Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-15 Thread Peter Miller
While appreciating that having large audio clips embedded in TiddlyWiki is 
not sensible, curiosity drives me to ask whether anyone has explored the 
possibility of recording audio inside TiddlyWiki?

Best wishes

Peter

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:31:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Miller wrote:

 Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion 
 to the same file that Richard Smith used (see above). 

 I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from 
 tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the 
 file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously 
 imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio 
 tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not 
 obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised 
 as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a 
 25 second clip, import and play it without problems.

 Best wishes

 Peter

 On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Peter

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller pmi...@liv.ac.uk wrote:

 I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
 mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
 shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is 
 disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students 
 during grading.


 I'm not familiar with moo files, can you provide a reference? Do other 
 audio file formats work as expected?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

  



 On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:

 How may I embed audio in a tiddler?

 Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:

 Embedded Audio

 Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. Embedding isn't suitable for 
 large files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size 
 of 
 the TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki file.

 For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki.mp3 contains an MP3 recording of 
 the word TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. If you 
 visit that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the 
 recording.

 but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how 
 to embed audio.

 Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-15 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Peter

 Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously imported moo.mp3 file
shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio tiddler from tiddlywiki.com
though it still refuses to play though not obviously disabled.

That's weird, can you reproduce that behaviour?

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Peter Miller pmil...@liv.ac.uk wrote:

 While appreciating that having large audio clips embedded in TiddlyWiki is
 not sensible, curiosity drives me to ask whether anyone has explored the
 possibility of recording audio inside TiddlyWiki?


There are JavaScript APIs in the browser for recording audio but annoyingly
they produce an uncompressed stream (just like a .WAV file), and so are
many times larger than an MP3 file.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



 Best wishes

 Peter


 On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:31:22 PM UTC+1, Peter Miller wrote:

 Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion
 to the same file that Richard Smith used (see above).

 I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from
 tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the
 file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously
 imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio
 tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not
 obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised
 as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a
 25 second clip, import and play it without problems.

 Best wishes

 Peter

 On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Peter

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller pmi...@liv.ac.uk wrote:

 I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as
 mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler
 shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is
 disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students
 during grading.


 I'm not familiar with moo files, can you provide a reference? Do other
 audio file formats work as expected?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.





 On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:

 How may I embed audio in a tiddler?

 Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:

 Embedded Audio

 Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. Embedding isn't suitable for
 large files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size 
 of
 the TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki file.

 For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki.mp3 contains an MP3 recording of
 the word TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. If you
 visit that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the
 recording.

 but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say
 how to embed audio.

 Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-14 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Peter

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller pmil...@liv.ac.uk wrote:

 I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as
 mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler
 shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is
 disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students
 during grading.


I'm not familiar with moo files, can you provide a reference? Do other
audio file formats work as expected?

Best wishes

Jeremy.





 On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:

 How may I embed audio in a tiddler?

 Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:

 Embedded Audio

 Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. Embedding isn't suitable for large
 files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the
 TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki file.

 For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki.mp3 contains an MP3 recording of the
 word TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. If you visit that
 tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the recording.

 but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how
 to embed audio.

 Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: Embedding audio

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Miller
Apologies, Jeremy, but that was just my referring in abbreviated fashion to 
the same file that Richard Smith used (see above). 

I have played around a little more. The TiddlyWiki.mp3 file from 
tiddlywiki.com works fine after transclusion; the widget appears and the 
file plays as expected. Somewhat bizarrely, the widget for the previously 
imported moo.mp3 file shows up as soon as you drag-and-drop the Audio 
tiddler from tiddlywiki.com though it still refuses to play though not 
obviously disabled. The wav and ogg formats do not appear to be recognised 
as audio. What works like a charm, however, is m4a format. I can record a 
25 second clip, import and play it without problems.

Best wishes

Peter

On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:23:33 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Peter

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Peter Miller pmi...@liv.ac.uk 
 javascript: wrote:

 I'm having issues with embedded audio using the moo file (shows as 
 mpeg/audio) in a fresh 5.1.8 wiki in both Firefox (transcluded tiddler 
 shows brief flash of html5 widget) and Chrome (widget appears but audio is 
 disabled). Win 8.1. Use case is providing brief audio feedback to students 
 during grading.


 I'm not familiar with moo files, can you provide a reference? Do other 
 audio file formats work as expected?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.

  



 On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 4:45:39 PM UTC, Chris Jordan wrote:

 How may I embed audio in a tiddler?

 Getting Started http://i.imgur.com/XZrn5M6.png says:

 Embedded Audio

 Small audio files can be embedded directly within TiddlyWiki 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. Embedding isn't suitable for large 
 files (over a few hundred kilobytes) because it increases the size of the 
 TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki file.

 For example, the tiddler TiddlyWiki.mp3 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki.mp3 contains an MP3 recording of 
 the word TiddlyWiki http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWiki. If you visit 
 that tiddler, you should see an audio player that will play back the 
 recording.

 but ever the example there of embedding audio fails to actually say how 
 to embed audio.

 Thanks.

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