[time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem - full screen mode

[Mark Sims]

Ahhh, full screen mode... the demon mode from hell.  On most modern systems 
with large monitors it crashed the program.  It uses DirectDraw and if your 
DirectDraw implementation does not handle your monitor size, bye bye Heather.  
That means full screen mode (or clicking the MAXIMIZE button or pressing F11 
crashes Heather unless your monitor or graphics driver was a standard VGA era 
screen res like 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, or 1280x1024). Only those four 
monitor widths allow full screen mode.  Monitor height is not check for.

Because pressing the MAXIMIZE button was quite easy to do accidentally,  full 
screen mode is disabled by default (but F11 can't be disabled).  If your 
monitor / graphics driver is one of the magic sizes you can enable full screen 
mode with the new /fu command.  For instance for a 1024x768 screen try:
   /fu /vm

If you have a larger monitor and can configure your display driver for one of 
the magic sizes, that works.

The /f command now brings up Heather in a windowed mode sized to fill (most of) 
the screen.  You can also do that with $f from the keyboard.

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[time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[Mark Sims]

Microsoft recently pushed out a WIN10 update that broke DHCP and a few other 
networking features.  It's affecting LARGE numbers of systems worldwide.  The 
most common symptom is that you can no longer get to the internet since Windows 
can't find your router,  but other more subtle glitches have been reported.

--

>  The explanation is rather difficult to parse.  It seems it's indicating
that an MX record was found (somewhere you could send email) but no A
record (a server you could connect to).

As John says, probably a temporary problem.
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[time-nuts] LH "Life" readout

[Mark Sims]

Did you wait at least three hours for it to change?  it's working fine on mine. 
It has X98_4-A firmware.

---

> Lucent ref0 box working fine with LH.

Question - Life readout on LH reads 17832 hours and does not advance.  Life 
readout on Z3811.exe program reads 5943 hours and advances.

Is the life readout available for the Lucent box?
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[Richard W. Solomon]

As I e-mailed earlier, the cause was ticking the wrong shortcut.
Once I ticked the right one, it opened up.

NOW, how does one get it to run in full screen mode. I tried the /f 
tag but it did not work.

Any ideas ?

Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Miles
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:04 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

The error message in question came from the IPCONN::connect() method in 
ipconn.cpp.  That particular code (11004) is returned by gethostbyname() when 
it fails to resolve a DNS name.  Normally, when Heather tries to connect to the 
test server, gethostbyname() is used to turn "ke5fx.dyndns.org" into a numeric 
address that can be passed to connect().  If it returns 11004, it means that 
the client's DNS provider was able to find a record, but couldn't actually 
resolve it.  

Should just be a temporary glitch in the Matrix.  Nothing specific can be done 
about it AFAIK.

-- john, KE5FX
Miles Design LLC

> I grep'd all the source code and there is no 11004 anywhere in the program...
> 

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[Orin Eman]

For a little more detail see WSA_NODATA here:
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms740668(v=vs.85).aspx

The explanation is rather difficult to parse.  It seems it's indicating
that an MX record was found (somewhere you could send email) but no A
record (a server you could connect to).

As John says, probably a temporary problem.

Orin; never seen that one before.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:04 PM, John Miles  wrote:

> The error message in question came from the IPCONN::connect() method in
> ipconn.cpp.  That particular code (11004) is returned by gethostbyname()
> when it fails to resolve a DNS name.  Normally, when Heather tries to
> connect to the test server, gethostbyname() is used to turn "
> ke5fx.dyndns.org" into a numeric address that can be passed to
> connect().  If it returns 11004, it means that the client's DNS provider
> was able to find a record, but couldn't actually resolve it.
>
> Should just be a temporary glitch in the Matrix.  Nothing specific can be
> done about it AFAIK.
>
> -- john, KE5FX
> Miles Design LLC
>
> > I grep'd all the source code and there is no 11004 anywhere in the
> program...
> >
>
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[time-nuts] HP 58503A chassis part needed

[Stan]

Hello,

 

I'm in the process of restoring my 58503A. In the process of disassembling
it, the rear plastic frame that is held to the back panel with the two T15
Torx screws had become brittle with age and it cracked into several pieces
as I was removing it. It will be difficult to get all of the small pieces
glued back into place, so I'd rather just replace it with an intact part.

 

I have a spare rear frame from another HP bench instrument in my spare parts
bin, but much to my surprise I found that the center-to-center hole spacing
of the screws on the 58503A frame is about 7.5", whereas on all of the other
HP bench instruments that I've checked it's only about 7.375", so my spare
frame does not fit. Does anyone have, or know where to get, the proper rear
frame for my 58503A?

 

Thanks,

Stan 

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[John Miles]

The error message in question came from the IPCONN::connect() method in 
ipconn.cpp.  That particular code (11004) is returned by gethostbyname() when 
it fails to resolve a DNS name.  Normally, when Heather tries to connect to the 
test server, gethostbyname() is used to turn "ke5fx.dyndns.org" into a numeric 
address that can be passed to connect().  If it returns 11004, it means that 
the client's DNS provider was able to find a record, but couldn't actually 
resolve it.  

Should just be a temporary glitch in the Matrix.  Nothing specific can be done 
about it AFAIK.

-- john, KE5FX
Miles Design LLC

> I grep'd all the source code and there is no 11004 anywhere in the program...
> 

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[time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[Mark Sims]

I grep'd all the source code and there is no 11004 anywhere in the program...



> ke5fx.dyndns.org not found (code 11004)
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[John Miles]

Hmm, no, that shouldn't affect anything.  Sounds like a DNS issue of some kind, 
presumably (but not necessarily) at your end.  Try again?

-- john, KE5FX
Miles Design LLC


> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of
> Richard W. Solomon
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:45 AM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem
> 
> I installed LH Ver 5 and when I try to open it I get an error message:
> 
> 
> 
> ke5fx.dyndns.org not found (code 11004)
> 
> 
> 
> Was I supposed to install it in the old LH Folder ?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B Manual.

[Charles Steinmetz]

Bob wrote:


I found my Austron manuals CD last night while
cleaning up the ham shack. I'll send a copy tonight.


Bob, perhaps you could also upload the 2010B manual (and any other 
Austron manuals you have that are not currently in circulation) to 
Didier's site:




A list of the Austron files currently hosted there is attached.

Thank you,

Charles


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Re: [time-nuts] Time math libraries

[timenut]

Eric,

I speak as someone who has implemented many calendrical packages. I have
always tried to achieve the maximum degree of generality, and have considered
the issues with leap seconds on more than one occassion.

The first problem with leap seconds is that you need a list of them, and that
list needs constant updating. If date/times are maintained in a standard form
such as seconds since the beginning of an epoch (e.g. 0 AD) then even the
conversion into a conventional date/time is dependent upon the country you are
in. That is just too much overkill for the usual purpose.

In practice, a date/time is loaded from a file or obtained from an operating
system (which MAY take leap seconds into account). At that point it is just a
date/time to be manipulated. If you should be unlucky enough to get a
date/time exactly in a leap second - it really doesn't matter because
date/times are just not synchronized well enough for it to matter.

Where it does matter, there is some local clock which is used and the
date/times are relative to it. This is almost always for timestamps, and the
time since the system boot will generally do well unless you need it across a
network. Then even cable delays become a problem.

So taking leap seconds into account requires a substantial amount of
additional coding, constant updates of possibly distributed code to keep the
list of leap seconds maintained and adversely affects both storage and
performance. For practical matters, even if it could be done at zero cost,
there is no real benefit. Just allowing a day to have 86,401 seconds causes
all sorts of problems with data storage, consistency verification, editing and
ensuring that data entry is correct.

It is the rare application that needs leap seconds - even though it may be
"correct", and certainly an option I have considered many times - but it has
never been justified for anything that I have ever written (which actually
includes operating systems). Consider that the system clock for any processor
will "slip" on a regular basis and need to be reset. The accuracy that most
operating systems can maintain in practice is, at best, only on the order of
a second or two - and that is with regular updates from a timing source.

Now, if you have a processor with a built-in GPSDO, perhaps that could be used
to regulate the system clock (which is just a cheap quartz crystal) and keep
time synchronized to perhaps a millisecond or so. Maybe. But, probably not.

All that is left would be specialized applications that actually require leap
seconds. I don't know of any, but there may be some available. Certainly an
operating system could maintain the necessary lists (assuming that it is
regularly updated). It could use that data for conversions. I don't know of an
operating system that does that though because of the data format problems.
They would report a time such as 24:00:00 which would otherwise be invalid.
That specific time is usually taken as 00:00:00 of the next day. Very few, if
any applications would understand 24:00:00 as a valid time. So, operating
systems can't really afford to take leap seconds into account either.


Michael

>(Apologies if this question has been addressed before. Archive search is
> rather cumbersome on a month-by-month basis.)

>Few people will be surprised to learn that MS Excel does not account for
> leap seconds when doing time math. See below for an example. This is just an
> example of many instances of programming failures.

>Are there good time math software libraries (e.g., Java, C++/C#, etc)
> that will do time math correctly for the chosen time scale?

>Thanks.

> — Eric


> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:57
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:58
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:59
> 2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:00
> 2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:01
> 2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:02


> My machine is on EST right now. Is it a time zone question?

> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:57
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:58
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:59
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:00
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:01
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:02

> Nope!

> What about past leap seconds?

> 2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:57
> 2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:58
> 2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:59
> 2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:00
> 2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:01
> 2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:02

> Also fail!
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-- 
Best regards,
 Timenutmailto:time...@metachaos.net

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Version 5 is now available

[Alberto di Bene]

On 12/12/2016 7:38 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote:

Maybe that the "Start In" field in the Properties Panel must be set if
windows is not in US language mode. When windows is italian, for
example, the Program Files folder becomes Programmi.



Azelio,

  none of my PCs is set for Italian languages... the first thing I do when 
installing from fresh is
to change from the default Italian to English US language... I can't stand a PC 
that talks to me
in Italian...  :-)

Moreover, as written, I installed LH in the E:\Ham\GPS\Heather_V5 folder, well 
outside of the
Program Files hierarchy.  And everything worked as it should only after I had 
properly filled
the "Start In" field of the Property panel.

73  Alberto  I2PHD



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[time-nuts] LH "Life" readout

[Bill Riches]

Lucent ref0 box working fine with LH.

Question - Life readout on LH reads 17832 hours and does not advance.  Life 
readout on Z3811.exe program reads 5943 hours and advances.

Is the life readout available for the Lucent box?

73,

Bill, WA2DVU

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Re: [time-nuts] OT: ExpressPCB (cross-post from volts-nuts)

[Chris Albertson]

Lowest price I've found is BasicPCB.com  They charge $3 per square
inch for 2 layers with mask and legend.  Minimum is three boards of 1
square inch.   So you actually can place a $9 order with them.  They
are a USA based company.

They accept standard Gerber files.   This is very imported as a few
others like PCBexpress make you use their proprietary layout software
and then you are locked into that company for production runs too.
You need a workflow that uses Gerber files

One thing I'm doing is converting a small mill to CNC operation.  I'm
doing this to make metal parst but a secondary use is that I hope to
be able to make at least simple PCBs for larger parts.
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Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B Manual.

[Bob Darlington]

OH YEAH!

I found my Austron manuals CD last night while cleaning up the ham shack.
I'll send a copy tonight.

-Bob

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Angus  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know this has been asked about a few times over the years, but I've
> not been able to find any user or service manuals for an Austron 2010B
> to download anywhere - anyone know of any?
>
> Thanks,
> Angus.
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Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2010B Manual.

[Bob Darlington]

And like a fool, I sent this to the list.

Angus, ping me direct with your address and I'll send you my CD.

-Bob

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Bob Darlington 
wrote:

> OH YEAH!
>
> I found my Austron manuals CD last night while cleaning up the ham shack.
>   I'll send a copy tonight.
>
> -Bob
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Angus  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know this has been asked about a few times over the years, but I've
>> not been able to find any user or service manuals for an Austron 2010B
>> to download anywhere - anyone know of any?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Angus.
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[time-nuts] Austron 2010B Manual.

[Angus]

Hi,

I know this has been asked about a few times over the years, but I've
not been able to find any user or service manuals for an Austron 2010B
to download anywhere - anyone know of any?

Thanks,
Angus.
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[time-nuts] Lady Heather Ver 5 Problem

[Richard W. Solomon]

I installed LH Ver 5 and when I try to open it I get an error message:

 

ke5fx.dyndns.org not found (code 11004)

 

Was I supposed to install it in the old LH Folder ?

 

Thanks, Dick, W1KSZ

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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Version 5 is now available

[Azelio Boriani]

Maybe that the "Start In" field in the Properties Panel must be set if
windows is not in US language mode. When windows is italian, for
example, the Program Files folder becomes Programmi.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:53 AM, David J Taylor
 wrote:
> Hello Mark,
>
> many thanks for your immense and invaluable work!
>
> I am using the trimble thunderbold together with LH version 3 all the
> last years with success, I like your program very much.
> I downloaded and installed today the version 5, but I have some problems
> because it looks like my windows 7 does
> not get access to the heather.cfg file, what do I wrong? Anybody has an
> idea how to do it right?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Arnold, DK2WT
> =
>
> Arnold,
>
> Like much software where the user needs to edit a configuration file, it's
> best installed /outside/ the "Program Files" directory:
>
> - Create a new directory C:\Tools\
> - (optional) Set the permissions to Everyone, Full control
> - Created a new directory C:\Tools\LadyHeather\  (your choice of name)
> - Right-click the LH download, Properties.
>  - If "Unblock" is present & checked, uncheck it.
> - Install LH here.
>
> It's running correctly on my Win10/64 system.  More information:
>
>
> http://planeplotter.pbworks.com/Using%20Plane%20Plotter%20on%20Windows-7%20and%20Vista
>
> 73,
> David GM8ARV
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Re: [time-nuts] Time math libraries

[Tim Shoppa]

I have had some success with Perl DateTime CPAN module's support for leap
seconds - doing time delta math without using Unix Epoch Seconds properly
handles leap seconds.

Converting back and forth to Unix Epoch time works as well as it can (given
non uniqueness).

It also supports the concept of a "floating timezone" which never takes
into account leap seconds.

Tim N3QE

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Eric Scace  wrote:

>(Apologies if this question has been addressed before. Archive search
> is rather cumbersome on a month-by-month basis.)
>
>Few people will be surprised to learn that MS Excel does not account
> for leap seconds when doing time math. See below for an example. This is
> just an example of many instances of programming failures.
>
>Are there good time math software libraries (e.g., Java, C++/C#, etc)
> that will do time math correctly for the chosen time scale?
>
>Thanks.
>
> — Eric
>
>
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:57
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:58
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:59
> 2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:00
> 2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:01
> 2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:02
>
>
> My machine is on EST right now. Is it a time zone question?
>
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:57
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:58
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:59
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:00
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:01
> 2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:02
>
> Nope!
>
> What about past leap seconds?
>
> 2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:57
> 2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:58
> 2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:59
> 2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:00
> 2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:01
> 2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:02
>
> Also fail!
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[time-nuts] Time math libraries

[Eric Scace]

   (Apologies if this question has been addressed before. Archive search is 
rather cumbersome on a month-by-month basis.)

   Few people will be surprised to learn that MS Excel does not account for 
leap seconds when doing time math. See below for an example. This is just an 
example of many instances of programming failures.

   Are there good time math software libraries (e.g., Java, C++/C#, etc) that 
will do time math correctly for the chosen time scale?

   Thanks.

— Eric


2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:57
2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:58
2016 Dec 31 Sat 23:59:59
2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:00
2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:01
2017 Jan 01 Sun 00:00:02


My machine is on EST right now. Is it a time zone question?

2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:57
2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:58
2016 Dec 31 Sat 18:59:59
2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:00
2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:01
2016 Dec 31 Sat 19:00:02

Nope!

What about past leap seconds?

2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:57
2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:58
2015 Jun 30 Tue 23:59:59
2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:00
2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:01
2015 Jul 01 Wed 00:00:02

Also fail!
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Re: [time-nuts] OT: 4-way amplfied GPS splitter wanted - UK source?

[Peter Vince]

Hi David,

 Yes, I have one you can have - I'll contact you off list.

  Regards,

   Peter  (Surrey)


On 12 December 2016 at 15:29, David J Taylor 
wrote:

> Perhaps this is not too off-topic for the moderators?
>
> I'm looking for a 4-way (or more) amplified GPS splitter, with N-type
> connections.  Yes, I can see some on eBay but they all seem to be US
> sourced with rather large postage charges.  I'm wondering whether anyone in
> the UK might have one for sale?  It's for my Rapco 1804M which, like a lot
> of the older kit, isn't very sensitive so a passive splitter would likely
> lose too much signal.
>
>  http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Rapco-1804M-notes.html
>
> Thanks,
> David
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[time-nuts] rxx question

[Mark Sims]

The /rxx command says to run without a receiver.  It turns Heather into a 
glorified system clock display.  Use /rxk for the Lucent.  

Also your time zone command is wrong.  Use /tz=EST5EDT or /tz=-5EST/EDT

The life time is shown near the middle of the screen as part of the 
disciplining/holdover information.


-

>  When I enter /rxx=17  it corrects leap second but the screen changes from 
> all of the data to just to clock info full screen.  How do I get the full 
> data info back?
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[time-nuts] rxx question

[Bill Riches]

LH works great with my lucent REF0 box.  I am using string  /4 /vs /tz=5.

When I enter /rxx=17  it corrects leap second but the screen changes from all 
of the data to just to clock info full screen.  How do I get the full data info 
back?

Is it possible to read the total life operating time from the REF0 box?

Thank you again for V5!


73,

Bill, WA2DVU
Cape May 

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[time-nuts] OT: 4-way amplfied GPS splitter wanted - UK source?

[David J Taylor]

Perhaps this is not too off-topic for the moderators?

I'm looking for a 4-way (or more) amplified GPS splitter, with N-type 
connections.  Yes, I can see some on eBay but they all seem to be US sourced 
with rather large postage charges.  I'm wondering whether anyone in the UK 
might have one for sale?  It's for my Rapco 1804M which, like a lot of the 
older kit, isn't very sensitive so a passive splitter would likely lose too 
much signal.


 http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/Rapco-1804M-notes.html

Thanks,
David
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Version 5 is now available

[David J Taylor]

Hello Mark,

many thanks for your immense and invaluable work!

I am using the trimble thunderbold together with LH version 3 all the
last years with success, I like your program very much.
I downloaded and installed today the version 5, but I have some problems
because it looks like my windows 7 does
not get access to the heather.cfg file, what do I wrong? Anybody has an
idea how to do it right?

Many thanks

Arnold, DK2WT
=

Arnold,

Like much software where the user needs to edit a configuration file, it's 
best installed /outside/ the "Program Files" directory:


- Create a new directory C:\Tools\
- (optional) Set the permissions to Everyone, Full control
- Created a new directory C:\Tools\LadyHeather\  (your choice of name)
- Right-click the LH download, Properties.
 - If "Unblock" is present & checked, uncheck it.
- Install LH here.

It's running correctly on my Win10/64 system.  More information:

 
http://planeplotter.pbworks.com/Using%20Plane%20Plotter%20on%20Windows-7%20and%20Vista

73,
David GM8ARV
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