Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Mark Sims skrev: > Here is an updated version of the good Lady Heather's GPS Disciplined > Oscillator control program for the Thunderbolt. This version adds command > line support for setting the video mode: > > /VS = 800x600 > /VM = 1024x768 (default) > /VL = 1280x960 (also good for 1280x1024) > > > /? for command line help > > > Again, the compiled version is for DOS/WIN98 and mayby WIN ME, WIN/NT DOS > mode on systems with a VESA compatible video BIOS. Fails to run on my old Win2k box... even with /2 it fails to find COM1 while the Thunderbolt software does... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
I had similar probs with trying to run on WinxP Home – just a few coloured dots at the top of a black screen. But then I read the words the compiled version is for DOS/WIN98 and mayby WIN ME, WIN/NT DOS mode on systems with a VESA compatible video BIOS. Martin G8BHC 2009/1/31 Magnus Danielson > Mark Sims skrev: > > Here is an updated version of the good Lady Heather's GPS Disciplined > Oscillator control program for the Thunderbolt. This version adds command > line support for setting the video mode: > > > > /VS = 800x600 > > /VM = 1024x768 (default) > > /VL = 1280x960 (also good for 1280x1024) > > > > > > /? for command line help > > > > > > Again, the compiled version is for DOS/WIN98 and mayby WIN ME, WIN/NT > DOS mode on systems with a VESA compatible video BIOS. > > Fails to run on my old Win2k box... even with /2 it fails to find COM1 > while the Thunderbolt software does... > > Cheers, > Magnus > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Martin Richmond-Hardy ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
I tried it on my Compaq 486 running WIN98SE I get a black screen with Logoff on it and a couple of other lines that make no sense ? Who has the Rosetta Stone ?? 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- >From: Mark Sims >Sent: Jan 29, 2009 9:27 PM >To: time-nuts@febo.com >Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update > > >Here is an updated version of the good Lady Heather's GPS Disciplined >Oscillator control program for the Thunderbolt. This version adds command >line support for setting the video mode: > >/VS = 800x600 >/VM = 1024x768 (default) >/VL = 1280x960 (also good for 1280x1024) > > >/? for command line help > > >Again, the compiled version is for DOS/WIN98 and mayby WIN ME, WIN/NT DOS >mode on systems with a VESA compatible video BIOS. >_ >Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. >http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Richard W. Solomon skrev: > I tried it on my Compaq 486 running WIN98SE I get a black screen > with Logoff on it and a couple of other lines that make no sense ? > > Who has the Rosetta Stone ?? I do not know... British Museum maybe? I tried to recompile in my Cygwin environment but with no luck, failed to compile. It seems to be beyond me... I know nothing about Windows... I just need to run the damn thing for some apps... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Hi all, I am running an AMD Duron 700MHz running W98SE when run the program opens a DOS window but crashes the video monitor until the program is stopped with the escape key. So some of the problems may be with the monitor parameters which may not support the high res that a lot will be running even on 98. One solution might be to temporarily select a generic VGA ?? and the boot the program ?? But setting the display to 640 x 480 and 16 colours also gave a blank sccreen (the monitor didn't undestand the drive to it ) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: "Magnus Danielson" To: "Richard W. Solomon" ; "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update > Richard W. Solomon skrev: > > I tried it on my Compaq 486 running WIN98SE I get a black screen > > with Logoff on it and a couple of other lines that make no sense ? > > > > Who has the Rosetta Stone ?? > > I do not know... British Museum maybe? > > I tried to recompile in my Cygwin environment but with no luck, failed > to compile. > > It seems to be beyond me... I know nothing about Windows... I just need > to run the damn thing for some apps... > > Cheers, > Magnus > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Both the old & new versions of Heather run fine on my Win-XP pc here. Help only flashes on the screen, but the 3 screen options all work fine. 73, Bob K1REM -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 1:31 PM To: Richard W. Solomon; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update Richard W. Solomon skrev: > I tried it on my Compaq 486 running WIN98SE I get a black screen > with Logoff on it and a couple of other lines that make no sense ? > > Who has the Rosetta Stone ?? I do not know... British Museum maybe? I tried to recompile in my Cygwin environment but with no luck, failed to compile. It seems to be beyond me... I know nothing about Windows... I just need to run the damn thing for some apps... Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Bob Martinson wrote: > Both the old & new versions of Heather run fine on my Win-XP pc here. Help > only flashes on the screen, but the 3 screen options all work fine. runs fine on my 2 x winxp-pro machines and I just tried an old win2K laptop - again works fine. Its a pity people are having trouble getting it going as its very good. Regards Paul -- 73 de Paul GW8IZR IO73TI http://www.gw8izr.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] HP 4352A/B with different signal generator
Does anyone know if it is possible to use the HP4352A/B VCO/PLL analyzers with signal generators other than the 8665A? What is involved? I have a sig gen which is plenty good, so buying an 8665 just to go with a 4352 (which you can now get for about $1K) seems like a waste. Thanks, Matt ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 4352A/B with different signal generator
Hi Matt: Where can I get one for that price? The Sig Gen phase noise is the driving spec since it needs to be better than the phase noise of the VCO you are measuring. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com Matt Ettus wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to use the HP4352A/B VCO/PLL > analyzers with signal generators other than the 8665A? What is > involved? > > > I have a sig gen which is plenty good, so buying an 8665 just to go > with a 4352 (which you can now get for about $1K) seems like a waste. > > > Thanks, > Matt > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] HP 3456A stability upgrade
For you volt-nuts out there... There's a fellow in California, John Lion (LionElectronicLabs at BigPlanet dot com) who has a supply of temperature-chamber-aged and then hand-selected LM-199AH references that he will install into an HP 3456A DMM for a fairly reasonable price. I don't know how much of a difference these really make, but supposedly they provide better stability both short and long term than the standard LM-199 that HP installed. I don't have the gear to test that myself, but I had a good report from a cal lab that has worked with a few of these units. Anyway, I don't have any connection with John other than as a customer (and he's been extremely good on customer service and follow through), but thought I'd pass this on for those who might be interested. John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 4352A/B with different signal generator
There's a 4352B on ebay for a $1K start bid, but there's a reserve. There's a 4352A for $1999 Buy it Now with an "Or Best Offer" option. In general, this is an absolutely great time to get modern test equipment at very low cost. With the economy down, everybody wants to get rid of inventory. I just got a like-new R+S SMATE200A (Dual IQ signal generator up to 6 GHz) for $8K, even though the new price is still $65K. I think I could have gotten it for less if I had tried, since it was right before the end of the year. On the subject of the alternate sig gen with a 4352, do you need to just tune it to some frequency offset away from the signal you are measuring? Does the offset change during the measurement? If it changes during the measurement, some form of automation would be necessary. Thanks, Matt On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Matt: > > Where can I get one for that price? > > The Sig Gen phase noise is the driving spec since it needs to be better than > the phase noise of the VCO you are measuring. > > Have Fun, > > Brooke Clarke > http://www.prc68.com > > Matt Ettus wrote: >> Does anyone know if it is possible to use the HP4352A/B VCO/PLL >> analyzers with signal generators other than the 8665A? What is >> involved? >> >> >> I have a sig gen which is plenty good, so buying an 8665 just to go >> with a 4352 (which you can now get for about $1K) seems like a waste. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Matt >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Hello again Magnus, If the program is started up and it is not seeing the Tbolt on the COM port you should see the "Log: OFF" indicator, two lines of text that are the plot area header, and the plot axes/grid. Pressing the SPACE bar should bring up a help screen in place of the plot grid. If all that is working, the problem is probably in the COM port. It wants the tbolt to be at factory com settings (9600,N,8,1) The program talks to the COM port UART directly. It probably won't work with a USB converter. The default is COM1, the /2 command line option should select COM2 (but I don't have a machine here with two serial ports to test it... the com port code was lifted from another program that did work with COM2). There are several command line options. use /? to see them. _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_012009 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Magnus Danielson skrev: > Mark Sims skrev: >> Here is an updated version of the good Lady Heather's GPS Disciplined >> Oscillator control program for the Thunderbolt. This version adds command >> line support for setting the video mode: >> >> /VS = 800x600 >> /VM = 1024x768 (default) >> /VL = 1280x960 (also good for 1280x1024) >> >> >> /? for command line help >> >> >> Again, the compiled version is for DOS/WIN98 and mayby WIN ME, WIN/NT DOS >> mode on systems with a VESA compatible video BIOS. > > Fails to run on my old Win2k box... even with /2 it fails to find COM1 > while the Thunderbolt software does... After doing some attempts to hack the configuration so that the serial port does show up as COM1 rather than the laptops builtin modem it works, but only in text-mode. Ah well, a small grace as it is. I failed to toggle to Kalman filter. Got it working at least. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
Mark Sims skrev: > Hello again Magnus, Hi Mark, > If the program is started up and it is not seeing the Tbolt on the COM > port you should see the "Log: OFF" indicator, two lines of text that > are the plot area header, and the plot axes/grid. Pressing the > SPACE bar should bring up a help screen in place of the plot grid. > If all that is working, the problem is probably in the COM port. > It wants the tbolt to be at factory com settings (9600,N,8,1) That was not the problem. It failed with a big windows thing saying it would not find the COM1 and then the programmed died. > The program talks to the COM port UART directly. It probably won't > work with a USB converter. The default is COM1, the /2 command line > option should select COM2 (but I don't have a machine here with two > serial ports to test it... the com port code was lifted from another > program that did work with COM2). The trouble here was that COM1 was "felt" by the OS to be used for something else. Very strange. I had to force COM2 to become COM1 to solve it. /2 did not help as it actually was COM1 in hardware. > There are several command line options. use /? to see them. I found them by tossing random commands at it... fairly quickly. My remaining problem is to get it to run in graphical mode. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update
I'm trying to bring the Win32 version up to date with the graphical version, but am dealing with a bug that apparently puts the Thunderbolt into some kind of mode where it returns junk data over the serial line. My Win32 build runs for a minute or so, draws some graphs that don't make sense, and then I have to go into TBoltMon.exe and do a warm reset to make it resume sending normal serial updates. Is this basically what the DOS version normally looks like (attached), obvious errors aside? -- john, KE5FX > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]on > Behalf Of Magnus Danielson > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 4:18 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update > > > Mark Sims skrev: > > Hello again Magnus, > > Hi Mark, > > > If the program is started up and it is not seeing the Tbolt on the COM > > port you should see the "Log: OFF" indicator, two lines of text that > > are the plot area header, and the plot axes/grid. Pressing the > > SPACE bar should bring up a help screen in place of the plot grid. > > If all that is working, the problem is probably in the COM port. > > It wants the tbolt to be at factory com settings (9600,N,8,1) > > That was not the problem. It failed with a big windows thing saying it > would not find the COM1 and then the programmed died. > > > The program talks to the COM port UART directly. It probably won't > > work with a USB converter. The default is COM1, the /2 command line > > option should select COM2 (but I don't have a machine here with two > > serial ports to test it... the com port code was lifted from another > > program that did work with COM2). > > The trouble here was that COM1 was "felt" by the OS to be used for > something else. Very strange. I had to force COM2 to become COM1 to > solve it. /2 did not help as it actually was COM1 in hardware. > > > There are several command line options. use /? to see them. > > I found them by tossing random commands at it... fairly quickly. > > My remaining problem is to get it to run in graphical mode. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > <>___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] HP 3456A stability upgrade
I need to clarify something about my earlier posting regarding the 3456A upgrade. The upgrade involves more than dropping in a new part; there are other circuit changes also required. Lion Electronics does the conversion, but doesn't supply the parts separately (after all, he's in business!). John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Boatanchor docs: HP AC-4 counter module manual
O Nuts of Time, I was recently asked to make a big PDF file of the HP AC-4 counter modules manual that I have had on my website for a few years as a series of jpeg files. So I did... http://www.nixiebunny.com/hpac4/hpac4.pdf These modules are used in the ancient HP 521 to 524 series of counters. Each module handles one digit. They have four vacuum tubes and either a nixie tube or ten neons in a thermometer arrangement. I have a 521C and a 522B counter on hand but they are a bit too slow to handle the 10 MHz of modern times, having a maximum counting frequency of 200 kilocycles per second. -- --David Forbes, Tucson, AZ http://www.cathodecorner.com/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.