Re: [time-nuts] SA22.c and Lady Heather

2017-10-13 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

machine shop a flake.  retrieving my stuff on monday,

sorry...  now what?

73

dave


On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Dave Mallery  wrote:

> hi
>
> i got through the smoke to a machine shop today and should have an
> estimate for eight SA22.c sinks shortly.
>
> dave
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Dave Mallery 
> wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> on the 2011 or newer items, they include this link calibration data plot.
>> <http://www.rdrelectronics.com/skip/feb/EC0329.gif>
>>
>> i received a printed one with the unit.
>>
>> dave
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Mark Sims  wrote:
>>
>>> The data that RDR showed was from the SA22.c "w" command.  I think he
>>> was just using a terminal program.
>>>
>>> Attached is a screen dump of Heather doing a software disciplining
>>> algorithm on a SA22.c (using the dev board as an interface).  The 1PPS
>>> reference that I am using is the nosiest one that I had handy (LEA 5T,
>>> indoor antenna,  second 1PPS output... it has over +/- 66 ns of jitter).
>>>
>>> Heather can also calibrate the SA22 / X72 frequency output.  You apply a
>>> 1PPS input,  enter &a and a sample count (default 1800 seconds).  It then
>>> calculates the drift rate from a linear regression trend line and sets the
>>> device DDS tuning word.  The resolution of the DDS in the device is around
>>> 2.5E-12 / count.
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Re: [time-nuts] SA22.c and Lady Heather

2017-09-08 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i got through the smoke to a machine shop today and should have an estimate
for eight SA22.c sinks shortly.

dave

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Dave Mallery  wrote:

> hi
>
> on the 2011 or newer items, they include this link calibration data plot.
> <http://www.rdrelectronics.com/skip/feb/EC0329.gif>
>
> i received a printed one with the unit.
>
> dave
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Mark Sims  wrote:
>
>> The data that RDR showed was from the SA22.c "w" command.  I think he was
>> just using a terminal program.
>>
>> Attached is a screen dump of Heather doing a software disciplining
>> algorithm on a SA22.c (using the dev board as an interface).  The 1PPS
>> reference that I am using is the nosiest one that I had handy (LEA 5T,
>> indoor antenna,  second 1PPS output... it has over +/- 66 ns of jitter).
>>
>> Heather can also calibrate the SA22 / X72 frequency output.  You apply a
>> 1PPS input,  enter &a and a sample count (default 1800 seconds).  It then
>> calculates the drift rate from a linear regression trend line and sets the
>> device DDS tuning word.  The resolution of the DDS in the device is around
>> 2.5E-12 / count.
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Re: [time-nuts] SA22.c and Lady Heather

2017-09-02 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

on the 2011 or newer items, they include this link calibration data plot.
<http://www.rdrelectronics.com/skip/feb/EC0329.gif>

i received a printed one with the unit.

dave

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Mark Sims  wrote:

> The data that RDR showed was from the SA22.c "w" command.  I think he was
> just using a terminal program.
>
> Attached is a screen dump of Heather doing a software disciplining
> algorithm on a SA22.c (using the dev board as an interface).  The 1PPS
> reference that I am using is the nosiest one that I had handy (LEA 5T,
> indoor antenna,  second 1PPS output... it has over +/- 66 ns of jitter).
>
> Heather can also calibrate the SA22 / X72 frequency output.  You apply a
> 1PPS input,  enter &a and a sample count (default 1800 seconds).  It then
> calculates the drift rate from a linear regression trend line and sets the
> device DDS tuning word.  The resolution of the DDS in the device is around
> 2.5E-12 / count.
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Re: [time-nuts] SA22.c and Lady Heather

2017-08-30 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i was prepping for some machine shop work on a heatsink for the SA22.c.

there seems to be an error in the designers reference and user manual on
page 22.

the bottom view drawing at the far low right shows a measurement of the
distance between the edge of the board and the hole just below and to the
right of the SAMETC connector... it shows a distance of 15.95mm.  my
measure is about 25mm...that's measured on the development board.

YMMV

thanks

dave

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Dave Mallery 
wrote:

> hi mark et al...
>
> i was lucky enough to bet that that card was an sa22.c development board
> and got one.
>
> ordered the sa22 and please point me at the code as it develops.
>
> thanks!
>
> dave
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:
>
>> I got in a SA22.c rubidium from RDR electronics and one of those
>> interface boards that appeared briefly on Ebay last week (he had 6 for $7
>> each and they went fast... there is another seller that has one for $80).
>>  The X72 code that I added to Lady Heather works with the SA22.   I'm still
>> working on improving the software disciplining algorithm.
>>
>> If you bought one of those adapter cards note that you will need a F-F
>> adapter to use them with a standard serial cable.  Since the adapter has a
>> male connector,  I thought it needed a null modem cable... nope... just
>> more Symmetricom ridiculousness at work...
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Re: [time-nuts] SA22.c and Lady Heather

2017-08-27 Thread Dave Mallery
hi mark et al...

i was lucky enough to bet that that card was an sa22.c development board
and got one.

ordered the sa22 and please point me at the code as it develops.

thanks!

dave

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:

> I got in a SA22.c rubidium from RDR electronics and one of those interface
> boards that appeared briefly on Ebay last week (he had 6 for $7 each and
> they went fast... there is another seller that has one for $80).   The X72
> code that I added to Lady Heather works with the SA22.   I'm still working
> on improving the software disciplining algorithm.
>
> If you bought one of those adapter cards note that you will need a F-F
> adapter to use them with a standard serial cable.  Since the adapter has a
> male connector,  I thought it needed a null modem cable... nope... just
> more Symmetricom ridiculousness at work...
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Re: [time-nuts] Problems with TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-07-04 Thread Dave Mallery
hi chris

i could not get TXD to flash till i connected the unit to Lady Heather
V5.01.

once the unit was communicating with the LH program (much serial wizardry)
all was well.

73

dave k5en

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Chris Waldrup  wrote:

> Has anyone else received a unit they can't get to work?
> I got my unit finally boxed up a few weeks back. The PPS LED flashes and
> power LED and RXD LED's light but the TxD doesn't.
> I've ordered replacement MAX chips and 74ACT04 chips from Digi-Key but
> this didn't solve the problem.
> As a next step I've found a Oncore M12 board on eBay coming from China and
> this should come in a few weeks.
> No serial communications unfortunately.
> I've also tried swapping pins 2 and 3 on the DB9 just in case RX and TX
> were swapped (although I had originally built the cable as per the
> schematic with the kit) but still no luck.
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> Chris
> KD4PBJ
>
> > On Apr 29, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Chris Albertson 
> wrote:
> >
> > On this product people are going to want holes drilled and I think a "D"
> > shape hole for the DB type connector.   The holes would allow easy
> clamping
> > but in a two step operation.If I were making these I'd first clamp
> the
> > stock over a pair of 123 blocks, mill the holes, then after I hade a
> batch
> > of these made,  hole the holes to hold the part a fixture and then mill
> the
> > edges.
> >
> > But that said, I could make a pair of these by hand with hack saw, file
> and
> > drill press in about 15 minutes.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Jerry Hancock 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Generally, the way I mill plates such as these is I surface a piece of
> >> scrap and then glue (using superglue) the stock down onto the scrap.  I
> can
> >> then machine around the edges without worrying about clamping.  With
> >> pockets though, the torque even when ramping down might break the part
> >> loose.
> >>
> >
> > --
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> > Redondo Beach, California
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Re: [time-nuts] Problems with TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-07-04 Thread Dave Mallery
... btw,  the cable is correct as documented.

 and mark will send you a link to LH v6

dave

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Dave Mallery 
wrote:

> hi chris
>
> i could not get TXD to flash till i connected the unit to Lady Heather
> V5.01.
>
> once the unit was communicating with the LH program (much serial wizardry)
> all was well.
>
> 73
>
> dave k5en
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Chris Waldrup  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else received a unit they can't get to work?
>> I got my unit finally boxed up a few weeks back. The PPS LED flashes and
>> power LED and RXD LED's light but the TxD doesn't.
>> I've ordered replacement MAX chips and 74ACT04 chips from Digi-Key but
>> this didn't solve the problem.
>> As a next step I've found a Oncore M12 board on eBay coming from China
>> and this should come in a few weeks.
>> No serial communications unfortunately.
>> I've also tried swapping pins 2 and 3 on the DB9 just in case RX and TX
>> were swapped (although I had originally built the cable as per the
>> schematic with the kit) but still no luck.
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> Chris
>> KD4PBJ
>>
>> > On Apr 29, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Chris Albertson <
>> albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > On this product people are going to want holes drilled and I think a "D"
>> > shape hole for the DB type connector.   The holes would allow easy
>> clamping
>> > but in a two step operation.If I were making these I'd first clamp
>> the
>> > stock over a pair of 123 blocks, mill the holes, then after I hade a
>> batch
>> > of these made,  hole the holes to hold the part a fixture and then mill
>> the
>> > edges.
>> >
>> > But that said, I could make a pair of these by hand with hack saw, file
>> and
>> > drill press in about 15 minutes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Jerry Hancock 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Generally, the way I mill plates such as these is I surface a piece of
>> >> scrap and then glue (using superglue) the stock down onto the scrap.
>> I can
>> >> then machine around the edges without worrying about clamping.  With
>> >> pockets though, the torque even when ramping down might break the part
>> >> loose.
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Chris Albertson
>> > Redondo Beach, California
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Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help...

2017-06-20 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

many thanks to all!

it was much simpler:  the pins in the power plug on the Tbolt had gradually
slid up in the connector block till the -12 disconnected.
all this in a closed insulated box on the wall!!!

humbled and happy

73,

dave mallery, k5en

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J. L. Trantham  wrote:

> I had a T-Bolt 'failure' when my -12V supply died.
>
> I am aware of another event on the list when the solder connection at the
> -12V connector to the t-Bolt failed.
>
> Make sure the -12V is reaching the PCB for the T-Bolt.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van
> Baak
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:42 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help...
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I
> did not look into it.
>
> Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one.
> Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply
> voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails
> it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and
> use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial
> transceiver.
>
> Thanks,
> /tvb
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Mallery" 
> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <
> time-nuts@febo.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM
> Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help...
>
>
> > hi
> >
> > My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.
> >
> > It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
> > coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor,
> as
> > well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
> > cables involved.
> >
> > If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
> > fixable?
> >
> > many thanks in advance!
> >
> > dave mallery
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help - port stops talking

2017-06-19 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i have powered down a few times and no no joy

thanks

dave

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Mike Naruta AA8K  wrote:

> On 06/19/2017 04:16 PM, Dave Mallery wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.
>>
>> It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
>> coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
>> well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
>> cables involved.
>>
>> If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
>> fixable?
>>
>> many thanks in advance!
>>
>> dave mallery
>>
>>
>
> If you do a power-down reset, does it start talking again?  I had one that
> did that.
>
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[time-nuts] TBolt help...

2017-06-19 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR GPS Experimenters Kit

2017-06-14 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i got and compiled the latest heather from Mark... v5.01.

you can tell her that it is a moto receiver.  there is a lot of discovery
commotion on the screen at startup.
i run it on a pi-3.

good luck

dave



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Jerry Hancock  wrote:

> I noticed when I powered it up that the TX light blinked whether there was
> a PC connected or not, so I guess the PC doesn’t need to poll it for a
> response.  I assume you have the voltage set correctly?  There are two
> options, one regulated and the other not.  I also assume you have tried POR
> a few times.  Lastly, pretty basic, but it might not transmit without an
> antenna.   But something doesn’t make sense and that is the RX led
> flashing.  I don’t want to imply you have the RX and TX mixed up, but I
> just checked mine and after POR, from the left, I have PPS, RX, TX and
> Power with the PPS and TX blinking.  This is without any PC code running.
> I would start up Lady Heather and see what happens.  Then you should see RX
> followed by TX after PPS with Green power on solid.  The PPS pulse is 198us
> wide on mine.  Also, I might have an older version, I think it is a 2002
> series.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Chris Waldrup  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have my board packaged up and am trying to get it working.
> > Last night I built the cable to split out serial, 1 PPS and power.
> > My unit powers up, and the 1 PPS and RxD LEDs are flashing and the green
> power LED is solid on.
> > However I can't get serial to work and the TxD LED isn't flashing.
> > I verified the pinout of the cable I made with a DMM. Pins 2 and 3 are
> swapped between connectors so the RX is going to TX for each of the two
> lines and pin 5 ground is the same on both D sub 9 connectors.
> > I have tried Lady Heather, Tboltmon, and even just pulling up
> hyperterminal and I'm getting nothing.
> > My settings are COM1 9600 8-N-1 and I'm using a Dell laptop that has an
> actual serial port and am running XP.
> > When I'm Thunderbolt Monitor program, the green TX LED icon on the
> screen flashes and when it does the RxD lights on the M12+.
> > Just no TxD coming out of the M12+.
> > Has anyone else had a problem with this? If so is it fixable?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 3, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Gregory Beat  wrote:
> >>
> >> Jerry -
> >>
> >> I rarely use "raw" Oncore M12 commands these days, using one of the 3
> common PC programs: Lady Heather, TAC32/SynTAC, M12Oncore(old Moto pgm).
> >>
> >> How are you routing that 1 PPS signal?  Does your front LED pulse?
> >> I wire 1 PPS to the DCD pin (DE-9M, standard RS-232), TAC32 can be
> configured for "which pin" (DE-9M) to sense that PPS signal.
> >> This is why I prefer to use Mark Sims' Lady Heather or Rick Hambly's
> TAC32.
> >> TAC32 program has a quick setting for config. receiver as Timing or
> Navigation.
> >>
> >> IF you continue to have issues, perform the Hardware Reset (Lady
> Heather).
> >> That will return your receiver to default factory with cleared settings.
> >>
> >> greg
> >> ---
> >> Greg, Funny.
> >> Some of the Lucent boxes have been in strange places as well.
> >> Can you please check your PPS to see if you get a signal when in that
> other mode (where it needs at least one sat locked)?
> >>
> >> Sent from iPad Air
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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR GPS Experimenters Kit

2017-06-04 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

I have been having great results with my M12 and Lady H.  I (foolish me)
had tried to cobble up a Perl program at first...  just browse through some
of the 400+ pages of heathgps.cpp to see why that was a bad idea!  Both my
M12 and my Tbolt are controlled by Heather running on two PI3s.

Now, i would like to get a Lucent RFTG-u REV-0 to run using the PPS from
the M12.  there is a nice PPS interrupt driven arduino sketch on the Sync
Channel Blog.  I'd love to hear from anyone who is also trying this.

73

dave mallery, k5en


On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Gregory Beat  wrote:

> Mark -
> Yes, it does. :-)
> The "S" and "!" menus are the most frequent menus I use with LH.
>
> Jerry is using SynTAC.
> After a few e-mail exchanges, off-list, problem was antenna location.
>
> gb
> ===
> So does Lady Heather... the "S" menu control things like self-surveys,
> entering fixed position coordinates,  and the receiver operating mode.  SN
> will put it in Navigation (3D) mode.  SH will put it in position Hold mode
> (timing mode).
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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-28 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i posted much earlier.  status: the M12 works wonderfully with lady heather
v5 from mark sims.  mine has completed its 48 hour precision survey and is
purring along.

so far, i have had trouble with the serial to usb converter i picked up.
the one on my other pi3/Tbolt rig runs fine.

can anyone speak to the issues involved in attaching an oscillator?

thanks

dave mallery, k5en

On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Jerry Hancock  wrote:

> Is there a way I can help with this project?  If I had the specs to look
> at, maybe I would be able to run off a bunch of plates.  If we could batch
> them up I would do them for the cost of shipping.
>
> Does anyone have a dimensioned print, picture, cad drawing of the plates?
>
>
>
> > On Apr 28, 2017, at 11:33 AM, jimlux  wrote:
> >
> > On 4/28/17 10:09 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> If you go with the PCB approach, the nice thing is getting stuff like
> >> the slot for the D connector done at the PCB fab. That way you
> >> have something that drops right in and works. The downside is that
> >> not every pcb house is happy doing that sort of “CNC work”.  I
> >> have absolutely no idea why. They all have to run some sort of gear
> >> to cut the boards apart. Cutting slots or weird holes with it is pretty
> >> trivial.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >
> > what about Front Panel Express?  They're in the whole business of small
> run panels.  Not the cheapest place around, and you use their design tool,
> but I've been happy with the quality of their work.
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-22 Thread Dave Mallery
Hi Mark

I was delighted to read about Heather's ability to talk to a timing M12.  I
have been having fits here trying to get the M12 to accept any command
(using Perl.. a mistake it seems).  i wanted to end up with a Linux capable
utility and had previously used Perl to parse NEMA on my old TAC2.

I have been learning about binmode(M12) and other edge cases, but am
probably still far from the eureka moment..

anyhow, i am setting up heather5 for a trial flight.

thanks

dave mallery



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> Earlier somebody asked if these were M12's or M12T's.I powered mine up
> and connected it to Lady Heather. It appears to be an M12T.   It responds
> to the survey and position hold commands and outputs the sawtooth
> correction value. Also the hardware ID returned is P373T12T12.
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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-22 Thread Dave Mallery
amazing.

especially after a week of effort.

thank you.

dave

On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dave Mallery 
wrote:

> Hi Mark
>
> I was delighted to read about Heather's ability to talk to a timing M12.
> I have been having fits here trying to get the M12 to accept any command
> (using Perl.. a mistake it seems).  i wanted to end up with a Linux capable
> utility and had previously used Perl to parse NEMA on my old TAC2.
>
> I have been learning about binmode(M12) and other edge cases, but am
> probably still far from the eureka moment..
>
> anyhow, i am setting up heather5 for a trial flight.
>
> thanks
>
> dave mallery
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:
>
>> Earlier somebody asked if these were M12's or M12T's.I powered mine
>> up and connected it to Lady Heather. It appears to be an M12T.   It
>> responds to the survey and position hold commands and outputs the sawtooth
>> correction value. Also the hardware ID returned is P373T12T12.
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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-06 Thread Dave Mallery
... an hour later...  of course, the power was reversed!!!  positive now
pin 8 on the DB9 going to the mobo.

perhaps i should go back to writing software!

suitably humiliated.

73

dave - k5en

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Dave Mallery  wrote:

> hi
>
> after carefully crafting the suggested db9mf cable (with 16vdc on 7 & 8+)
> i powered up, but no green led...
>
> the db9 to chassis seems ok. but am still engaged.  there is no voltage
> across the backup battery (the holder seems slightly bent).
>
> the lack of a schematic for the mobo is a big problem.  any documentation
> on the 10-pin interconnect to the m12 would be nice.
>
> i guess this is what you call a slow start...
>
> 73
>
> dave - k5en
>
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 11:49 AM, Dan Rae  wrote:
>
>> Worth looking closely at these if you've bought one.  On mine, apart from
>> the connector to the DB9 being pulled off and some pins bent, which I could
>> fix, there are two tiny SM ceramic caps that have been knocked off the M12
>> GPS board, both hanging by one of the detached PC traces.   This I may be
>> able to fix, but I'm not certain obviously :^)
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] TAPR Oncore M12+ kit

2017-04-06 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

after carefully crafting the suggested db9mf cable (with 16vdc on 7 & 8+) i
powered up, but no green led...

the db9 to chassis seems ok. but am still engaged.  there is no voltage
across the backup battery (the holder seems slightly bent).

the lack of a schematic for the mobo is a big problem.  any documentation
on the 10-pin interconnect to the m12 would be nice.

i guess this is what you call a slow start...

73

dave - k5en

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> Worth looking closely at these if you've bought one.  On mine, apart from
> the connector to the DB9 being pulled off and some pins bent, which I could
> fix, there are two tiny SM ceramic caps that have been knocked off the M12
> GPS board, both hanging by one of the detached PC traces.   This I may be
> able to fix, but I'm not certain obviously :^)
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Venus838LPx-T opinions?

2016-07-24 Thread Dave Mallery
I have been running Heather on Ubuntu MATE 16-04 since Mark released it.
Wonderful.

Currently running or a R Pi 3B with lots of machine to spare!

Cheers!

Dave Mallery

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:

> I am the creator author of Lady Heather.   The code in Lady Heather
> started out from a program that I wrote  to control Magellan GPS receivers
> (like the OEM-5000) back in days of the first Gulf War... it ran under DOS
> as a text mode only program.
>
> When TAPR did their group buy for Trimble Thunderbolts I bought one and
> modified the code to work with it.   Again, basically a DOS program that
> could run under Windows and do some plotting.   The idea was to keep it
> simple and had a lot of kludges to minimize memory usages so it could run
> on low-end discarded machines.
>
> John Miles added support for running properly under Windows using his
> WIN_VFX library.   Then the fun began and things began to get out of
> control.   Lots of new features,  silly features,  useful features, not so
> useful features were added.   There is still code/compile options in there
> for a DOS compatible compile, but too much has been added for that to ever
> work again...
>
> A few months back, I added support for working under Linux using X11 as
> the graphics / keyboard interface.  That code is what it in the Rev 4.0
> beta that is on John's web site.
>
> Lately I have been adding support for working with receivers other than
> those in the Trimble Thunderbolt family.   It is now working with Trimble,
> Motorola, Jupiter, Sirf, Venus, Ublox, NMEA, SCPI (Z38xx), UCCM, and a few
> others.  It also works with GPSD (a sort of universal GPS receiver
> interface for Linux).  It can also work as a system clock display without a
> GPS receiver connected.
>
> I hope to have the newest code finalized and released shortly... I'm
> waiting on a couple of new receivers to come in.
>
> Lady Heather is free, open-source software now released under the very
> permissive MIT license...
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> to the cause?
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather coming soon to a Linux box near you...

2016-04-25 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

looking to get the l/h sources on my linux box.  the l/h download button on
the web site only brings in the setup.exe which i presume does the windows
download.

what to do?

thanks.

dave mallery

On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:

> The question came up about Lady Heather's system usage on a PI3.  Turn's
> out she's quite the little resource hog.  CPU usage hovers between a
> whooping 2 and 3 percent ;-)   Running on a PI2 showed about the same.
>
> Slinging a window violently around on the srceen and it peaks to around
> 20%.  So there should be a few CPU cycles left over for whatever...
> Amazing what you can buy for $35 these days.  Or $5 for a Pi Zero... but
> it's only a single core processor... and likely to be in very short supply
> for a long time... they only build them when their production line is idle.
>
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Re: [time-nuts] A few questions about Tboltmon

2015-08-08 Thread Dave Mallery
n with various
> numbers which I assume are satellite ID numbers. When I woke up Sunday I
> was down to seeing only two satellites. The numbers listed were different
> than the ones I saw before I went to bed Saturday.  But when I unplugged
> the AC power from the Thunderbolt and plugged it back in, I was back to six
> satellites.
> >>> >>  I had thought that the GPS satellites I am able to see from my
> location are fixed 24/7. Do they move and different satellites come into
> view with rotation of the earth?
> >>> >> I did a warm reset when I got up at 4:45 this morning and when I
> got home, four satellites were still green on Tboltmon. About an hour ago I
> went ahead and did a cold reset.
> >>> >> I now have 6 satellites where the SV is green, and one with a
> yellow SV with a value of 7.0.
> >>> >> All critical alarms are green, and all minor alarms are green
> except position questionable which is yellow. That has been yellow since
> Saturday.
> >>> >> Under the Disciplining status, Mode is (0) Normal and Activity is
> (0) Phase Locking.
> >>> >> The Timing Outputs are all over the place and have been since
> Saturday. Twenty minutes ago I got:
> >>> >> PPS  -106588.28 ns GPS
> >>> >> 10 MHz  166.08 ppb
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So far today I have gotten the following ppb readings:
> >>> >> -41.48
> >>> >> 374.30
> >>> >> 0.48
> >>> >> 0.70
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Should the Timing output variance concern me?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Chris
> >>> >> KD4PBJ
> >>> >> Monteagle, TN
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> —
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather

2015-03-17 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i wanted to give a status update on the wining of the lady...

from an installation perspective, it has been a study in "back to basics":
chown vs editing /etc/group and cd "Program Files (x86)" to get past the
"(".

from the app view, i see that my rooftop antenna leaves a LOT to be desired
(the OR coast is very vertical to the east) and large trees close in are
bad.

i think there is another problem:  watching the 10MHz on two counters i see
the Hz digit 10,000,00n varying about ten (down for quite a while then back
up.

perhaps this a caused by the lousy view from the antenna... having only a
single sat most of the time leads to a holdover every 15-20 minutes.
both counters vary the same way, and only differ be about 2 Hz... so it
probably is real.  my late-lamented Rb unit was much more stable.

the antenna is fixable... it has to be moved from the current location to
the highest i can get it off the shop roof.  that will take me a while.

many thanks to all who helped.

dave

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Adrian Godwin  wrote:

> The ttyS* devices should be owned by root and be in the dialout group, eg
>
> crw-rw---T 1 root dialout 4, 64 Feb 28 08:31 /dev/ttyS0
> crw-rw---T 1 root dialout 4, 65 Feb 28 08:31 /dev/ttyS1
> crw-rw---T 1 root dialout 4, 66 Feb 28 08:31 /dev/ttyS2
> crw-rw---T 1 root dialout 4, 67 Feb 28 08:31 /dev/ttyS3
>
> Rather than chowning them to your username, put your user in the dialout
> group.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Dave Mallery 
> wrote:
>
> > Lady Heather lives on linux (ubuntu 14-10,  amd64)!
> >
> > as usual, the serial line connection to COM1 lived up to its reputation
> for
> > stubbornness.
> > i have to change the ownership of /dev/ttyS0 back to my username after
> > every boot.
> >
> > previously, i had one of those lil 2-line displays from china.  now i am
> > drowning in numbers.
> >
> >
> > did anyone ever document the screen?
> >
> > many thanks
> >
> > dave k5en
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Dave Mallery 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > thanks Chuck!
> > >
> > > i will continue the installation process (new machine with quirks).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Chuck Harris 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I Do.  She works with wine on linux, and likes it!
> > >>
> > >> -Chuck Harris
> > >>
> > >> Dave Mallery wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> hi
> > >>>
> > >>> does anyone have the lady running on WINE under Linux??
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Paul Berger 
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  I have also used LH with a Thunderbolt 'E' and did not have any
> > issues,
> > >>>> however I have not turned on the E for some time now.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Paul
> > >>>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather

2015-03-13 Thread Dave Mallery
Lady Heather lives on linux (ubuntu 14-10,  amd64)!

as usual, the serial line connection to COM1 lived up to its reputation for
stubbornness.
i have to change the ownership of /dev/ttyS0 back to my username after
every boot.

previously, i had one of those lil 2-line displays from china.  now i am
drowning in numbers.


did anyone ever document the screen?

many thanks

dave k5en

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Dave Mallery 
wrote:

> thanks Chuck!
>
> i will continue the installation process (new machine with quirks).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Chuck Harris  wrote:
>
>> I Do.  She works with wine on linux, and likes it!
>>
>> -Chuck Harris
>>
>> Dave Mallery wrote:
>>
>>> hi
>>>
>>> does anyone have the lady running on WINE under Linux??
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Paul Berger  wrote:
>>>
>>>  I have also used LH with a Thunderbolt 'E' and did not have any issues,
>>>> however I have not turned on the E for some time now.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather

2015-03-11 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

does anyone have the lady running on WINE under Linux??

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Paul Berger  wrote:

> I have also used LH with a Thunderbolt 'E' and did not have any issues,
> however I have not turned on the E for some time now.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 2015-03-11 9:04 PM, James Tucker wrote:
>
>> Mark, and anyone else interested;
>>
>> I have an 'E' Thunderbolt, and use LH3.10 to monitor it contiguously, and
>> with no issues not related to the device itself (iffy eeprom/flash,
>> crystal
>> jumps), but it even shows all 12 slots for available birds, so it works
>> fine for me on W7Pro. No special command line options for serial port.
>> EdgePort USB converter.
>>
>> JimT
>>
>> Sent from *my* galaxy (Nexus).
>> On Mar 9, 2015 10:37 PM, "Mark Sims"  wrote:
>>
>>  Lady Heather is set up to run the serial port at 9600,8,N,1   If it sees
>>> data errors,  after around 20-35 seconds or so,  it toggles to 9600,8,O,1
>>>   This feature was added to support the Trimble Resolution timing
>>> receivers.   You can try the /rt command line option and see if that
>>> makes
>>> any difference.  That will force the ODD  parity flag.  Or you might try
>>> configuring the receiver for 9600,8,N,1 via the Trimble software. BTW,
>>> Lady
>>> Heather has never been officially tested with the Thunderbolt-E ...
>>> nobody
>>> seems to use/have them.
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Re: [time-nuts] fts 4060

2011-03-15 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

my 5370b is externally "standardised" by my tbolt.
the 4060 is locked, but is showing both alarm and align lites.

i am seeing 1 maybe 2 parts in 10**-9.

am i just looking at the tbolt moving around, or is it the 4060.

i think i will have to center the xtal oscillator.

new territory for me.

thanks

dave

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Dave Mallery wrote:

> update:  by centring the beam and control voltages, i got a lock.
>
> i still have the align and alarm lites on.  monitor lite off, lock on.
>
> back to the book.
>
> dave
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Kevin Rosenberg wrote:
>
>> On Mar 13, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Dave Mallery wrote:
>> > last friday being my birthday, i found myself at the albuquerque
>> auction.
>>
>> Hi Dave, is there an announcement place for the auctions in ABQ? I'd
>> be interested in going to one. I happen to live in Albuquerque. Does
>> Brooke live in Abq as well? I did see he had a rt66.com web domain.
>>
>> Sorry, I don't know anything about Cs tubes. I did buy a 2-year old
>> PRS-10 s few months ago, fortunately it is working well. Unfortunately,
>> it's not a frequency standard like a Cs clock :)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Kevin Rosenberg, KR5F
>> k...@debian.org
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] pts 160 power problem

2011-03-14 Thread Dave Mallery
thanks!  will try that in the morning.

dave

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Don Henderickx wrote:

> On 3/14/2011 11:00 AM, Dave Mallery wrote:
>
>> hi
>>
>> having finally acquired a stiff supply, i
>>
>> put in the requested 5.4vdc and the unit draws the specified 1.5a..
>>
>> still not working, no output signal, so back to the manual.
>>
>> dave
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM, EB4APL
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> Since this thread is about a PTS repair, I think this is not too much OT.
>>>  I need the manual for my PTS 040, I already have one for the 160 from
>>> Didier's site and while both models are similar end employ most the same
>>> modules, I would like to have the specific one for my model.
>>> According to PTS web site this model is still on production, but I think
>>> that asking PTS for one would cost me much more than I paid for the real
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> If anybody knows were I can get one I'll appreciate very much.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ignacio, EB4APL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El 26/02/2011 0:27, J. Forster wrote:
>>>
>>>  That depends on the phase of the moon and your religion.
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes low-ESR aluminum; other times good Tantalums (150D or CS-13s)
>>>>
>>>> No two people agree on this issue.
>>>>
>>>> -John
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  thanks everyone.
>>>>
>>>>> i found a cache of tantalum caps in the output amp module.  also, there
>>>>> isn't any output any more.
>>>>> struggling to get all those @#@ screws out so i can get to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> should i find new tantalum caps, or is there a better substitute?
>>>>>
>>>>> dave
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM,   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  In a message dated<25%2F02%2F2011%2017> <25%2F02%2F2011%2017>25/02/2011
>>>>> 17:13:01 GMT
>>>>>
>>>>>  Standard Time,
>>>>>> dave.mall...@gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i tried  another more robust 5v supply, but that goes to 4.5v and ng
>>>>>> output.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i  removed each of the plug-in decades, one at a time, looking for the
>>>>>> guilty
>>>>>> one.  no joy.  i also removed the left rear module (uses  5v).  the
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> modules only use 12v. which is fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> has  anyone been here before?  could it be a problem in the backplane
>>>>>> (a
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> of art, btw)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Hi Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used quite a few of these and have never yet experienced an
>>>>>>  actual
>>>>>> component failure, obviously not saying it can't happen just that
>>>>>>  once
>>>>>> sorted
>>>>>> yours should remain pretty reliable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As John already suggested I'd also look for possible fautly tantalums
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> other capacitors across the supply but would also suggest removing all
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> modules from the motherboard at the same time before proceeding any
>>>>>> furter
>>>>>> and checking if the symptoms still persist.
>>>>>> I know what you've done has probably eliminated the modules but it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be a shame to tear into the backplane if you just happened to have
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>  than
>>>>>> one faulty module.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did once receive a previously working PTS160 by post that refused to
>>>>>> play
>>>>>>  and eventually located a very small solder blob, presumably  from
>>>>>> inside
>>>>>> the associated module, that had dropped into an edge  connecto

Re: [time-nuts] fts 4060

2011-03-14 Thread Dave Mallery
update:  by centring the beam and control voltages, i got a lock.

i still have the align and alarm lites on.  monitor lite off, lock on.

back to the book.

dave

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Kevin Rosenberg wrote:

> On Mar 13, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Dave Mallery wrote:
> > last friday being my birthday, i found myself at the albuquerque auction.
>
> Hi Dave, is there an announcement place for the auctions in ABQ? I'd
> be interested in going to one. I happen to live in Albuquerque. Does
> Brooke live in Abq as well? I did see he had a rt66.com web domain.
>
> Sorry, I don't know anything about Cs tubes. I did buy a 2-year old
> PRS-10 s few months ago, fortunately it is working well. Unfortunately,
> it's not a frequency standard like a Cs clock :)
>
> Best,
>
> Kevin Rosenberg, KR5F
> k...@debian.org
>
>


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Re: [time-nuts] pts 160 power problem

2011-03-14 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

yes, an internal and my external 10MHz (tbolt).

will perform the manual check-out.

thanks

dave

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:03 AM,  wrote:

>
> In a message dated 14/03/2011 16:01:05 GMT Standard Time,
> dave.mall...@gmail.com writes:
>
> having  finally acquired a stiff supply, i
>
> put in the requested 5.4vdc and the  unit draws the specified 1.5a..
>
> still not working, no output signal, so  back to the manual.
>
>
>
> ---
> Silly question perhaps but it does have a frequency standard fitted and it
> is switched to internal?
> Apologies if this has been discussed before, head a bit sieve like  these
> days, but it's not unusual for some variants to be supplied without  the
> internal standard on the assumption an external reference will be  used.
>
> If the answer is "yes" then I would suggest using a 'scope, plus frequency
> counter if possible, to track internally against the diagrams in the manual
> to  see just what signals are being produced and whether or not they're as
> expected.
>
> All the necessary information for signal tracing is in the manual and it
> even suggests that most basic functional checks can be made with a DMM and
> 20MHz  frequency counter.
>
> regards
>
> Nigel
> GM8PZR
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Re: [time-nuts] pts 160 power problem

2011-03-14 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

having finally acquired a stiff supply, i

put in the requested 5.4vdc and the unit draws the specified 1.5a..

still not working, no output signal, so back to the manual.

dave

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:59 PM, EB4APL  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Since this thread is about a PTS repair, I think this is not too much OT.
>  I need the manual for my PTS 040, I already have one for the 160 from
> Didier's site and while both models are similar end employ most the same
> modules, I would like to have the specific one for my model.
> According to PTS web site this model is still on production, but I think
> that asking PTS for one would cost me much more than I paid for the real
> thing.
>
> If anybody knows were I can get one I'll appreciate very much.
>
> Regards,
> Ignacio, EB4APL
>
>
>
> El 26/02/2011 0:27, J. Forster wrote:
>
>> That depends on the phase of the moon and your religion.
>>
>> Sometimes low-ESR aluminum; other times good Tantalums (150D or CS-13s)
>>
>> No two people agree on this issue.
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ==
>>
>>
>>  thanks everyone.
>>>
>>> i found a cache of tantalum caps in the output amp module.  also, there
>>> isn't any output any more.
>>> struggling to get all those @#@ screws out so i can get to them.
>>>
>>> should i find new tantalum caps, or is there a better substitute?
>>>
>>> dave
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM,  wrote:
>>>
>>>  In a message dated <25%2F02%2F2011%2017>25/02/2011 17:13:01 GMT
>>>> Standard Time,
>>>> dave.mall...@gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> i tried  another more robust 5v supply, but that goes to 4.5v and ng
>>>> output.
>>>>
>>>> i  removed each of the plug-in decades, one at a time, looking for the
>>>> guilty
>>>> one.  no joy.  i also removed the left rear module (uses  5v).  the
>>>> other
>>>> two
>>>> modules only use 12v. which is fine.
>>>>
>>>> has  anyone been here before?  could it be a problem in the backplane (a
>>>> work
>>>> of art, btw)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Hi Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've used quite a few of these and have never yet experienced an  actual
>>>> component failure, obviously not saying it can't happen just that  once
>>>> sorted
>>>> yours should remain pretty reliable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As John already suggested I'd also look for possible fautly tantalums or
>>>> other capacitors across the supply but would also suggest removing all
>>>> the
>>>> modules from the motherboard at the same time before proceeding any
>>>> furter
>>>> and checking if the symptoms still persist.
>>>> I know what you've done has probably eliminated the modules but it
>>>> would
>>>> be a shame to tear into the backplane if you just happened to have more
>>>>  than
>>>> one faulty module.
>>>>
>>>> I did once receive a previously working PTS160 by post that refused to
>>>> play
>>>>  and eventually located a very small solder blob, presumably  from
>>>> inside
>>>> the associated module, that had dropped into an edge  connector and
>>>> wedged
>>>> between a couple of pins, that was fun:-)
>>>>
>>>> If you haven't already found it there's a manual for the PT160 on
>>>> Didier's
>>>> site.
>>>>
>>>> _http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05%29_GPS_Timing/PTS_
>>>> (http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05)_GPS_Timing/PTS)
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Nigel
>>>> GM8PZR
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[time-nuts] fts 4060

2011-03-13 Thread Dave Mallery
hello list!

last friday being my birthday, i found myself at the albuquerque auction.

there it was...

so i brought the fts 4060 home and began reading... (many thanks to brooke
clark)

put it all back together and fired it up.

now it has been running for many hours.  no lock.  the readings are in range
and the control is being swept 0-5 for each .1 increment of the beam
current.

i am guessing that the tube (which has probably been off since 2007-8) needs
a lot of vacuum pumping.

is that a good guess?

many thanks

dave

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Re: [time-nuts] pts 160 power problem

2011-02-25 Thread Dave Mallery
thanks everyone.

i found a cache of tantalum caps in the output amp module.  also, there
isn't any output any more.
struggling to get all those @#@ screws out so i can get to them.

should i find new tantalum caps, or is there a better substitute?

dave

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM,  wrote:

>
> In a message dated 25/02/2011 17:13:01 GMT Standard Time,
> dave.mall...@gmail.com writes:
>
> i tried  another more robust 5v supply, but that goes to 4.5v and ng
> output.
>
> i  removed each of the plug-in decades, one at a time, looking for the
> guilty
> one.  no joy.  i also removed the left rear module (uses  5v).  the other
> two
> modules only use 12v. which is fine.
>
> has  anyone been here before?  could it be a problem in the backplane (a
> work
> of art, btw)?
>
>
>
> ---
> Hi Dave
>
>
> I've used quite a few of these and have never yet experienced an  actual
> component failure, obviously not saying it can't happen just that  once
> sorted
> yours should remain pretty reliable.
>
>
> As John already suggested I'd also look for possible fautly tantalums or
> other capacitors across the supply but would also suggest removing all the
> modules from the motherboard at the same time before proceeding any furter
> and checking if the symptoms still persist.
> I know what you've done has probably eliminated the modules but it  would
> be a shame to tear into the backplane if you just happened to have more
>  than
> one faulty module.
>
> I did once receive a previously working PTS160 by post that refused to play
>  and eventually located a very small solder blob, presumably  from inside
> the associated module, that had dropped into an edge  connector and wedged
> between a couple of pins, that was fun:-)
>
> If you haven't already found it there's a manual for the PT160 on Didier's
> site.
>
> _http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05%29_GPS_Timing/PTS_
> (http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=05)_GPS_Timing/PTS)
>
> regards
>
> Nigel
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[time-nuts] pts 160 power problem

2011-02-25 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i recently bought a pts160.  when first turned on, the 5v was pulled quite
low: < 3v.  after an hour or so, the condition cured, the 5v = 5.1v and the
output matched the decades.
then, it died again.  so i know there is a unit worth saving.

i tried another more robust 5v supply, but that goes to 4.5v and ng output.

i removed each of the plug-in decades, one at a time, looking for the guilty
one.  no joy.  i also removed the left rear module (uses 5v).  the other two
modules only use 12v. which is fine.

has anyone been here before?  could it be a problem in the backplane (a work
of art, btw)?

many thanks...

dave
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Re: [time-nuts] OT: 5372A

2010-11-21 Thread Dave Mallery
planning to move to gold beach...

73

dave

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Eric Garner  wrote:

> Out of curiosity, how many other time-nuts are here in Oregon ( besides me,
> and apparantly pete)
>
>
>
> Sent from my Banana Jr. mobile device
>
>
> On Nov 19, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Magnus Danielson 
> wrote:
>
>  On 19/11/10 18:13, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone. The question came up in what I am being charged for
>>> shipping
>>> From Texas to Oregon, $140 UPS Ground. Not complaining since I got the
>>> thing
>>> for $53. Hopefully will be FIP.
>>>
>>> -pete
>>>
>>> PS Thanks also on the battery issue. Next to get a real service manual.
>>>
>>
>> I've done most of the things I need with what's on the net.
>>
>> Replacement of the battery was trivial. Finding out that it was the root
>> cause was a bit less than obvious. The input sensitivity calibration always
>> goes flat-line, being a huge factor of annoying you, as you would need to
>> trim it up on each power-up. It's done with menues and no service-mode
>> required. Replacing the battery is a matter of finding a 3,6V Lithium
>> battery and do some soldering. Then after power-up do the input calibration
>> and you are all set for the next 20 years or so. It is worth the effort and
>> not hard at all.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Magnus
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Re: [time-nuts] OT - New Mexico travel and the VLA

2010-03-26 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

i tried ranchway yesterday.   nice.  i have been here for five years and
never went in before.

73

dave mallery

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Bob Camp  wrote:

> Hi
>
> I haven't been to New Mexico in a lot of years, but if the Ranchway is
> still there, I'd give it a thumbs up as well.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Joseph Gray wrote:
>
> > When in Las Cruces, go to Ranchway on Valley Drive (just south of
> > Picacho). It is my favorite Mexican food restaurant. Their chile is
> > not hot. They have a wide menu selection (including a few
> > non-traditional items) and good prices. They also have excellent
> > barbecue. It's a nice little family run place and has been around
> > since the 70's.
> >
> > We no longer have any decent Italian restaurants in town. For
> > Mediteranian, try International Delights or Tiffany's.
> >
> > For the franchises, there is Chile's, Applebee's and Red Lobster.
> > Sadly, no Olive Garden yet.
> >
> > I haven't been to the VLA in years, but my understanding is that the
> > "real" tour that shows you all the neat stuff isn't offered to regular
> > tourists.
> >
> > Joe Gray
> > KA5ZEC
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 3:37 PM, David Forbes 
> wrote:
> >> Bill Hawkins wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'll be driving around NM the week of April 19th from Albuquerque to
> the
> >>> VLA... up to Los Alamos for the Bradbury museum...
> >>
> >> Never mind the museums in Los Alamos, go to The Black Hole!
> >>
> >> Ed Grothus died last year, but it's still the most amazing surplus store
> on
> >> the planet.
> >>
> >> --David Forbes
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather update in progress

2009-06-24 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

on my amd machines running ubuntu latest, the lady runs, but is
invisibie perhaps toggling the cloaking feature

thanks

dave

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Mark Sims  wrote:

>
> Lady Heather is undergoing her periodic trip to the beauty parlor.  A few
> new gratuitous features have already crept in:
> * You can specify a time/date for the program to exit
> * The satellite elevation shows if the satellite is rising or setting
> * You can show the times in your local time zone
> * Periods of holdover are flagged in the plot
> * The tbolt version and serial info is written to the log file
> * You can specify command line options in a .CFG file
>
> Now would be a good time to suggest any new features that you can't live
> without...
> _
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Re: [time-nuts] Bad capacitors (was Volt-nuts cooperation?)

2009-06-21 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

many thanks for the heads-up on the pg505 caps!

they are supposed to be 350 ufd at 75 vdc.  they are anything but.

(goes back to mixing/matching caps...)

dave

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Mark Sims  wrote:

>
> The problems I saw were mostly hard failures in the caps
> (opens/shorts/etc).  These were in both power caps and signal caps.
>
> One lot that I saw was a group of 12 Mettler scales.  6 were used daily and
> 6 were never used backup units.  When the company shut down the operations
> that used the scales,  they were sold.  All the used units worked fine.  The
> backup units all had capacitor problems.
>
> I also bought a lot of new-in-box Tektronix TM500 modules.  Most wound up
> having flakey capacitors.  BTW,  EVERY (new or used)  Tek  PG505 pulse
> generator you will come across will have bad power supply filter caps...
>  unless they were replaced.
>
>
> 
>
>
> Does this happen even if the electrolytics are reformed before use?
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Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather question serial error

2009-02-22 Thread Dave Mallery
oh yes please!!!

dave

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Magnus Danielson <
mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote:

> David C. Partridge skrev:
> > Yes, Windows always seems to think a Thunderbolt is an MS mouse.  Look
> back
> > in the archives about using /Fastdetect in boot.ini (BTW this doesn't
> work
> > with WinXP 64 - so I had to disable the serial mouse in the devices).
>
> The cure for that is very old - don't have the serial port connected
> during windows booting. It happend to me too, but recalling the old
> workaround and I had no problem what so ever.
>
> I'm considering a Linux port since I want to reduce my dependency on
> Windows at all times.
>
> Cheers,
> Magnus
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Re: [time-nuts] I want a good micro-controller

2008-08-16 Thread Dave Mallery
bill

but wasn't that hardware beautiful??? (gazes at 11/70 backplane on wall...)

dave

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:10 AM, wje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   You certainly don't need formal training to be a good programmer; I've
>   seen plenty of code from CS grads that's terrible, and very nice code
>   from art majors.
>   In my book, a good program is one one that's organized logically, well
>   documented, and performs the job it was designed to do. A god
>   programmer is someone that produces such programs. That's it. The
>   problem is that, with the advent PCs and easily-accessible programming
>   tools, everyone thinks they can write code, and many can't. Then what
>   you end up with is a tangled mess that's unmaintainable and
>   indecipherable.
>   It's interesting that any number of EE's will take great care in
>   circuit design, but then throw together some poorly-designed code to
>   run their beautiful circuit. But, this has been endemic in the hardware
>   industry for as long as I've been around. Hardware companies frequently
>   have the attitude that it's the hardware that's important and the
>   software is just one of those minor bits that has to get tacked on.
>   This was true even for some companies that should have known better;
>   there were plenty of HW engineers I ran into back in the old Digital
>   days that, even though they were building minicomputers, really
>   considered software an unfortunate requirement that had to be shipped
>   with their beautiful hardware.
>   Ah well, this is really wandering off-topic and my blood pressure's
>   going up. I think I'll go write some C code for an 8-bit micro to calm
>   down. And yes, I use vi. :)
> Bill Ezell
> --
> They said 'Windows or better'
> so I used Linux.
>
>Scott Newell wrote:
>
> At 07:36 AM 8/16/2008, wje wrote:
>
>
>
> I have both EE and CS degrees, and I work in both worlds. In my humble
> (but completely accurate and stable) opinion, Basic is not a programming
> language. It's a tool of Satan designed to convince people that they are
> programmers when they really should stick to their janitorial duties.
> This is a subset of the general problem that everyone thinks they are
> programmers, and usually think their code is perfect. But, that's a rant
> for a different audience.
>
>
> So, how do you tell if you're not a programmer, but pretending to be
> one?  My code is far from perfect, but it can usually be made to get
> the job done.  I try not to cut too many corners, and the ones that I
> do cut bother me.  But when you're the lone programmer on projects,
> it's hard to know if you're crummy or decent, since there's no one to
> measure against.  (Of course, there's the metric of 'product shipped,
> product works, bossman happy, paycheck cashed', but that doesn't
> distinguish between good and bad programmers, just programmers that
> can fool others along with themselves.)
>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 1

2008-05-05 Thread Dave Mallery
everyone seems to be replying, so plese count me in for one in the second
batch.

dave mallery

On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Jean-Christophe Deschamps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Warm thanks to everyone involved in making this deal possible.
>
> You can count for 2 (possibly 3) more units in the second batch.
>
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[time-nuts] qst

2008-01-09 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

there is a nice write-up on page 82 of the Feb issue of QST.

dave

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[time-nuts] analog network demise and greetings

2007-12-22 Thread Dave Mallery
hi

been lurking for a while.

with the demise of the nationwide analog cell network, is there to be
a sudden influx of desirable goodies on the surplus market??

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iiczkwxq1jK5IKXGCsNQkWgOHmQAD8TM1PKG0

thanks

dave

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