Re: [time-nuts] Fw: GPS, NTP, and Cisco routers...

2014-12-08 Thread Bob Chan
Dear Mark,

Thanks for the file. In fact the 7204  IOS was work for 10year+ when it
pair w/ TimesSource3600 PRS. a few month before the TS3600 was dead and I
replace it w/ TS3550.

So I was wondering, is there something difference in TOD between TS3600 
TS3550.

Any suggestion?, I already replace 7204 and try a newer ISO (
from c7200-is-mz.122-11.T.bin to c7200-ipbasek9-mz.122-33.SRD8.bin)

Thanks

Bob Chan

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Mark Allwright mark.allwri...@shaw.ca
wrote:



 -Original Message- From: Mark Allwright
 Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 3:47 PM
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS, NTP, and Cisco routers...

 Hi Bob.

 Here is a copy of the application note.

 I stopped using Cisco routers as my primary NTP sources some time ago
 (years).  Did you try some other/older Cisco IOS versions on your 7204?

 Regards.

 Mark.

 --

 Mark Allwright, VE6NTP

 -Original Message- From: Bob Chan
 Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:51 PM
 To: time-nuts@febo.com ; mark.allwri...@bell.ca
 Subject: [time-nuts] GPS, NTP, and Cisco routers...

 Dear all,

 Do any one still using Cisco 7200 as NTP master? and get ref clock from
 Microsemi GPS TOD via Aux port

 I used to have a TimeSource3600 to feed TOD to a Cisco7204VXR, but the
 TS3600 was dead, and I TimeSource3550 was installed.

 But I found the 7204 cannot get a reliable PPS from the TS3550.

 In 7204, I use below command:
 line aux 0
 ntp refclock telecom-solutions pps cts stratum 0
 no exec
 transport input all
 stopbits 1
 line vty 0 4
 exec-timeout 20 0
 !
 ntp access-group query-only 95
 ntp access-group peer 96
 ntp access-group serve 97
 ntp access-group serve-only 98
 ntp master

 In TS3550, I set the TOD format to Cisco, and a TOD converter was
 installed.

 The 7204 can sync to GPS after a reboot. but after some time (form min. to
 an hour) it will lost sync to GPS and said Bad Time or No PPS signal in
 sh ntp asso detail and sh line aux wil indicate alot of noise 
 overrun

  7204 
 sh ntp ass de
 127.127.7.1 configured, our_master, sane, valid, stratum 7
 ref ID 127.127.7.1, time D8212701.14C20B50 (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27
 2014)
 our mode active, peer mode passive, our poll intvl 64, peer poll intvl 64
 root delay 0.00 msec, root disp 0.00, reach 377, sync dist 0.015
 delay 0.00 msec, offset 0. msec, dispersion 0.02
 precision 2**18, version 3
 org time D8212701.14C20B50 (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
 rcv time D8212701.14C20B50 (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
 xmt time D8212701.14C1C10F (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
 filtdelay = 0.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
 0.00
 filtoffset =0.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
 0.00
 filterror = 0.020.991.972.943.924.905.87
 6.85
 Reference clock status:  Running normally
 Timecode:

 --More-- 127.127.6.1 configured, insane, invalid, unsynced,
 stratum 0
 ref ID .GPS., time . (08:00:00.000 HKT Mon Jan 1 1900)
 our mode active, peer mode unspec, our poll intvl 64, peer poll intvl 64
 root delay 0.00 msec, root disp 0.00, reach 0, sync dist 103.516
 delay 0.00 msec, offset 0. msec, dispersion 16000.00
 precision 2**20, version 3
 org time . (08:00:00.000 HKT Mon Jan 1 1900)
 rcv time . (08:00:00.000 HKT Mon Jan 1 1900)
 xmt time D8212733.14C1CF13 (12:29:39.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
 filtdelay = 0.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
 0.00
 filtoffset =0.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
 0.00
 filterror =  16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0
 16000.0
 Reference clock status:  No PPS signal
 Timecode: *,A,56989,14/11/27,04:29:47,+00.0,0,22N22.238,114E07.820,+0095

 sh lin aux 0
   Tty Typ Tx/RxA Modem  Roty AccO AccI   Uses   Noise  Overruns
 Int
 *1 AUX   9600/9600  --  ---  0 581 1/799854
  -

 Line 1, Location: , Type: 
 Length: 24 lines, Width: 80 columns
 Baud rate (TX/RX) is 9600/9600, no parity, 1 stopbits, 8 databits
 Status: Ready, Active, Modem Signals Polled
 Capabilities: EXEC Suppressed, NTP Reference Clock, PPS Reference Clock
 Modem state: Ready
 Modem hardware state: CTS* noDSR  DTR RTS
 Special Chars: Escape  Hold  Stop  Start  Disconnect  Activation
^^xnone   - -   none
 Timeouts:  Idle EXECIdle Session   Modem Answer  Session   Dispatch
   00:10:00nevernone not set
Idle Session Disconnect Warning
  never
Login-sequence User Response
 00:00:30
Autoselect Initial Wait
  not set
 Modem type is unknown.
 Session limit is not set.
 Time since activation: never
 Editing is enabled.
 History is enabled, history size is 10.
 DNS resolution in show

[time-nuts] GPS, NTP, and Cisco routers...

2014-12-05 Thread Bob Chan
Dear all,

Do any one still using Cisco 7200 as NTP master? and get ref clock from
Microsemi GPS TOD via Aux port

I used to have a TimeSource3600 to feed TOD to a Cisco7204VXR, but the
TS3600 was dead, and I TimeSource3550 was installed.

But I found the 7204 cannot get a reliable PPS from the TS3550.

In 7204, I use below command:
line aux 0
 ntp refclock telecom-solutions pps cts stratum 0
 no exec
 transport input all
 stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
 exec-timeout 20 0
!
ntp access-group query-only 95
ntp access-group peer 96
ntp access-group serve 97
ntp access-group serve-only 98
ntp master

In TS3550, I set the TOD format to Cisco, and a TOD converter was installed.

The 7204 can sync to GPS after a reboot. but after some time (form min. to
an hour) it will lost sync to GPS and said Bad Time or No PPS signal in
sh ntp asso detail and sh line aux wil indicate alot of noise  overrun

 7204 
sh ntp ass de
127.127.7.1 configured, our_master, sane, valid, stratum 7
ref ID 127.127.7.1, time D8212701.14C20B50 (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27
2014)
our mode active, peer mode passive, our poll intvl 64, peer poll intvl 64
root delay 0.00 msec, root disp 0.00, reach 377, sync dist 0.015
delay 0.00 msec, offset 0. msec, dispersion 0.02
precision 2**18, version 3
org time D8212701.14C20B50 (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
rcv time D8212701.14C20B50 (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
xmt time D8212701.14C1C10F (12:28:49.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
filtdelay = 0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
filtoffset =0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
filterror = 0.020.991.972.943.924.905.876.85
Reference clock status:  Running normally
Timecode:

 --More-- 127.127.6.1 configured, insane, invalid, unsynced,
stratum 0
ref ID .GPS., time . (08:00:00.000 HKT Mon Jan 1 1900)
our mode active, peer mode unspec, our poll intvl 64, peer poll intvl 64
root delay 0.00 msec, root disp 0.00, reach 0, sync dist 103.516
delay 0.00 msec, offset 0. msec, dispersion 16000.00
precision 2**20, version 3
org time . (08:00:00.000 HKT Mon Jan 1 1900)
rcv time . (08:00:00.000 HKT Mon Jan 1 1900)
xmt time D8212733.14C1CF13 (12:29:39.081 HKT Thu Nov 27 2014)
filtdelay = 0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
filtoffset =0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00
filterror =  16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0 16000.0
Reference clock status:  No PPS signal
Timecode: *,A,56989,14/11/27,04:29:47,+00.0,0,22N22.238,114E07.820,+0095

sh lin aux 0
   Tty Typ Tx/RxA Modem  Roty AccO AccI   Uses   Noise  Overruns
Int
*1 AUX   9600/9600  --  ---  0 581 1/799854
  -

Line 1, Location: , Type: 
Length: 24 lines, Width: 80 columns
Baud rate (TX/RX) is 9600/9600, no parity, 1 stopbits, 8 databits
Status: Ready, Active, Modem Signals Polled
Capabilities: EXEC Suppressed, NTP Reference Clock, PPS Reference Clock
Modem state: Ready
Modem hardware state: CTS* noDSR  DTR RTS
Special Chars: Escape  Hold  Stop  Start  Disconnect  Activation
^^xnone   - -   none
Timeouts:  Idle EXECIdle Session   Modem Answer  Session   Dispatch
   00:10:00nevernone not set
Idle Session Disconnect Warning
  never
Login-sequence User Response
 00:00:30
Autoselect Initial Wait
  not set
Modem type is unknown.
Session limit is not set.
Time since activation: never
Editing is enabled.
History is enabled, history size is 10.
DNS resolution in show commands is enabled
Full user help is disabled
Allowed input transports are pad v120 telnet.
Allowed output transports are pad v120 telnet.
Preferred transport is telnet.
No output characters are padded
No special data dispatching characters
 End 

I had replace the 7204, reboot the TS3550, replace TOD converter and
related cable.but no luck. Any idea?

Dear Mark Allwright, Can I have your Application Note 600?

Thanks in advance for any suggestion.

Best Reg.

Bob
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