Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddlytoold Tooltip CoreTweak
Hello Jan, you're welcome! Hope this configurability is not like mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schießen[1] ;) And thank you for your kind wishes. Albert [1] for non-Germans: http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/mit_Kanonen_auf_Spatzen_schie%C3%9Fen 2014-05-24 1:22 GMT+02:00 Jan Johannpeter lasjoht...@gmail.com: Hello Albert. Wow, it took me a while to understand all these new possibilities. It is really highly configurable. Thanks a lot... Jan P.S. My best wishes for the great event to come. Am 23.05.2014 13:06, schrieb Albert Riedinger: Hello Jan, I had a bit of time yesterday so I have updated the plugin[1]. This version is a work-in-progress snapshot, so there are bugs and some parts have to be rewritten for a better performance. I don't have the time to write a documentation but I think you will get how to use it (cf. configuration tiddler[2]). More to come, if I have more time ... Have fun! Albert [1] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipPlugin [2] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipConfig Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2014 00:23:13 UTC+2 schrieb Jan: Hallo Albert Now I realized the wonderful checkboxes... brilliant work... Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddlytoold Tooltip CoreTweak
Hello Albert, I really don't think these options are exaggerated, for in the end the syntax is easy is very logical. I think it makes sense to be able to configure the tooltip, because the thing you want to know before opening a tiddler may differ very much according to the use-case of the TW. For a journal-style-use-scenario the standart was perfect, for this information was not important, an I am very happy to be able to show the Tags now. It ist perfect that your plugin allows to say which section or slice is most important. If you find the time ...( I know you'll be busy the next days;-) it would be nice to be able do define Fallback-information: What is shown if the for example a tooltip field/slice does not exist yet. This would allow to keep the tolltip much smaller. Again thanks a lot and best wishes.. Jan Am 24.05.2014 09:42, schrieb Albert Riedinger: Hello Jan, you're welcome! Hope this configurability is not like mit Kanonen auf Spatzen schießen[1] ;) And thank you for your kind wishes. Albert [1] for non-Germans: http://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/mit_Kanonen_auf_Spatzen_schie%C3%9Fen 2014-05-24 1:22 GMT+02:00 Jan Johannpeter lasjoht...@gmail.com mailto:lasjoht...@gmail.com: Hello Albert. Wow, it took me a while to understand all these new possibilities. It is really highly configurable. Thanks a lot... Jan P.S. My best wishes for the great event to come. Am 23.05.2014 13:06, schrieb Albert Riedinger: Hello Jan, I had a bit of time yesterday so I have updated the plugin[1]. This version is a work-in-progress snapshot, so there are bugs and some parts have to be rewritten for a better performance. I don't have the time to write a documentation but I think you will get how to use it (cf. configuration tiddler[2]). More to come, if I have more time ... Have fun! Albert [1] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipPlugin [2] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipConfig Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2014 00:23:13 UTC+2 schrieb Jan: Hallo Albert Now I realized the wonderful checkboxes... brilliant work... Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddlytoold Tooltip CoreTweak
Hello Albert. Wow, it took me a while to understand all these new possibilities. It is really highly configurable. Thanks a lot... Jan P.S. My best wishes for the great event to come. Am 23.05.2014 13:06, schrieb Albert Riedinger: Hello Jan, I had a bit of time yesterday so I have updated the plugin[1]. This version is a work-in-progress snapshot, so there are bugs and some parts have to be rewritten for a better performance. I don't have the time to write a documentation but I think you will get how to use it (cf. configuration tiddler[2]). More to come, if I have more time ... Have fun! Albert [1] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipPlugin [2] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipConfig Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2014 00:23:13 UTC+2 schrieb Jan: Hallo Albert Now I realized the wonderful checkboxes... brilliant work... Jan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddlytoold Tooltip CoreTweak
Hello Jan,
I just published a very early version of CustomTooltipPlugin[1] which I
would extend with more features in near future. This release is more
oriented on your specific needs. Currently I'm very busy, so it would take
some time.
Upcoming features could be:
* implementing features from CoreTweaks with extended syntax (more
parameters and format options)
* tag and field dependent tooltip contents (defined in a separate config
tiddler)
* ... any ideas? ...
Hope you like it!
Albert
[1] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipPlugin
Am Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014 15:38:44 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:
This works really great!
And your suggestion to use a field is even better. I just did not dare to
ask for this.
The hidden slice in the textfield is a little disturbing for Users not
used to the syntax.
I think it would be helpful for a lot of people, if you could publish what
you described as a ToolTipTweakPlugin.
Again thanks a lot
Jan
Am 18.05.2014 12:12, schrieb Albert Riedinger:
Hi Jan,
the following snippet should do what you are after:
//{{{
Tiddler.prototype.TWCore_getSubtitle = Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle;
Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle = function() {
var desc = store.getTiddlerSlice(this.title, tooltip);
if (!!desc) {
return desc;
} else {
var tags = store.getTiddler(this.title).getTags();
var tagList = tags.readBracketedList().join(, );
return Tags: + tagList;
}
};
//}}}
One suggestion: Maybe it would be better not to define tooltips with
hidden slices but with a custom field which could be edited in edit mode
(EditTemplate)? If you like, I could rewrite this snippet to support both
options slice and custom field (both named tooltip)?
Have fun,
Albert
Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2014 21:44:15 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:
Hello all!
I found a part of the solution for my tooltip-problem:
Searching through the Archive of this group I found a solution for the
problem of changing the tooltip by a defined slice stored in each Tiddler
posted by Eric some time ago:
1) Put the following javascript code into a tiddler, tagged with
systemConfig, then save-and-reload your document
//{{{
Tiddler.prototype.TWCore_getSubtitle=Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle;
Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle = function() {
return store.getTiddlerSlice(this.title,'tooltip')||this.
TWCore_getSubtitle();
};
//}}}
2) To override the default tooltip for a given tiddler, add a
tooltip: slice entry into that tiddler's text, like this:
/%
tooltip: this is the custom text
%/
Note the use of /% and %/ comment markers surrounding the slice
definition. This prevents the embedded slice definition from being
displayed in the tiddler output.
*My question now **is:*
*How can I modify this Code to show the Tags, if there is no
tooltip-slice yet?*
Thanks a lot for help
Jan
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Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddlytoold Tooltip CoreTweak
Hallo Albert,
Works wonderful. It is nice that it helps to avoid a distracting hidden
slice in every tiddler.
If I am invitited to I would very much like to formulate my desires for
further development.
Here are my ideas for configuration.
In a tooltip field in each tiddler:
I would guess that if the tooltipfield has a content, it is very
probable that most users will want this to be shown in first place.
It would be nice if it was possible to define with a plus (+) in this
tooltipfield whether the fallback-tooltip shall be shown an whether it
shall be shown before or after the tooltipFieldContent. This would
override the settings in the Plugin-tiddler.
In the plugin tiddler.
It would be nice if you could configure here, what the
fallback-tooltip looks like if there is no special field.
I think Eric's CoreTweaks approach was quite perfect here, except for
the lack of the possibility to show the tags...
It would be nice to be able to configure a no tooltip list of tags,
that should not be shown as tooltip, because they're just disturbing.
Thanks a lot for a lot of work
Yours Jan
Am 19.05.2014 10:37, schrieb Albert Riedinger:
Hello Jan,
I just published a very early version of CustomTooltipPlugin[1] which
I would extend with more features in near future. This release is more
oriented on your specific needs. Currently I'm very busy, so it would
take some time.
Upcoming features could be:
* implementing features from CoreTweaks with extended syntax (more
parameters and format options)
* tag and field dependent tooltip contents (defined in a separate
config tiddler)
* ... any ideas? ...
Hope you like it!
Albert
[1] http://customtooltip.tiddlyspace.com/#CustomTooltipPlugin
Am Sonntag, 18. Mai 2014 15:38:44 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:
This works really great!
And your suggestion to use a field is even better. I just did not
dare to ask for this.
The hidden slice in the textfield is a little disturbing for Users
not used to the syntax.
I think it would be helpful for a lot of people, if you could
publish what you described as a ToolTipTweakPlugin.
Again thanks a lot
Jan
Am 18.05.2014 12:12, schrieb Albert Riedinger:
Hi Jan,
the following snippet should do what you are after:
|
//{{{
Tiddler.prototype.TWCore_getSubtitle=Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle;
Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle =function(){
vardesc =store.getTiddlerSlice(this.title,tooltip);
if(!!desc){
returndesc;
}else{
vartags =store.getTiddler(this.title).getTags();
vartagList =tags.readBracketedList().join(, );
returnTags: +tagList;
}
};
//}}}
|
One suggestion: Maybe it would be better not to define tooltips
with hidden slices but with a custom field which could be edited
in edit mode (EditTemplate)? If you like, I could rewrite this
snippet to support both options slice and custom field (both
named tooltip)?
Have fun,
Albert
Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2014 21:44:15 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:
Hello all!
I found a part of the solution for my tooltip-problem:
Searching through the Archive of this group I found a
solution for the problem of changing the tooltip by a defined
slice stored in each Tiddler posted by Eric some time ago:
1) Put the following javascript code into a tiddler, tagged
with systemConfig, then save-and-reload your document
|
//{{{
Tiddler.prototype.TWCore_getSubtitle=Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle;
Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle =function(){
returnstore.getTiddlerSlice(this.title,'tooltip')||this.TWCore_getSubtitle();
};
//}}}
|
2) To override the default tooltip for a given tiddler, add a
tooltip: slice entry into that tiddler's text, like this:
|
/%
tooltip: this is the custom text
%/
|
Note the use of /% and %/ comment markers surrounding the
slice definition. This prevents the embedded slice
definition from being displayed in the tiddler output.
*My question now **is:**
**How can I modify this Code to show the Tags, if there is no
tooltip-slice yet?*
Thanks a lot for help
Jan
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Re: [tw] Re: [TWC] Tiddlytoold Tooltip CoreTweak
Thank you Albert!
This works really great!
And your suggestion to use a field is even better. I just did not dare
to ask for this.
The hidden slice in the textfield is a little disturbing for Users not
used to the syntax.
I think it would be helpful for a lot of people, if you could publish
what you described as a ToolTipTweakPlugin.
Again thanks a lot
Jan
Am 18.05.2014 12:12, schrieb Albert Riedinger:
Hi Jan,
the following snippet should do what you are after:
|
//{{{
Tiddler.prototype.TWCore_getSubtitle=Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle;
Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle =function(){
vardesc =store.getTiddlerSlice(this.title,tooltip);
if(!!desc){
returndesc;
}else{
vartags =store.getTiddler(this.title).getTags();
vartagList =tags.readBracketedList().join(, );
returnTags: +tagList;
}
};
//}}}
|
One suggestion: Maybe it would be better not to define tooltips with
hidden slices but with a custom field which could be edited in edit
mode (EditTemplate)? If you like, I could rewrite this snippet to
support both options slice and custom field (both named tooltip)?
Have fun,
Albert
Am Samstag, 17. Mai 2014 21:44:15 UTC+2 schrieb Jan:
Hello all!
I found a part of the solution for my tooltip-problem:
Searching through the Archive of this group I found a solution for
the problem of changing the tooltip by a defined slice stored in
each Tiddler posted by Eric some time ago:
1) Put the following javascript code into a tiddler, tagged with
systemConfig, then save-and-reload your document
|
//{{{
Tiddler.prototype.TWCore_getSubtitle=Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle;
Tiddler.prototype.getSubtitle =function(){
returnstore.getTiddlerSlice(this.title,'tooltip')||this.TWCore_getSubtitle();
};
//}}}
|
2) To override the default tooltip for a given tiddler, add a
tooltip: slice entry into that tiddler's text, like this:
|
/%
tooltip: this is the custom text
%/
|
Note the use of /% and %/ comment markers surrounding the slice
definition. This prevents the embedded slice definition from
being displayed in the tiddler output.
*My question now **is:**
**How can I modify this Code to show the Tags, if there is no
tooltip-slice yet?*
Thanks a lot for help
Jan
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