Re: [tw5] Re: Links vs Tiddlers

[Darth Mole]

Hi @Télumire,

Can you explain a bit more by what you mean regarding fields? Like do you 
mean having a form you fill out that then creates a formatted tiddler or 
something else?

Right now I drag the highlighted url text into my TiddlyWiki for an import, 
renaming it before I hit import. And then I click on the imported tiddler 
link and edit it with the proper tag(s) and description/notes/explanation. 

Thanks for your initial idea and hopefully your reply :)

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On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 3:03:36 PM UTC-4 Télumire wrote:

> Hi @Victor, 
>
> Personally, I create a tiddler for each bookmark. When I have several 
> similar urls to save, for example a list of online IDE, then I create only 
> one tiddler for the list. This way it reduces clutter but still allows me 
> to tag and filter each link.
>
> Here's my wiki : vaforis.github.io
>
> Currently it has over 600 tiddlers and I didn't notice any lags. Each 
> tiddler has a link and a quick description of the url. 
> I created it a while ago, so this is not very efficient .. if I wanted to 
> redo it, I'd use fields to set the content and use a template to display 
> the content, it would probably shave off quite a bit of space.
>
> Le mar. 22 juin 2021 à 16:37, Victor Dorneanu  a écrit :
>
>> > *If you are asking if the above approach (an individual tiddler per 
>> link with summary pages) is better or worse than a manual page with a bunch 
>> of links you update as you find them then I would say, based on 
>> consideration for the workflow involved, quality of life interaction/steps, 
>> and also the fact that many users here have stated they have massive 
>> tiddlywiki's with little performance hit, that I would stick with what you 
>> have and not be too concern with the size.*
>>
>> That's exactly what I'm asking for. I think it should concern to much 
>> about the size.  
>>
>> > *But if i consider these resources important enough to hold a place in 
>> my Digital Garden (having presumably read or at least skimmed the 
>> articles), then i typically have something more to say about them.*
>>
>> Exactly! I also use to annotate my bookmarks; at least I have a small 
>> note there. Just having a link there has no value for me. 
>>
>> > *In light of your recent article on Note Taking in 2021 
>>  (excellent piece, 
>> b/t/w, what really set my own wheels turning 
>> , along with a good 
>> few others), i don't guess i'm telling you anything new, Victor... But 
>> anyway: thanks again for sparking a bit more introspection into this 
>> process i too often run, but still don't think critically enough about!*
>>
>> Thank you very much! I'm planning to add more posts regarding my 
>> workflow. 
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote:
>>
>>> Hey @Victor: That's a good question- simple, but profound- one that all 
>>> of us here must answer for ourselves some non-zero number of times most 
>>> days.
>>>
>>> The answer to this for me is a followup Q: What version of my future 
>>> self (i.e. in what context) do i imagine would find this resource to be 
>>> most useful?  
>>> If the answer to that Q comes to me easily enough, then tiddler content 
>>> -description, crossref link(s), tag(s)- then the NoteMaking tends to flow 
>>> quite naturally.  
>>>
>>> If OTOH it does not... Well then i've got yet another note w/ a set of 
>>> links that i may very likely never bother to click.  Take for example your 
>>> note on 4-Day Work Week , 
>>> which links to one canonical definition from Wikipedia, and two articles on 
>>> the topic that i know nothing about beyond the title, where it was 
>>> published, and possibly when (date is URL-encoded on one link, but not on 
>>> the other).  If i'm only interested in the simplest form of NoteTaking 
>>> -i.e. resource curation, the Librarian role- then maybe that serves the 
>>> need.  But if i consider these resources important enough to hold a place 
>>> in my Digital Garden (having presumably read or at least skimmed the 
>>> articles), then i typically have something more to say about them.
>>>
>>> In light of your recent article on Note Taking in 2021 
>>>  (excellent piece, b/t/w, 
>>> what really set my own wheels turning 
>>> , along with a 
>>> good few others), i don't guess i'm telling you anything new, Victor... But 
>>> anyway: thanks again for sparking a bit more introspection into this 
>>> process i too often run, but still don't think critically enough about!
>>>
>>> /walt
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:22:29 AM UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 since I was not able to find such a thread, I've decided to create a 
 new one. I just want to read your opinions when it's better to just have 
 links (in

Re: [tw5] Re: Links vs Tiddlers

[John D]

Hi @Victor,

Personally, I create a tiddler for each bookmark. When I have several
similar urls to save, for example a list of online IDE, then I create only
one tiddler for the list. This way it reduces clutter but still allows me
to tag and filter each link.

Here's my wiki : vaforis.github.io

Currently it has over 600 tiddlers and I didn't notice any lags. Each
tiddler has a link and a quick description of the url.
I created it a while ago, so this is not very efficient .. if I wanted to
redo it, I'd use fields to set the content and use a template to display
the content, it would probably shave off quite a bit of space.

Le mar. 22 juin 2021 à 16:37, Victor Dorneanu  a écrit :

> > *If you are asking if the above approach (an individual tiddler per
> link with summary pages) is better or worse than a manual page with a bunch
> of links you update as you find them then I would say, based on
> consideration for the workflow involved, quality of life interaction/steps,
> and also the fact that many users here have stated they have massive
> tiddlywiki's with little performance hit, that I would stick with what you
> have and not be too concern with the size.*
>
> That's exactly what I'm asking for. I think it should concern to much
> about the size.
>
> > *But if i consider these resources important enough to hold a place in
> my Digital Garden (having presumably read or at least skimmed the
> articles), then i typically have something more to say about them.*
>
> Exactly! I also use to annotate my bookmarks; at least I have a small note
> there. Just having a link there has no value for me.
>
> > *In light of your recent article on Note Taking in 2021
>  (excellent piece,
> b/t/w, what really set my own wheels turning
> , along with a good
> few others), i don't guess i'm telling you anything new, Victor... But
> anyway: thanks again for sparking a bit more introspection into this
> process i too often run, but still don't think critically enough about!*
>
> Thank you very much! I'm planning to add more posts regarding my workflow.
> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 3:11:11 PM UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote:
>
>> Hey @Victor: That's a good question- simple, but profound- one that all
>> of us here must answer for ourselves some non-zero number of times most
>> days.
>>
>> The answer to this for me is a followup Q: What version of my future self
>> (i.e. in what context) do i imagine would find this resource to be most
>> useful?
>> If the answer to that Q comes to me easily enough, then tiddler content
>> -description, crossref link(s), tag(s)- then the NoteMaking tends to flow
>> quite naturally.
>>
>> If OTOH it does not... Well then i've got yet another note w/ a set of
>> links that i may very likely never bother to click.  Take for example your
>> note on 4-Day Work Week ,
>> which links to one canonical definition from Wikipedia, and two articles on
>> the topic that i know nothing about beyond the title, where it was
>> published, and possibly when (date is URL-encoded on one link, but not on
>> the other).  If i'm only interested in the simplest form of NoteTaking
>> -i.e. resource curation, the Librarian role- then maybe that serves the
>> need.  But if i consider these resources important enough to hold a place
>> in my Digital Garden (having presumably read or at least skimmed the
>> articles), then i typically have something more to say about them.
>>
>> In light of your recent article on Note Taking in 2021
>>  (excellent piece, b/t/w,
>> what really set my own wheels turning
>> , along with a
>> good few others), i don't guess i'm telling you anything new, Victor... But
>> anyway: thanks again for sparking a bit more introspection into this
>> process i too often run, but still don't think critically enough about!
>>
>> /walt
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021 at 11:22:29 AM UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> since I was not able to find such a thread, I've decided to create a new
>>> one. I just want to read your opinions when it's better to just have links
>>> (inside a tiddler) and when one should create tiddlers for them (as
>>> bookmarks).
>>>
>>> I'll try to describe my current problem. At the moment I use this
>>> Bookmarks plugin
>>>  to
>>> organize my bookmarks. Examples:
>>>
>>>- List of bookmarks for Tiddlywiki 
>>>- List of bookmarks for Golang 
>>>
>>> As I discover more sites/resources I'd add them as a bookmark and
>>> they'll be automatically listed on those pages. However, doing so will also
>>> increase the size of my Tiddlywiki instance. I use nodeJS and call 
>>> *tiddlywiki
>>> tw5 --build