it shows up in the sidebar section too.

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:36:03 AM UTC-5, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[HC Haase]

HI 

In the newe 5.19 the NTFS plugin don't work any more :(

am I the only one?

@JD could you maybe have a look at it? 
thanks

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Abraham, 

Wow, thanks for the compliments! I tweak according to my personal use at 
the moment, I'm glad they're useful to others :D

P.S: I am creating a Github repo to document and make available different 
> versions of TW5. Could I add yours?
>

Sure, no problem!

-jd 

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Abraham Samma]

Hi JD,

I am awestruck. Your theme is by far the best I've seen for TW5. 5/5 I love 
your dedication to treating narrow screen views with the simplicity they 
deserve. Definitely deserves praise.

P.S: I am creating a Github repo to document and make available different 
versions of TW5. Could I add yours?

Regards.

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 3:36:03 PM UTC+3, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi HC,

Thanks for creating a base plugin with this. I've created a demo site for 
it, with some updates, here: 

http://j.d.ntfs.tiddlyspot.com/

Also, as per your suggestion I've added the same functionality to the 
Mobile Layout plugin, it's updated at the demo site:

http://j.d.simplemobile.tiddlyspot.com/  


-jd


On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 6:12:17 PM UTC+9, HC Haase wrote:
>
> and by the way
>
> can this be modified to also wok on the advanced search, so that it would 
> work on your (brilliant) simple mobile layout also?
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Dave,

Well, it looks like there's real interest in this functionality... So while 
it isn't in the core yet, I've turned this into a plugin (with thanks to 
HC): 

Demo here: 

http://j.d.ntfs.tiddlyspot.com/

I've read somewhere that the sidebar would be modularized in the next TW 
update, I'll update this plugin then.

-jd


On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 5:31:04 AM UTC+9, David Gifford wrote:
>
> I want to echo others' sentiments here that the search / create function 
> is a really handy feature.
>
> Having the sidebar be a hover when the tiddlers are expanded is super nice 
> too.
>
> I do agree it would be nice if you or someone would tease out the search / 
> function as a plugin and host it at a specific location so I can link to it 
> from the TiddlyWiki toolmap.
>
> Congrats, and blessings,
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:36:03 AM UTC-5, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>
>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made 
>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
>> reasons... 
>>
>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>
>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>
>> Perpetual lurker, 
>> JD
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[HC Haase]

and by the way

can this be modified to also wok on the advanced search, so that it would 
work on your (brilliant) simple mobile layout also?

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[HC Haase]

>
> I don't know about packaging it as a plugin, but you can use the attached 
> tiddler to replace $:/core/ui/SideBarLists 
>  on a vanilla *TW 
> 5.1.17* to have the same functions ("+" button or "ctrl+space" to create 
> tiddler out of search term). 
>
> You can use difftext preview in edit mode to see the changes I've made to 
> the tiddler. I just added some action widgets and replaced a certain  
> with a <$keyboard> widget for the "ctrl+space" catcher.
>
> -jd
>

Thank you JD, the functionality as a stand alone feature, it was just what 
I was hoping for. I like plugins, otherwise I will completely forget 
what/where all my TW modification is. So I used the TINKA pluging and 
packged your SideBarLists in a plugin :)

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[David Gifford]

I want to echo others' sentiments here that the search / create function is 
a really handy feature.

Having the sidebar be a hover when the tiddlers are expanded is super nice 
too.

I do agree it would be nice if you or someone would tease out the search / 
function as a plugin and host it at a specific location so I can link to it 
from the TiddlyWiki toolmap.

Congrats, and blessings,

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:36:03 AM UTC-5, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mercredi 29 août 2018 11:22:02 UTC+2, HC Haase a écrit :
>
> HI JD
> while it is a nice theme, I´me not in this for the looks. 
>
> But a thing that got me really exited is the *feature to add a new 
> tiddler from the text string entered in the search bar*. This is 
> brilliant!
>
>  * it saves interface space
>  * it simplifies actions and save time
>  
> when adding some information/knowledge to my wiki, most of the time I have 
> to make a search to see if I have a related tiddler that I want to update, 
> or I should make a new one. As I already have entered (roughly) the title 
> of the new tiddler in the search bar, it seems redundant to then create a 
> new tiddler and type the title again. Your solution is elegant, functional 
> and simple. 
>

Me too, I often start by a search before adding new content.
So I open this ticket https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1801 
and Pmario did this plugin : 
https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/new-tiddler-from-search/

But your solution is simple and I like the minimal presentation and save 
space.
 

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Thanks, HC!

Yes, the theme is just me running with a nostalgic idea, and then some. 

You can actually use the keyboard shortcut "ctrl+space", when the searchbar 
has keyboard focus, to trigger the same actions the "+" button does.

Is there a chance you could package that bit into a separate plug in?
>

I don't know about packaging it as a plugin, but you can use the attached 
tiddler to replace $:/core/ui/SideBarLists 
 on a vanilla *TW 
5.1.17* to have the same functions ("+" button or "ctrl+space" to create 
tiddler out of search term). 

You can use difftext preview in edit mode to see the changes I've made to 
the tiddler. I just added some action widgets and replaced a certain  
with a <$keyboard> widget for the "ctrl+space" catcher.

-jd


 

>
> and can I propose to push this feature to the core? I know it doesn't add 
> any new functionality, but IMO it makes TW much more user friendly and 
> efficient in a non intrusive way. 
> I know adding to the core is a sensitive topic for some, but I would argue 
> that this (though a minor thing) will improve how we use TW and would 
> benefit the general user. And if you don't want to use it, it doesn't 
> destroy the normal interface.
>
> Thoughts?
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[HC Haase]

HI JD
while it is a nice theme, I´me not in this for the looks. 

But a thing that got me really exited is the *feature to add a new tiddler 
from the text string entered in the search bar*. This is brilliant!

 * it saves interface space
 * it simplifies actions and save time
 
when adding some information/knowledge to my wiki, most of the time I have 
to make a search to see if I have a related tiddler that I want to update, 
or I should make a new one. As I already have entered (roughly) the title 
of the new tiddler in the search bar, it seems redundant to then create a 
new tiddler and type the title again. Your solution is elegant, functional 
and simple. 

Is there a chance you could package that bit into a separate plug in?

and can I propose to push this feature to the core? I know it doesn't add 
any new functionality, but IMO it makes TW much more user friendly and 
efficient in a non intrusive way. 
I know adding to the core is a sensitive topic for some, but I would argue 
that this (though a minor thing) will improve how we use TW and would 
benefit the general user. And if you don't want to use it, it doesn't 
destroy the normal interface.

Thoughts?

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Mohammad, 

In a future version I'll add an option to disable the hover mode and have 
it simply close and open the sidebar... I don't have much free time as of 
now and can't commit. Thanks for the idea!

-jd


On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 4:14:50 AM UTC+9, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thank you Jed!
>  Great theme! I like the right bar and the design of cards like tools, 
> search and create and ...
>
> Add the small description by Eric in above email as we expect when click 
> on the button sidebar is closed
> but at the same time we need to move mouse away from the sidebar to see 
> the effects.
> I suggest it is better  by clicking the button it closes the sidebar!
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 5:06:03 PM UTC+4:30, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>
>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made 
>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
>> reasons... 
>>
>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>
>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>
>> Perpetual lurker, 
>> JD
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Eric, 

Thanks for the explanation! Can I add your text to the demo?

-jd


On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 11:39:30 PM UTC+9, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:30:59 AM UTC-7, Julio Peña wrote:
>>
>> ...when I press the hamburger button the tiddlers expand but they expand 
>> underneath the left sidebar
>>
>
> This is how it works on Chrome (68.0.3440.106):
>
> Pressing the button changes the sidebar from fixed to hovering, which 
> causes the tiddlers to expand "underneath" the sidebar.  If you then move 
> the mouse away from the sidebar, it automatically closes, exposing the full 
> tiddler content.
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[JD]

Hi Julio,

Thanks for the compliments! I'm glad you got how it works. I should 
probably make the documentation clearer; I suck at explaining things 😅

Please do report if you come across any bug!

-jd

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 11:30:59 PM UTC+9, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> [image: screen_expand_error.jpg]
> Goodmorning (here in the US) to JD and to all:
>
> Oh, wow, loving that theme! Great stuff there congrats!
> About the hamburger issue I tested mine in Water Fox (a FF derivative). 
> And when I press the hamburger button the tiddlers expand but they expand 
> underneath the left sidebar. I put a screen shot so that you can see.
>
> (Edit: Oooops.spoke too soonnow the hover works! Congrats!)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Julio
>
> On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-4, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>>
>> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, 
>> but lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made 
>> a theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
>> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
>> reasons... 
>>
>> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>>
>> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>>
>> Perpetual lurker, 
>> JD
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Mohammad]

Thank you Jed!
 Great theme! I like the right bar and the design of cards like tools, 
search and create and ...

Add the small description by Eric in above email as we expect when click on 
the button sidebar is closed
but at the same time we need to move mouse away from the sidebar to see the 
effects.
I suggest it is better  by clicking the button it closes the sidebar!

Cheers
Mohammad



On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 5:06:03 PM UTC+4:30, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Eric Shulman]

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 7:30:59 AM UTC-7, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> ...when I press the hamburger button the tiddlers expand but they expand 
> underneath the left sidebar
>

This is how it works on Chrome (68.0.3440.106):

Pressing the button changes the sidebar from fixed to hovering, which 
causes the tiddlers to expand "underneath" the sidebar.  If you then move 
the mouse away from the sidebar, it automatically closes, exposing the full 
tiddler content.

-e

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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[Julio Peña]

[image: screen_expand_error.jpg] 
Goodmorning (here in the US) JD to all:

Oh, wow, loving that theme! Great stuff there congrats!
About the hamburger issue I tested mine in Water Fox (a FF derivative). And 
when I press the hamburger button the tiddlers expand but they expand 
underneath the left sidebar. I put a screen shot so that you can see.

Best Regards,

Julio

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 8:36:03 AM UTC-4, JD wrote:
>
> Hello everyone, theming-obsessed JD here,
>
> This might be against the grain of current UI ideas and conversations, but 
> lately I've been nostalgic about a webapp-y kind of design... So I made a 
> theme out of it, for other folks who might be into this sort of style. I 
> don't expect it would be used much, I'm just sharing for archiving 
> reasons... 
>
> Link here: http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>
> Thanks for the inspiring conversations, everyone. I love back-reading ☺️
>
> Perpetual lurker, 
> JD
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[E Browns]

Hi Josiah,

Oh, wow, I used the exact same browsers to test this (got myself a copy of
Firefox just yesterday). Can you describe what happens when you click the
hamburger, then hover on it?

-jd


On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 11:03 PM @TiddlyTweeter 
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> Dear Perpetual Lurker
>
> http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>
> Very neat! Thanks!
>
> (FYI, the hamburger doesn't work as you describe at the moment on either
> FF 52 or Chrome 68 on Windows desktop 64-bit.)
>
> Josiah
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[tw5] Re: Presenting: Whitespace, a negative-spacious, webapp-nostalgic theme

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Dear Perpetual Lurker

http://j.d.whitespace.tiddlyspot.com/
>

Very neat! Thanks! 

(FYI, the hamburger doesn't work as you describe at the moment on either FF 
52 or Chrome 68 on Windows desktop 64-bit.) 

Josiah

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