Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[TiddlyTweeter]

Mark wrote:

> I've  put ... [the] Shiraz framework to good use to develop a *visual 
> map of library resources* for new students: 
> https://www.pacifica.edu/wp-content/content/lib/searchkit/dja.html
>

Mark, a side note ... 

Whoa! That is seriously useful! And nicely designed.

FWIW, I have had a long term interest in  Jungian analysis and Jung's 
appropriations of Alchemical Symbolism to better map the transmogrification 
of the "Self".

Your tool, very quickly, let me find important resources relevant to that 
interest.

In short, a great research tool!

Best wishes
TT

  

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Mark,
 Thank you for updating and sharing all that great stuff!
 I am really happy to hear Shiraz is helpful in your workflow!
Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:19 PM Mark  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Unfortunately, the full-text essay links are to a password protected ebook
> collection as Jung's *Collected Works* are still protected by copyright.
>
> However, thanks for pointing out the pdflink macro as I'm sure to put it
> to use in other projects.
>
> Your list-content idea has now been folded into my *Library Guide to
> Jung's Collected Works* to enable a search for essays that appear in the
> *CW*: https://pacifica.libguides.com/Jung/essays
>
> I'm now also experimenting with your Timelines plugin so as to developed
> a chronology of Jung's writings.
>
> I've also put your Shiraz framework to good use to develop a *visual map
> of library resources* for new students:
> https://www.pacifica.edu/wp-content/content/lib/searchkit/dja.html
>
> Thanks again for your inspiration and for all your plugins, frameworks,
> demos and tutorials!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 10:07:06 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark!
>>
>> Great! I like your template! Very beautiful output!
>> Also many thanks for sharing your template and output!
>>
>>
>> Extra point:
>> I assume the fulltext essay are PDF files! If you like to click and open
>> a specific page in pdf file, e.g. click the link and open page 236 of file
>> then head over TW-Scripts (https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/) and
>> look for pdflink macro!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 12:30 AM Mark  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Mohammad for all the rich possibilities in Shiraz and for
>>> pointing me to these list-search options!
>>>
>>> I used this list-search macro:
>>>
>>> <>> "[tag[cw]]"
>>> "search:title"
>>> "$:/temp/list-search"
>>> "template/list-search/card-list"
>>> placeholder:"Enter essay title" >>
>>>
>>> with this template: template/list-search/card-list
>>>
>>> <>> title:"<$link/>"
>>> text:"<$transclude field=v tag='cw'/>: //<$transclude field=vt
>>> tag='cw'/>// (pp. <$transclude field=pp tag='cw'/>)<$transclude
>>> field=ebsco tag='cw'/>"
>>> width:"80%"
>>> class:"shadow border-dark text-dark"
>>> >>
>>>
>>> It worked well to create a quick way to search for an essay or chapter
>>> title from all 280 essays and chapters that make up C. G. Jung's *Collected
>>> Works*.
>>>
>>> [image: ListContentCW.png]
>>>
>>> The performance so far is very good for these 280 entries.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 12:46:54 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mark,
  It is here

 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search

 It is stable and you can use it in your project! I recommend using
 Shiraz instead of extracting part of it!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:00 AM Mark  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I could put this list-content macro to use in a project I'm working
> on. Is it available to experiment with? I could not find it at
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/
>
> Thanks!
>
> mck
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered
>> tiddlers with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm
>> not sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and
>> text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text
>> and show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mark]

Hi Mohammad,

Unfortunately, the full-text essay links are to a password protected ebook 
collection as Jung's *Collected Works* are still protected by copyright.

However, thanks for pointing out the pdflink macro as I'm sure to put it to 
use in other projects.

Your list-content idea has now been folded into my *Library Guide to Jung's 
Collected Works* to enable a search for essays that appear in the *CW*: 
https://pacifica.libguides.com/Jung/essays 

I'm now also experimenting with your Timelines plugin so as to developed a 
chronology of Jung's writings.

I've also put your Shiraz framework to good use to develop a *visual map of 
library resources* for new students: 
https://www.pacifica.edu/wp-content/content/lib/searchkit/dja.html

Thanks again for your inspiration and for all your plugins, frameworks, 
demos and tutorials!

Cheers,

Mark

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 10:07:06 PM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Mark!
>
> Great! I like your template! Very beautiful output!
> Also many thanks for sharing your template and output!
>
>
> Extra point:
> I assume the fulltext essay are PDF files! If you like to click and open a 
> specific page in pdf file, e.g. click the link and open page 236 of file
> then head over TW-Scripts (https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/) and look 
> for pdflink macro!
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 12:30 AM Mark  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mohammad for all the rich possibilities in Shiraz and for 
>> pointing me to these list-search options!
>>
>> I used this list-search macro:
>>
>> <> "[tag[cw]]"
>> "search:title"
>> "$:/temp/list-search"
>> "template/list-search/card-list"
>> placeholder:"Enter essay title" >>
>>
>> with this template: template/list-search/card-list
>>
>> <> title:"<$link/>"
>> text:"<$transclude field=v tag='cw'/>: //<$transclude field=vt 
>> tag='cw'/>// (pp. <$transclude field=pp tag='cw'/>)<$transclude 
>> field=ebsco tag='cw'/>"
>> width:"80%"
>> class:"shadow border-dark text-dark"
>> >>
>>
>> It worked well to create a quick way to search for an essay or chapter 
>> title from all 280 essays and chapters that make up C. G. Jung's *Collected 
>> Works*.
>>
>> [image: ListContentCW.png]
>>
>> The performance so far is very good for these 280 entries.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 12:46:54 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>  It is here
>>>
>>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search
>>>
>>> It is stable and you can use it in your project! I recommend using 
>>> Shiraz instead of extracting part of it!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:00 AM Mark  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Mohammad,

 I could put this list-content macro to use in a project I'm working on. 
 Is it available to experiment with? I could not find it at 
 https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/

 Thanks!

 mck

 On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered 
> tiddlers with a search box lets you search in results!
> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more 
> ease!
>
> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not 
> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another 
> user/developer!
>
> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying 
> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>
> As soon as it find any results it shows
>
> 1. each result as a Card
> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and 
> text
> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and 
> show part of text
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi David,
 Sure, I will do!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:34 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> @Mohammad: oh okay, I thought maybe you created something separate from
> List-search. Of course we won't be able to play with it until you give us a
> link. I mean, of course a permalink to that type of search that displays
> results as entire tiddlers...
>
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>>  I think there is no list-content in Shiraz! It is actually list-search
>> inspired from original list-search by Tobias Beers
>>  See: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Q34LKMeqZFI/m/grAXRbx6AgAJ
>>
>> Yes, this is a great feature and has many use cases. I have used other
>> searchboxes in combination with dynamic tables, FAQ, 
>>
>> Your ideas are great! and I hope Mark or other interested people
>> implement them.
>> Thank you for sharing!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I have been using the list-search macro for years. Mohammad, this is a
>>> nice similar implementation!
>>>
>>> Comments:
>>>
>>> 1. This would also be doable with the List-search macro but with a
>>> custom ListItemTemplate. In case anyone is really invested in the
>>> List-search macro.
>>> 2. I have two related ideas. Whether for Mohammad as original poster, or
>>> Mark who says he is working on a related project. Or anyonle else who is
>>> listening in.
>>>
>>> 2a. Imagine if there were a way, either in list-search macro, Mohammad's
>>> list-content, or some other related project, to click on a radio button to
>>> choose between different views (different custom ListItemTemplates) .
>>> Similar to the options for viewing lists in Stroll, but for a filterable
>>> list.
>>>
>>> 2b. Imagine if there were a way to click on a radio button to choose
>>> what field to filter by. The list-search macro is limited to filtering by
>>> one field. If you want to change it, you have to open the macro and change
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I throw these ideas out there since you guys are playing with this. It
>>> would be nice to have these two kinds of customizability in filterable
>>> lists. Maybe hidden under a slider so it doesn't look too messy.
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:14:28 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
 with a search box lets you search in results!
 Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
 ease!

 I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
 sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
 user/developer!

 The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
 titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!

 As soon as it find any results it shows

 1. each result as a Card
 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and
 text
 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
 show part of text



 Best wishes
 Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[David Gifford]

@Mohammad: oh okay, I thought maybe you created something separate from 
List-search. Of course we won't be able to play with it until you give us a 
link. I mean, of course a permalink to that type of search that displays 
results as entire tiddlers...

On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:22:34 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi David,
>
>  I think there is no list-content in Shiraz! It is actually list-search 
> inspired from original list-search by Tobias Beers
>  See: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Q34LKMeqZFI/m/grAXRbx6AgAJ
>  
> Yes, this is a great feature and has many use cases. I have used other 
> searchboxes in combination with dynamic tables, FAQ, 
>
> Your ideas are great! and I hope Mark or other interested people implement 
> them.
> Thank you for sharing!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I have been using the list-search macro for years. Mohammad, this is a 
>> nice similar implementation!
>>
>> Comments:
>>
>> 1. This would also be doable with the List-search macro but with a custom 
>> ListItemTemplate. In case anyone is really invested in the List-search 
>> macro.
>> 2. I have two related ideas. Whether for Mohammad as original poster, or 
>> Mark who says he is working on a related project. Or anyonle else who is 
>> listening in.
>>
>> 2a. Imagine if there were a way, either in list-search macro, Mohammad's 
>> list-content, or some other related project, to click on a radio button to 
>> choose between different views (different custom ListItemTemplates) . 
>> Similar to the options for viewing lists in Stroll, but for a filterable 
>> list.
>>
>> 2b. Imagine if there were a way to click on a radio button to choose what 
>> field to filter by. The list-search macro is limited to filtering by one 
>> field. If you want to change it, you have to open the macro and change it.
>>
>> I throw these ideas out there since you guys are playing with this. It 
>> would be nice to have these two kinds of customizability in filterable 
>> lists. Maybe hidden under a slider so it doesn't look too messy.
>>
>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:14:28 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers 
>>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more 
>>> ease!
>>>
>>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not 
>>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another 
>>> user/developer!
>>>
>>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying 
>>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>>
>>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>>
>>> 1. each result as a Card
>>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and 
>>> show part of text
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi David,

 I think there is no list-content in Shiraz! It is actually list-search
inspired from original list-search by Tobias Beers
 See: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Q34LKMeqZFI/m/grAXRbx6AgAJ

Yes, this is a great feature and has many use cases. I have used other
searchboxes in combination with dynamic tables, FAQ, 

Your ideas are great! and I hope Mark or other interested people implement
them.
Thank you for sharing!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 5:49 PM David Gifford  wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I have been using the list-search macro for years. Mohammad, this is a
> nice similar implementation!
>
> Comments:
>
> 1. This would also be doable with the List-search macro but with a custom
> ListItemTemplate. In case anyone is really invested in the List-search
> macro.
> 2. I have two related ideas. Whether for Mohammad as original poster, or
> Mark who says he is working on a related project. Or anyonle else who is
> listening in.
>
> 2a. Imagine if there were a way, either in list-search macro, Mohammad's
> list-content, or some other related project, to click on a radio button to
> choose between different views (different custom ListItemTemplates) .
> Similar to the options for viewing lists in Stroll, but for a filterable
> list.
>
> 2b. Imagine if there were a way to click on a radio button to choose what
> field to filter by. The list-search macro is limited to filtering by one
> field. If you want to change it, you have to open the macro and change it.
>
> I throw these ideas out there since you guys are playing with this. It
> would be nice to have these two kinds of customizability in filterable
> lists. Maybe hidden under a slider so it doesn't look too messy.
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 11:14:28 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
>> show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mark]

Thank you Mohammad for all the rich possibilities in Shiraz and for 
pointing me to these list-search options!

I used this list-search macro:

<>

with this template: template/list-search/card-list

<"
text:"<$transclude field=v tag='cw'/>: //<$transclude field=vt tag='cw'/>// 
(pp. <$transclude field=pp tag='cw'/>)<$transclude field=ebsco 
tag='cw'/>"
width:"80%"
class:"shadow border-dark text-dark"
>>

It worked well to create a quick way to search for an essay or chapter 
title from all 280 essays and chapters that make up C. G. Jung's *Collected 
Works*.

[image: ListContentCW.png]

The performance so far is very good for these 280 entries.

Best wishes,

Mark

On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 12:46:54 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>  It is here
>
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search
>
> It is stable and you can use it in your project! I recommend using Shiraz 
> instead of extracting part of it!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:00 AM Mark  wrote:
>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> I could put this list-content macro to use in a project I'm working on. 
>> Is it available to experiment with? I could not find it at 
>> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> mck
>>
>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers 
>>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more 
>>> ease!
>>>
>>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not 
>>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another 
>>> user/developer!
>>>
>>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying 
>>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>>
>>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>>
>>> 1. each result as a Card
>>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and 
>>> show part of text
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Mark,
 It is here

https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20List%20and%20Search

It is stable and you can use it in your project! I recommend using Shiraz
instead of extracting part of it!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 12:00 AM Mark  wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I could put this list-content macro to use in a project I'm working on. Is
> it available to experiment with? I could not find it at
> https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/
>
> Thanks!
>
> mck
>
> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:14:28 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
>> show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Shiraz list-content (experimental)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 2:34 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

Hi Saq,


This is neat. I quite like it.


Thank you!

> Is performance an issue if there are too many results?
>

Well yes! Especially when the tiddlers themselves are long and have
manythings to render!


> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 6:14:28 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Shiraz has a list-search which is very handy and list filtered tiddlers
>> with a search box lets you search in results!
>> Shiraz has a lot of features that lets you create new tools with more
>> ease!
>>
>> I have implemented another list macro called list-content! BUT I'm not
>> sure if it has already been published (introduced) by another
>> user/developer!
>>
>> The list-content is actually a search box, but instead of displaying
>> titles, it displays the tiddler with its content!
>>
>> As soon as it find any results it shows
>>
>> 1. each result as a Card
>> 2. The resulting tiddler is displayed with title, subtitle, tags and text
>> 3. It is possible to have multi column result or truncate the text and
>> show part of text
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
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