Re: [twdev] Re: Future of TW5, TiddlyWeb, TW...
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010, PMario wrote: Someone else may jump in for the access rights. Would be interesting also for me :) None of TiddlyWebWiki, TiddlyHoster or TiddlySpace yet expose much of the power associated with the policy entities used to control access right in TiddlyWeb. There is some information on TPC, this tiddlers is a relatively good starting point if you are interested in details: http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/wiki/recipes/docs/tiddlers/policy Bag and recipe policies can be edited using twanager, PUTs to the server, or (if you must) direct edits of the files in the store. Hopefully there will be improved tools soon. Hoster has some exposure of policies on bags, with predetermined access models: * public: anyone can read, write, edit or delete * protected: anyone can read, the "owner" can write, edit and delete * private: only the owner can do anything When I come up with a suitable way to do the interaction, it will also be possible to add people and roles to specific parts of the policies. Ideas or prototypes welcomed. -- Chris Dent http://burningchrome.com/~cdent/ [...] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
Re: [twdev] Re: Future of TW5, TiddlyWeb, TW...
Can someone explain to me how the bags 'n recipes concept is being reflected in TW classic and TW5? In TW, each tiddler (if served by TiddlyWeb) has metadata identifying its origin. The "server.workspace" field contains a reference to either the bag or the recipe (e.g. "bags/Alpha", "recipes/Omega"). In addition, "server.bag" and/or "server.recipe" are set to allow applications to be more specific about how they want to interact with the server (rather than relying on the workspace abstraction). I'd be happy to elaborate on the TiddlyWeb mailing list. -- F. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
[twdev] Re: Future of TW5, TiddlyWeb, TW...
uups, I forgot. You have to register, otherwise bookmark and favorite doesnt work -m On Apr 2, 5:19 pm, PMario wrote: > Hi, > > On Apr 2, 7:13 am, Xen > > > Can someone explain to me how the bags 'n recipes concept is being > > reflected in TW classic and TW5? > > I can show you an example:http://hoster.peermore.com/pmario.myopenid.com > > There ia a wiki called MaloCSSLibrary which contains: > > Ricipe: > system .. comes from tiddlyWeb > systemMalo .. I did this one > MaloCSSLibrary .. which contains the description tiddlers. > > Tiddlers: > All tiddlers that are extracted with the above recipes. > > > Let's say you like the 8 line MaloCSS and you want to use it. Thats > easy. > > *Click the recipe systemMalo > *Click the favorite button above the description > **Now systemMalo is added to you site. You can use it in one of your > recipes > *Go back to my site an repeate everything with MaloCSSLibrary > **Only there as a description. can be deleted if not needed anymore > > *Now go to your site and drag systemMalo and MaloCSSLibrary onto your > public or private wiki/recipe > **A dialog comes up > **should be > 1 system > 2 systemMalo > 3 MaloCSSLibrary > 4 yourRecipeNameLooong > > *click the wiki and open it as a wiki. > *now you have opened my uuups your Malo aware TW > > > In the TW click the more button at the edit menue and > click fields for the workspace info of an "old" Tiddlywiki. > > Someone else may jump in for the access rights. Would be interesting > also for me :) > > I did it with a second account and lost the edit rights on my own wiki > now. > > I think this mechanism is extreamly powerfull in combination with > tiddlyspace.com which has a nice start picture now. A living countdown > for "sign in" would be cool. > > I made a second TW where I use mptw and some of my recipes to build a > ListPlugins page.http://hoster.peermore.com/recipes/ListPlugins/tiddlers > > have fun! > Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
[twdev] Re: Future of TW5, TiddlyWeb, TW...
Hi, On Apr 2, 7:13 am, Xen > Can someone explain to me how the bags 'n recipes concept is being > reflected in TW classic and TW5? I can show you an example: http://hoster.peermore.com/pmario.myopenid.com There ia a wiki called MaloCSSLibrary which contains: Ricipe: system .. comes from tiddlyWeb systemMalo .. I did this one MaloCSSLibrary .. which contains the description tiddlers. Tiddlers: All tiddlers that are extracted with the above recipes. Let's say you like the 8 line MaloCSS and you want to use it. Thats easy. *Click the recipe systemMalo *Click the favorite button above the description **Now systemMalo is added to you site. You can use it in one of your recipes *Go back to my site an repeate everything with MaloCSSLibrary **Only there as a description. can be deleted if not needed anymore *Now go to your site and drag systemMalo and MaloCSSLibrary onto your public or private wiki/recipe **A dialog comes up **should be 1 system 2 systemMalo 3 MaloCSSLibrary 4 yourRecipeNameLooong *click the wiki and open it as a wiki. *now you have opened my uuups your Malo aware TW In the TW click the more button at the edit menue and click fields for the workspace info of an "old" Tiddlywiki. Someone else may jump in for the access rights. Would be interesting also for me :) I did it with a second account and lost the edit rights on my own wiki now. I think this mechanism is extreamly powerfull in combination with tiddlyspace.com which has a nice start picture now. A living countdown for "sign in" would be cool. I made a second TW where I use mptw and some of my recipes to build a ListPlugins page. http://hoster.peermore.com/recipes/ListPlugins/tiddlers have fun! Mario -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
[twdev] Re: Future of TW5, TiddlyWeb, TW...
Interesting thread. Very welcome indeed :). There is one thing that draws my attention. FND wrote: > Beyond this basic entity, TiddlyWeb adds a layer for grouping (bags) and > combining (recipes) tiddler collections. These concepts already map to the > existing TiddlyWiki's understanding of workspaces. The workspace concept is completely new to me. From what I see the idea of bags and recipes would be very welcome indeed in the context of delivering end-user applications or add-ons to the user, to the local wiki document. For instance, the way I know it to be now, if I want to import the application called "twab" (TW adress book), I have to point my import at the right address and manually select all of the tiddlers tagged "twab". It's a bit clumsy. It would be great if there was a common interface - possibly a central repository, but in any case a "bag" or "recipe" system that would allow me to browse all the "packages" on a remote host/document, and simply select "import twab". Can someone explain to me how the bags 'n recipes concept is being reflected in TW classic and TW5? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
[twdev] Re: Future of TW5, TiddlyWeb, TW...
> * Any particular reflections on how, or if, TW5 and TiddlyWeb (and > more?) are evolving to/with the various tec trends we see? Since the > inception of TW, a few things have happened - most notably perhaps the > partial transition to mobile devices and also the increased popularity > of social services (facebook, chatting, skype...) and more. Obviously > most trends and fads are reflected on the plugin level, but I'm asking > if you consider some things fundamental enough to justify > considerations at core level? I'm quite into hearing the response to that point. J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWikiDev" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywikidev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev?hl=en.
