[time-nuts] Austron 1250A FS
List, I am selling my Austron 1250A. The meter readings are all in the OK range and has a 5 MHz output which I've not calibrated. It's in good cosmetic condition. It comes with the factory manual,extender board, relay rack mounting brackets, spare fuses and a AN connector for attaching an external battery pack. The one problem it may have as I was told when I bought it is that the rear EFC might not work. (I never took the time to find out if it is a problem, I just powered it up. Has been in continuous operation for over 6 months.) Asking $250 plus shipping from 92220. If the buyer wishes, I can remove the Ni-Cad battery pack and dispose of it in an approved recycler and save some money on the shipping. If interested, please send me an ORIGINAL email so it won't get mixed in the TN nuts posts. Regards, Perrier ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool
I adjusted my 1250A using a 1/8 brass rod that I got from the hardware store. I filed down the end to make it into a screwdriver. This worked fine. I could tell when the tip was engaged with the screw in the oscillator by feeling it fall into place and then I could make the adjustment. The brass didn't have any effect on the frequency. When I removed the tool the frequency didn't change. A metallic tool is needed since the adjustment screw needs some torque to make it turn. -Original Message- From: Ole Petter Ronningen Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:07 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool Hello My 1250A has drifted outside the range of the front panel control, so the coarse adjust needs some fiddling. The manual makes mention of a special tool to be used for this. I don't have the tool, the closest I can get is a 10 bamboo stick that I cunningly liberated from my wifes sushimaking mat! I wondered if anyone else on the list has this tool, and can send me a description/photo of the tip? I tried widdling the tip of my stick to various shapes, but not knowing what it is supposed to mate with, it is a bit frustrating.. Thank you all ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool
Fantastic, just what I needed. A little gentle persuasion with a knife coaxed one of my crappy screwdrivers blade to become long enough (or rather, the handle short enough..) to fit. 5 minute job once I knew what is on the other end. Thank you! OleP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool
I've had the ovens apart to replace a dead 3N128 in one of my 1250As. What you are adjusting is a trimmer cap in the oscillator circuit, and if too much pressure is applied trying to engage the slot in the trimmer, it is easy to bend the trimmer off at an angle where you will never be able to find the slot again. The Austron supplied tool is a dielectric rod of 18 cm length, 3 mm in diameter, with a 3 mm steel flat blade 2 mm in length protruding from the end of the rod. The blade easily fits into the trimmer's slot, but as was mentioned in the previous post, some of the trimmers are sticky, and require some torque to get them moving. I measured the inner oven's temperature as 63 C which is the temperature that trimmer lives at. -Doug W6DSR -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Reed Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 5:56 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool I adjusted my 1250A using a 1/8 brass rod that I got from the hardware store. I filed down the end to make it into a screwdriver. This worked fine. I could tell when the tip was engaged with the screw in the oscillator by feeling it fall into place and then I could make the adjustment. The brass didn't have any effect on the frequency. When I removed the tool the frequency didn't change. A metallic tool is needed since the adjustment screw needs some torque to make it turn. -Original Message- From: Ole Petter Ronningen Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:07 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool Hello My 1250A has drifted outside the range of the front panel control, so the coarse adjust needs some fiddling. The manual makes mention of a special tool to be used for this. I don't have the tool, the closest I can get is a 10 bamboo stick that I cunningly liberated from my wifes sushimaking mat! I wondered if anyone else on the list has this tool, and can send me a description/photo of the tip? I tried widdling the tip of my stick to various shapes, but not knowing what it is supposed to mate with, it is a bit frustrating.. Thank you all ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A
Thanks all I decided to replace the batteries, expecting delivery any minute now. Surprisingly expensive to replace those NiCd's.. Anyway, after looking at the schematics a bit, I was able to stop the relay chatter by setting the unit to charge, and holding down the reset switch for a couple of minutes. That gave the batteries enough charge to power the base of the transistor that holds the relay. Ole ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 1250A Tuning tool
Hello My 1250A has drifted outside the range of the front panel control, so the coarse adjust needs some fiddling. The manual makes mention of a special tool to be used for this. I don't have the tool, the closest I can get is a 10 bamboo stick that I cunningly liberated from my wifes sushimaking mat! I wondered if anyone else on the list has this tool, and can send me a description/photo of the tip? I tried widdling the tip of my stick to various shapes, but not knowing what it is supposed to mate with, it is a bit frustrating.. Thank you all ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A
Yes. I had the same issue with several of my 1250s. Unless you intend to use it through a power outage, just disconnect the batteries and all should be fine. It will also be a lot lighter if you take them out. Regards - Mike Mike B. Feher, EOZ Inc. 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 office 908-902-3831 cell -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ole Petter Ronningen Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:47 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Hello On a whim I purchased an Austron 1250A off of eBay, tested for power on only. I somehow doubt they told the whole truth there, as the unit makes a *very* noticable buzzing sound when powered on! The sound comes from a relay on the regulator board, oscillating wildly. I have a hunch that this might be because the NiCad batteries are stone dead. Has anyone experienced this relay going nuts?` Also, the manual gives clear warning not to operate the unit with the battery pack removed, but gives no reason.. Does anyone know why this might be a bad thing? Thank you! OleP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A
I own several of these units, and have for sale several more if anyone is interested. I can verify that a New Old Stock unit straight out of the box, needs to have the cover removed, and a piece of Styrofoam spacer removed from the relay you mention. It sounds like you have done that, or the seller did it. Then for many minutes with the 1250A on, and the battery switch in charge, the relay will buzz. This is perfectly normal, and is mentioned in the manual for the 1250A. By-the-way, the original battery in all the units I have powered up, never achieve the capacity to run the standard for more than a few minutes. They can be replaced with new cells, but I have also never seen any of my units with leaking cells. Hope that helps, -Doug Ronald W6DSR -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ole Petter Ronningen Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:47 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Hello On a whim I purchased an Austron 1250A off of eBay, tested for power on only. I somehow doubt they told the whole truth there, as the unit makes a *very* noticable buzzing sound when powered on! The sound comes from a relay on the regulator board, oscillating wildly. I have a hunch that this might be because the NiCad batteries are stone dead. Has anyone experienced this relay going nuts?` Also, the manual gives clear warning not to operate the unit with the battery pack removed, but gives no reason.. Does anyone know why this might be a bad thing? Thank you! OleP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A
Hi Ole Mmmm well I have 2 and a friend has one all had dead batteries, quickly removed, but we didnt have a manual then so we just ran them without them batts. Our power is quite reliable. My pair have been running continuously for around 7 years now with no signs of problem and no relay chatter. The crystals are well aged now :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Ole Petter Ronningen olep...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:46 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A Hello On a whim I purchased an Austron 1250A off of eBay, tested for power on only. I somehow doubt they told the whole truth there, as the unit makes a *very* noticable buzzing sound when powered on! The sound comes from a relay on the regulator board, oscillating wildly. I have a hunch that this might be because the NiCad batteries are stone dead. Has anyone experienced this relay going nuts?` Also, the manual gives clear warning not to operate the unit with the battery pack removed, but gives no reason.. Does anyone know why this might be a bad thing? Thank you! OleP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A
Ole I will guess that without the pack the bus voltage may go high and that they also used the pack as a filter cap. So you should be able to find a free manual on one of the sites. KO4BB is a good guess. It may be as simple to start as a 10,000 uf cap to get going. The oscillating relay may be 60 Hz. Best of luck those are nice units. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Ole Petter Ronningen olep...@gmail.com wrote: Hello On a whim I purchased an Austron 1250A off of eBay, tested for power on only. I somehow doubt they told the whole truth there, as the unit makes a *very* noticable buzzing sound when powered on! The sound comes from a relay on the regulator board, oscillating wildly. I have a hunch that this might be because the NiCad batteries are stone dead. Has anyone experienced this relay going nuts?` Also, the manual gives clear warning not to operate the unit with the battery pack removed, but gives no reason.. Does anyone know why this might be a bad thing? Thank you! OleP ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 1250A
I have a virgin 5 MHz secondary frequency standard to sell. Before I go the eBay route, I thought I would post it here. Contact me off-list if interested. -Doug Ronald ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 1250A
I just put a new (unused - not exactly new), Austron 1250A Crystal Frequency Standard on eBay should anyone be interested. -Doug Ronald ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 1250A
Did the manual and schematics for the Austron 1250A get scanned to an archive as suggested earlier? If so can you please point me to it? Alternatively can someone email me the pdf file(s)? Many thanks John GW3XPK johnrd...@googlemail.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 1250A Manual
Hi gang, I just put a scan of the Austron 1250A manual on the www.to-way.com site. 1.3 MB .pdf 300x300 monochrome. Had ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Austron 1250A manual archive?
I have a manual for the Austron 1250A and have answered a couple of questions as to the schematics. I would like to loan my manual to some one that can scan it and make it available on the NET Anyone want that chore. I would want the manual returned after it was scanned. Bill K7NOM ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A manual archive?
Bill, I would be happy to do it and add it to the to-way.com TF manual archive. Had, K7MLR At 02:25 PM 7/6/2008, you wrote: I have a manual for the Austron 1250A and have answered a couple of questions as to the schematics. I would like to loan my manual to some one that can scan it and make it available on the NET Anyone want that chore. I would want the manual returned after it was scanned. Bill K7NOM ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A manual archive?
In a message dated 06/07/2008 22:26:29 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a manual for the Austron 1250A and have answered a couple of questions as to the schematics. I would like to loan my manual to some one that can scan it and make it available on the NET Anyone want that chore. I would want the manual returned after it was scanned. Hi Bill, and All I have a scanned copy of the 1250A manual and will be uploading it to Didier's site shortly. regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A manual archive?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 06/07/2008 22:26:29 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a manual for the Austron 1250A and have answered a couple of questions as to the schematics. I would like to loan my manual to some one that can scan it and make it available on the NET Anyone want that chore. I would want the manual returned after it was scanned. Hi Bill, and All I have a scanned copy of the 1250A manual and will be uploading it to Didier's site shortly. regards Nigel GM8PZR OK Forget my request as it is already in work. Thanks Nigel I will refer any future requests to Didier's site Bill K7NOM ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250A manual archive?
In a message dated 07/07/2008 00:12:18 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK Forget my request as it is already in work. Thanks Nigel I will refer any future requests to Didier's site Bill K7NOM -- Hi Bill I'm having some fun uploading it right now but have just realised anyway that mine is a 1250 manual, not 1250A. I'm not sure what the differences are but it might still be well worth while you getting yours scanned, I'd certainly be interested in a copy. regards Nigel GM8PZR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.