Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
Besides, they smile a lot, so they must be happy :-) Didier > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Louis Oneto > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:11 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE? > > I never heard a clam complain, so... ;-} Jean-Louis Oneto > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE? > > > > Hi Jeff- > > > > I have only used SatStat with my Z3801A, and it did take a > while to get it > > set up right under XP. I much prefer Tboltmon for the > Thunderbolt. Now > > that both are functional, I can start playing with them. > > > > I found that the Z3801A with the std HP antenna and > recommended cable > > didn't work very well with the antenna in the garage (no > plywood, 1x6s and > > 3 layers of asphalt shingles), it took forever to acquire > sats and would > > lose the lock at the drop of a hat. It had to go out in > the weather to be > > stable. On the other hand, the Thunderbolt antenna is in > the corner of > > the garage, tilted at an angle, with hanging bicycles on > one side and 19" > > racks on another, and is happy as a clam. > > > > Are clams happy? I've always wondered about that saying... > > > > -Dave No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
I never heard a clam complain, so... ;-} Jean-Louis Oneto - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE? > Hi Jeff- > > I have only used SatStat with my Z3801A, and it did take a while to get it > set up right under XP. I much prefer Tboltmon for the Thunderbolt. Now > that both are functional, I can start playing with them. > > I found that the Z3801A with the std HP antenna and recommended cable > didn't work very well with the antenna in the garage (no plywood, 1x6s and > 3 layers of asphalt shingles), it took forever to acquire sats and would > lose the lock at the drop of a hat. It had to go out in the weather to be > stable. On the other hand, the Thunderbolt antenna is in the corner of > the garage, tilted at an angle, with hanging bicycles on one side and 19" > racks on another, and is happy as a clam. > > Are clams happy? I've always wondered about that saying... > > -Dave > > -- Original message -- > From: "jshank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> There appears to be three software-monitoring programs available, GPSCon >> Pro, GPS Control & SatStat. I was just curious about what the group >> thinks >> of these three programs or if there are any other available. >> >> >> >> The Z3801A manual suggest rg-213 of lmr-400. I have neither on hand but >> am >> not apposed to purchasing either. >> >> I do have rg58/u and coax CATV cable on hand but the problem is that it >> is a >> difficult process to run the cable from my basement lab to the second >> floor >> attic and I only o want to do it once. Originally, I was going to >> penetrate >> the roof at the ridgeline and install the antenna on a one foot but I >> understand it is possible to receive singles from under the >> plywood/asphalt >> shingle roof. Is it worth a penetration of the roof? >> >> >> >> Jeff >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
Hi Jeff- I have only used SatStat with my Z3801A, and it did take a while to get it set up right under XP. I much prefer Tboltmon for the Thunderbolt. Now that both are functional, I can start playing with them. I found that the Z3801A with the std HP antenna and recommended cable didn't work very well with the antenna in the garage (no plywood, 1x6s and 3 layers of asphalt shingles), it took forever to acquire sats and would lose the lock at the drop of a hat. It had to go out in the weather to be stable. On the other hand, the Thunderbolt antenna is in the corner of the garage, tilted at an angle, with hanging bicycles on one side and 19" racks on another, and is happy as a clam. Are clams happy? I've always wondered about that saying... -Dave -- Original message -- From: "jshank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There appears to be three software-monitoring programs available, GPSCon > Pro, GPS Control & SatStat. I was just curious about what the group thinks > of these three programs or if there are any other available. > > > > The Z3801A manual suggest rg-213 of lmr-400. I have neither on hand but am > not apposed to purchasing either. > > I do have rg58/u and coax CATV cable on hand but the problem is that it is a > difficult process to run the cable from my basement lab to the second floor > attic and I only o want to do it once. Originally, I was going to penetrate > the roof at the ridgeline and install the antenna on a one foot but I > understand it is possible to receive singles from under the plywood/asphalt > shingle roof. Is it worth a penetration of the roof? > > > > Jeff > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
> There appears to be three software-monitoring programs available, > GPSCon Pro, GPS Control & SatStat. I was just curious about what the > group thinks of these three programs or if there are any other > available. SatStat is free. It will get you off the ground. > I do have rg58/u and coax CATV cable on hand but the problem is that > it is a difficult process to run the cable from my basement lab to > the second floor attic and I only o want to do it once. Originally, > I was going to penetrate the roof at the ridgeline and install the > antenna on a one foot but I understand it is possible to receive > singles from under the plywood/asphalt shingle roof. Is it worth a > penetration of the roof? I don't think you are going to get a simple answer. That's why I suggested experimenting. RG-58 is fairly high loss. I doubt if it will work at 50 ft. Cable TV coax is readily available in two flavors: RG-59 and RG-6. (Or did 10 years ago when I last looked.) The RG-6 may be advertised as low-loss. It's significantly bigger. If you have enough RG-6, I'd start by feeding it out a window or run it up the stairs and out the door. Put the antenna out in the open. If that works, it will probably work better on top of your roof. If it works well, you can try tucking the antenna up under the eaves. That's a good approximation of inside your attic below the roof. There is a slight quirk. You have to get it working before you know it's working. You probably need to do a Survey. If your antenna is marginal, you can watch it struggle to find satellites until it gets locked up. (The Status page will show you what satellites it is working on.) -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
Hi Jeff, I have used both SatStat and GPSCon on a Z3801A, Fury, and FireFly. Satstat has no graphical interface, and it was so old that it was really tough to get up and running on XP. But I was eventually able to get it up, and I think it's available for free. Very basic text-based interface. I can highly recommend GPSCon, it allows for graphing standard features such as EFC and TI, but also allows you to add your own customized data query commands, and graph them. It can also support more than one GPSDO. Lastly, GPSCon supports a large number of Web features, FTP login, SNTP server, Web Server, Email alarms, etc etc. The only drawbacks for GPSCon are that there are so many features to play with that sometimes it's a bit cluttered to find what you are looking for, and it can get quite slow when logging many GPSDO's over long time-frames. Hope that helps, bye, Said In a message dated 3/27/2008 11:40:48 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There appears to be three software-monitoring programs available, GPSCon Pro, GPS Control & SatStat. I was just curious about what the group thinks of these three programs or if there are any other available. **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom000301) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
There appears to be three software-monitoring programs available, GPSCon Pro, GPS Control & SatStat. I was just curious about what the group thinks of these three programs or if there are any other available. The Z3801A manual suggest rg-213 of lmr-400. I have neither on hand but am not apposed to purchasing either. I do have rg58/u and coax CATV cable on hand but the problem is that it is a difficult process to run the cable from my basement lab to the second floor attic and I only o want to do it once. Originally, I was going to penetrate the roof at the ridgeline and install the antenna on a one foot but I understand it is possible to receive singles from under the plywood/asphalt shingle roof. Is it worth a penetration of the roof? Jeff ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
> I am in the process of setting up a Z3801A and would like to know what > type of cable I should use for a 50' run to an 58532A antenna. What do you have handy? How nutty are you? If you have 50 ft of something, give it a try. I'm assuming you can try it easily, for example by tossing the cable out a window rather than going through all the effort of making a neat installation. One of the GPS manufacturers suggests using RG-6 even though it's 75 ohms rather than 50. The idea is that the low(er) loss at 1.4 GHz more than compensates for the impedance mismatch. RG-6 is cable TV gear. You can get it cheap. My antenna is inside my junk room. I'm using 25 ft of LMR-???. It's right on the edge of being good enough. My Z3801A runs out of satellites occasionally (once or twice per week). > Also I need to purchase one of the monitoring software programs for > this Z3801A, any suggestions. What do you want to monitor? Do you like programming? The specs are readily available. With a bit of hacking you can collect whatever info you want then feed it to your favorite graphing program. I use gnuplot. -- These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
I use 100 feet of LMR-400, which is fantastic, but overkill. It probably loses about 6db for 100-feet at 1.5GHz. There are a lot of online vendors that will sell you any length you want with N-type connectors on both ends. jeff jshank wrote: > Hi, > I am in the process of setting up a Z3801A and would like to know what type > of cable I should use for a 50' run to an 58532A antenna. > > Also I need to purchase one of the monitoring software programs for this > Z3801A, any suggestions. > > jshank > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] 58532a ANTENNA CABLE?
Hi, I am in the process of setting up a Z3801A and would like to know what type of cable I should use for a 50' run to an 58532A antenna. Also I need to purchase one of the monitoring software programs for this Z3801A, any suggestions. jshank ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
