Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

In my attempts to import enex, the images never came along (even though I 
could see the image data in the enex file). 

As a practical matter, it might be better to export to HTML or MHT and then 
use an Iframe (possibly via a macro) to display the pages inside of TW.

Mark

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:31:05 AM UTC-7, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> I bet that at least 90% of that size it's because the photos. Please, 
> don't include them. A tiddlywiki bigger than 50mb is something close to 
> unusable 

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Danielo Rodríguez]

I bet that at least 90% of that size it's because the photos. Please, don't 
include them. A tiddlywiki bigger than 50mb is something close to unusable 

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Shay Shaked]

As well, much simpler enex files (of say, 10 notes) crash the browser. 

On Sunday, June 4, 2017 at 9:38:24 AM UTC-4, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> This is now an old topic I guess... 
>
> but just FYI I have a huge notebook enex from evernote I'm trying to get 
> into Tiddly Wiki, 3.5 GB to be honest with photos and all. I used Evernote 
> for two years you see. 
> Dragging it over after installing the  plug-in (or using import) simply 
> crashes the browser. I have to reload the wiki. I tried both on my Wiki, 
> which already contains a bunch of plugins, and on an empty.html. I'm using 
> Google Chrome for this on a Windows Machine. I might try with smaller 
> chunks from Evernote. 
>
>
> On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:53:15 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I've posted a patch that will allow modification/creation dates to be 
>> applied. This should make it easier to find imported items in the testing 
>> phase.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:02:46 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> On the new, new pre-release (how do we refer to these sub-releases?) the 
>>> good news is that the internal javascript error no longer appears for 
>>> image-only notes. However, no image appears either. 
>>>
>>> Internally, a tiddler for an image-only note looks like:
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/enml2.dtd";
>>> >>> "image/png"/>
>>>
>>> On tags, its's a real mixed bag. One of the tiddlers came across with 
>>> each tag separated the way it was supposed to. However, in a few others 
>>> with multiple tags, no tag whatsoever was applied -- the original tags were 
>>> disappeared!
>>>
>>> It looks like notes with single tags might come across OK, but more 
>>> testing is needed. 
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Shay Shaked]

This is now an old topic I guess... 

but just FYI I have a huge notebook enex from evernote I'm trying to get 
into Tiddly Wiki, 3.5 GB to be honest with photos and all. I used Evernote 
for two years you see. 
Dragging it over after installing the  plug-in (or using import) simply 
crashes the browser. I have to reload the wiki. I tried both on my Wiki, 
which already contains a bunch of plugins, and on an empty.html. I'm using 
Google Chrome for this on a Windows Machine. I might try with smaller 
chunks from Evernote. 


On Sunday, February 7, 2016 at 2:53:15 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I've posted a patch that will allow modification/creation dates to be 
> applied. This should make it easier to find imported items in the testing 
> phase.
>
> Mark
>
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:02:46 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> On the new, new pre-release (how do we refer to these sub-releases?) the 
>> good news is that the internal javascript error no longer appears for 
>> image-only notes. However, no image appears either. 
>>
>> Internally, a tiddler for an image-only note looks like:
>>
>> 
>> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/enml2.dtd";
>> >> "image/png"/>
>>
>> On tags, its's a real mixed bag. One of the tiddlers came across with 
>> each tag separated the way it was supposed to. However, in a few others 
>> with multiple tags, no tag whatsoever was applied -- the original tags were 
>> disappeared!
>>
>> It looks like notes with single tags might come across OK, but more 
>> testing is needed. 
>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I've posted a patch that will allow modification/creation dates to be 
applied. This should make it easier to find imported items in the testing 
phase.

Mark

On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:02:46 PM UTC-8, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> On the new, new pre-release (how do we refer to these sub-releases?) the 
> good news is that the internal javascript error no longer appears for 
> image-only notes. However, no image appears either. 
>
> Internally, a tiddler for an image-only note looks like:
>
> 
> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/enml2.dtd";
> > "image/png"/>
>
> On tags, its's a real mixed bag. One of the tiddlers came across with each 
> tag separated the way it was supposed to. However, in a few others with 
> multiple tags, no tag whatsoever was applied -- the original tags were 
> disappeared!
>
> It looks like notes with single tags might come across OK, but more 
> testing is needed. 
>
>

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi again,

On the new, new pre-release (how do we refer to these sub-releases?) the 
good news is that the internal javascript error no longer appears for 
image-only notes. However, no image appears either. 

Internally, a tiddler for an image-only note looks like:


http://xml.evernote.com/pub/enml2.dtd";
>

On tags, its's a real mixed bag. One of the tiddlers came across with each 
tag separated the way it was supposed to. However, in a few others with 
multiple tags, no tag whatsoever was applied -- the original tags were 
disappeared!

It looks like notes with single tags might come across OK, but more testing 
is needed. 

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's a couple more observations. 

Tried using Matabele's file "Drew's grep tutorial".  It turns out that 
internally the title is a url. After importing, I can't reach the actual 
tiddler because the title is a url and clicking on it brings me to the 
original (external) page. I'm guessing that in cases where the title is a 
url the code needs to strip out the http:// so that it's possible to click 
through to the tiddler.

Which brings me to something else.

Something must be going on with the date stamping. None of the imported 
articles are showing up in the "recent" list. It could be using some 
internal stamp, but I know that at least one of the articles I used was 
created in the last month. The "recent" list goes back to June 2015, so I 
should be able to see at least my articles.

Mark

On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 3:12:38 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
>
> Not to worry, that’s very helpful. I’ve uploaded an update, please give it 
> a try,
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2016, at 22:59, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> D'oh! Maybe let's just ignore my prior reports.
>
> Now importing text-only files works pretty well except that items with 
> multiple tags have the tags joined together. So "Android" and "2016" 
> becomes a single tag "2016,Android".
>
> Image-only notes however invoke the Internal Javascript Red Box-o-doom 
> with the message "TypeError: noteNode.querySelector(...) is null"
>
> I haven't tried mixed text / image yet.
>
> HTH
> Mark
>
>
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> It works for me in Firefox for Mac.
>>
>> Is the plugin showing up in control panel? You're using the index.html 
>> itself, not empty.html?
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy 
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>>
>>
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 21:26, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Jeremy,
>>
>> EN automatically exports with the .enex extension, so, yes, all the files 
>> had the enex extension.
>>
>> I dragged and dropped them.
>>
>> Firefox 33 and Pale Moon (a FF fork)  25.8.1  on windows 7.
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:50:10 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mark
>>>
>>> Did you rename the file to have the .enex extension?
>>>
>>> How did you import the enex files?
>>>
>>> What browser and operating system are you using?
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 20:31, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jeremy
>>>
>>> I tried it (5.1.12 pre release)  with enex containing two notes that 
>>> were text only and another enex containing two notes that were image only.
>>>
>>> In both cases, it brought the notes in as ONE tiddler, with the type 
>>> "application/enex+xml". I had the impression from reading the plugin code 
>>> that the objective was to have it marked as text/html, so not sure about 
>>> that. It looks like basically the contents of the enex file were just 
>>> dumped into the tiddler and marked as  application/enex+xml.
>>>
>>> The top of the tiddler looks like this
>>>
>>> 
>>> >> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/evernote-export.dtd";>
>>> >> version="4.x">
>>> Storage Options

Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

Not to worry, that’s very helpful. I’ve uploaded an update, please give it a 
try,

Many thanks,

Jeremy.


> On 5 Feb 2016, at 22:59, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>  wrote:
> 
> D'oh! Maybe let's just ignore my prior reports.
> 
> Now importing text-only files works pretty well except that items with 
> multiple tags have the tags joined together. So "Android" and "2016" becomes 
> a single tag "2016,Android".
> 
> Image-only notes however invoke the Internal Javascript Red Box-o-doom with 
> the message "TypeError: noteNode.querySelector(...) is null"
> 
> I haven't tried mixed text / image yet.
> 
> HTH
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> It works for me in Firefox for Mac.
> 
> Is the plugin showing up in control panel? You're using the index.html 
> itself, not empty.html?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy 
> 
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> 
> 
> On 5 Feb 2016, at 21:26, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki  > wrote:
> 
>> HI Jeremy,
>> 
>> EN automatically exports with the .enex extension, so, yes, all the files 
>> had the enex extension.
>> 
>> I dragged and dropped them.
>> 
>> Firefox 33 and Pale Moon (a FF fork)  25.8.1  on windows 7.
>> 
>> HTH
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:50:10 PM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> Did you rename the file to have the .enex extension?
>> 
>> How did you import the enex files?
>> 
>> What browser and operating system are you using?
>> 
>> Many thanks
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 20:31, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki > <>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Jeremy
>>> 
>>> I tried it (5.1.12 pre release)  with enex containing two notes that were 
>>> text only and another enex containing two notes that were image only.
>>> 
>>> In both cases, it brought the notes in as ONE tiddler, with the type 
>>> "application/enex+xml". I had the impression from reading the plugin code 
>>> that the objective was to have it marked as text/html, so not sure about 
>>> that. It looks like basically the contents of the enex file were just 
>>> dumped into the tiddler and marked as  application/enex+xml.
>>> 
>>> The top of the tiddler looks like this
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://xml.evernote.com/pub/evernote-export.dtd 
>>> ">
>>> >> version="4.x">
>>> Storage Options

Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Jeremy Ruston]

I’ve made a start on a simple plugin to allow the import of Evernote notebooks.

The ticket describing the work is here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2268

The code is here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/plugins/tiddlywiki/evernote
 


I think that the importing of notes as HTML tiddlers now works. I’ll shortly 
push a commit with support for images attached to notes (the linkages won’t 
work just yet).

I’ve two requests:

Firstly, it would be incredibly useful if any Evernote users could use the app 
to create us some more complex sample ENEX files. I’ve only got a simple sample 
file with a single note and a single image. You can attach files to posts here 
on the group.

Secondly, as discussed in the above ticket, I’m appealing for a JavaScript 
developer take the lead with this plugin. Jed’s expressed an interest but 
points out that he is not an Evernote user.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



> On 4 Feb 2016, at 11:01, Jed Carty  wrote:
> 
> Can you post some example .enex files? I use linux so there isn't a desktop 
> version of the client for me and I can't figure out how to export from the 
> web interface. I can't promise I will spend much time on it, but I think that 
> making this could help with importing other file types as well.
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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Mat]

Via this blogpost I fond teh 
following which is supposedly a enex to json converter;

https://github.com/claytron/ever2simple

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Ray

> Thanks Jermey, but ehhhr how should i proceed?
> Ofc i can export to ENEX... but then?? ;-)

Apologies for not being clear. 

There is currently no capability to import ENEX files into TiddlyWiki.

I meant that a TiddlyWiki developer could write some code to do the conversion. 
It would need experience with doing JavaScript development in TiddlyWiki if it 
were done as a TW plugin, but literally anyone could make a program that reads 
an ENEX file and generates a JSON file in a format that TiddlyWiki would 
understand.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ray
> 
> 2016-02-02 19:01 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Ruston  >:
> Hi Ray
> 
> It turns out that there is a fairly usable export file format for Evernote 
> called ENEX:
> 
> https://blog.evernote.com/tech/2013/08/08/evernote-export-format-enex/ 
> 
> 
> Here’s an example:
> 
> https://gist.github.com/evernotegists/6116886 
> 
> 
> It looks to me as though it would be pretty easy to create a deserialiser 
> that processed these files into individual tiddlers. (I’ve actually recently 
> added a plugin that provides an XML parser for Node.js, one of the otherwise 
> missing pieces). I’d be happy to help anyone who wants to pick it up.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:39, Jed Carty > > wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't like Evernote so I stopped using it after a day or two so I can't 
>> guarantee any of this, but it looks like it is possible.
>> 
>> You would export all of your notes, it looks like you can do this to html or 
>> to xml. You could then create a converter to change these into a tiddlywiki 
>> friendly format. Either to .tid files or some sort of bundle file (JSON 
>> would probably be best)
>> 
>>  I would need to see some actual files to give anything more specific.
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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Ray Vermey]

Thanks Jermey, but ehhhr how should i proceed?
Ofc i can export to ENEX... but then?? ;-)

Thanks

Ray

2016-02-02 19:01 GMT+01:00 Jeremy Ruston :

> Hi Ray
>
> It turns out that there is a fairly usable export file format for Evernote
> called ENEX:
>
> https://blog.evernote.com/tech/2013/08/08/evernote-export-format-enex/
>
> Here’s an example:
>
> https://gist.github.com/evernotegists/6116886
>
> It looks to me as though it would be pretty easy to create a deserialiser
> that processed these files into individual tiddlers. (I’ve actually
> recently added a plugin that provides an XML parser for Node.js, one of the
> otherwise missing pieces). I’d be happy to help anyone who wants to pick it
> up.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:39, Jed Carty  wrote:
>
> I didn't like Evernote so I stopped using it after a day or two so I can't
> guarantee any of this, but it looks like it is possible.
>
> You would export all of your notes, it looks like you can do this to html
> or to xml. You could then create a converter to change these into a
> tiddlywiki friendly format. Either to .tid files or some sort of bundle
> file (JSON would probably be best)
>
>  I would need to see some actual files to give anything more specific.
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Re: [tw] Export Evernote to TW

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Ray

It turns out that there is a fairly usable export file format for Evernote 
called ENEX:

https://blog.evernote.com/tech/2013/08/08/evernote-export-format-enex/

Here’s an example:

https://gist.github.com/evernotegists/6116886

It looks to me as though it would be pretty easy to create a deserialiser that 
processed these files into individual tiddlers. (I’ve actually recently added a 
plugin that provides an XML parser for Node.js, one of the otherwise missing 
pieces). I’d be happy to help anyone who wants to pick it up.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


> On 2 Feb 2016, at 11:39, Jed Carty  wrote:
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> I didn't like Evernote so I stopped using it after a day or two so I can't 
> guarantee any of this, but it looks like it is possible.
> 
> You would export all of your notes, it looks like you can do this to html or 
> to xml. You could then create a converter to change these into a tiddlywiki 
> friendly format. Either to .tid files or some sort of bundle file (JSON would 
> probably be best)
> 
>  I would need to see some actual files to give anything more specific.
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