Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Don Latham
Should get the 5 volts with the usual 3-legged fuse :-) ??
Don

Rex
> FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a
> fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it
> is for consideration...
> http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2
>
> Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.
>
>
> On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
>> writes:
>>
>> This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
>> My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
>> Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
>> -
>> The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
>> eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.
>>
>> Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Nigel
>> GM8PZR
>>
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Bob Q
I also got an FE5680A, what a deal.  Thanks to earlier postings I had the 
correct pin out, info on the 1/16 hex key and the command set.  It needs 5V 
on pin 4 to operate.

After 24 hours mine ran 6 mHz low compared to my GPS-based 10 MHz.
I opened the case by removing the 2 flat head screws near the connector and 
the 2 pan head screws in recesses in the center of the base plate.  I 
noticed what looked like smoke residue from a blown part, as have others, 
but no sign of a bad part.
The LPRO-101 has a flat surface and a thermal pad for heat transfer over the 
whole base.  The FE-5680A injects heat into the base plate in the center and 
sinks it around the edges.  Good magnetic shielding and thermal transfer may 
require using most of the 16 mounting holes.
I found "Termite 2.7" from CompuPhase worked to communicate with the 
FE-5680A in Windows.  I set the COM port, 9600 baud, local echo, append 
nothing and hex view.  I sent 0x2D040029 to get the offset.  The "0x" lets 
the program know the number is in hex.  My offset was 0, same as others have 
mentioned.  Possibly the FE-5680 was controlled externally to sync up the 
1pps output to GPS using the "set temporary offset" command.
I wonder if there's a status command, analogous to the lamp voltage test 
point on the LPRO-101.

Bob


-Original Message- 
From: Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 2:25 PM
To: li...@lazygranch.com ; Discussion of precise time and frequency 
measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for 
these


My 5680A arrived today.  Mailman demanded a signature.

This thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit bigger.

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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Peter Gottlieb
A milled flat surface and/or thermal paste is not required for heat transfer, it 
just makes it better.  There must be some removal of heat; consider that to 
reach thermal equilibrium the heat flow out of the unit must match the power 
absorbed.  It seems that about 12 watts is going in, so eventually 12 watts must 
be flowing out if the temperature is to remain steady.


I would not want mine to run at 60C, I would rather it be at a more reasonable 
35-40C on the baseplate, just for the electronics.


I am going to mount mine to an existing aluminum panel in my target unit using 
the provided mounting holes and be done with it.


Peter


On 12/20/2011 12:18 PM, John Howell wrote:

Agreed 340mA seems too high, mine takes 87mA. There has been much
comment on [time_nuts] about the temperature of these units varying from
'let 'em get hot' to 'must heatsink'.

In my experience items that require a heatsink have a milled flat surface
to mount to a sink, not a thin case that would only touch in places.
Furthermore I didn't think fiberglass circuit board was famous for its heat
conducting properties. No sign of any heat transfer compound either. So
do I conclude they need a bit of cooling?

I agree with you Pete and would really like to know what the  makers say
about all this!

Best wishes,

John.



On 20 Dec 2011, at 16:22, Peter Bell wrote:


340mA seems really high - all the ones I've seen take about 90mA - and
I would strongly recommend putting in on a heatsink, or at least
bolting it directly to the chassis.  In my experience, they don't
actually malfunction when operated without one, but the housing gets
very hot (and, presumably, the insides get hotter still) - after 24h
running sitting on a foam mouse mat open to the air, the case hit
about 59c - I can't help thinking that isn't going to be good for the
long-term health of the unit.

Regards,

Pete


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
  wrote:

Mine requires the 5 volt supply at 340 ma.

Are there nay manufacturer's instructions about mounting, ventilating,
or heat sinking these units?

My current thinking is to mount it on standoffs on the back of the chassis
that houses my Thunderbolt.

Perhaps I should place it where it can warm up Princess.
(Notice the magnet on top of the oscillator.)


On 12/20/2011 07:13 AM, Roy Phillips wrote:



--
From: "Rex"
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 PM
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for
these


FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a
fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it is
for consideration...
http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2

Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.


On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
writes:

This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
-
The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.

Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR


Nigel

   I trust that you are aware that some models of the FE-5680A only require
the 15 volt/1.7Amp. supply.   In fact connecting a 5 volt supply to the
units that are programmable can cause damage !
   Roy


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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread John Howell
Agreed 340mA seems too high, mine takes 87mA. There has been much
comment on [time_nuts] about the temperature of these units varying from
'let 'em get hot' to 'must heatsink'.

In my experience items that require a heatsink have a milled flat surface
to mount to a sink, not a thin case that would only touch in places.
Furthermore I didn't think fiberglass circuit board was famous for its heat
conducting properties. No sign of any heat transfer compound either. So
do I conclude they need a bit of cooling?

I agree with you Pete and would really like to know what the  makers say
about all this!

Best wishes,

John.



On 20 Dec 2011, at 16:22, Peter Bell wrote:

> 340mA seems really high - all the ones I've seen take about 90mA - and
> I would strongly recommend putting in on a heatsink, or at least
> bolting it directly to the chassis.  In my experience, they don't
> actually malfunction when operated without one, but the housing gets
> very hot (and, presumably, the insides get hotter still) - after 24h
> running sitting on a foam mouse mat open to the air, the case hit
> about 59c - I can't help thinking that isn't going to be good for the
> long-term health of the unit.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
>  wrote:
>> Mine requires the 5 volt supply at 340 ma.
>> 
>> Are there nay manufacturer's instructions about mounting, ventilating,
>> or heat sinking these units?
>> 
>> My current thinking is to mount it on standoffs on the back of the chassis
>> that houses my Thunderbolt.
>> 
>> Perhaps I should place it where it can warm up Princess.
>> (Notice the magnet on top of the oscillator.)
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/20/2011 07:13 AM, Roy Phillips wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> From: "Rex" 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 PM
>>> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for
>>> these
>>> 
>>>> FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a
>>>> fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it is
>>>> for consideration...
>>>> http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2
>>>> 
>>>> Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
>>>>> writes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
>>>>> My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
>>>>> Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
>>>>> -
>>>>> The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
>>>>> eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.
>>>>> 
>>>>> regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Nigel
>>>>> GM8PZR
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Nigel
>>> 
>>>   I trust that you are aware that some models of the FE-5680A only require
>>> the 15 volt/1.7Amp. supply.   In fact connecting a 5 volt supply to the
>>> units that are programmable can cause damage !
>>>   Roy
>>> 
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Peter Bell
340mA seems really high - all the ones I've seen take about 90mA - and
I would strongly recommend putting in on a heatsink, or at least
bolting it directly to the chassis.  In my experience, they don't
actually malfunction when operated without one, but the housing gets
very hot (and, presumably, the insides get hotter still) - after 24h
running sitting on a foam mouse mat open to the air, the case hit
about 59c - I can't help thinking that isn't going to be good for the
long-term health of the unit.

Regards,

Pete


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
 wrote:
> Mine requires the 5 volt supply at 340 ma.
>
> Are there nay manufacturer's instructions about mounting, ventilating,
> or heat sinking these units?
>
> My current thinking is to mount it on standoffs on the back of the chassis
> that houses my Thunderbolt.
>
> Perhaps I should place it where it can warm up Princess.
> (Notice the magnet on top of the oscillator.)
>
>
> On 12/20/2011 07:13 AM, Roy Phillips wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Rex" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 PM
>> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for
>> these
>>
>>> FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a
>>> fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it is
>>> for consideration...
>>> http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2
>>>
>>> Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
>>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>> This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
>>>> My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
>>>> Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
>>>> -
>>>> The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
>>>> eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.
>>>>
>>>> Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> Nigel
>>>> GM8PZR
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nigel
>>
>>   I trust that you are aware that some models of the FE-5680A only require
>> the 15 volt/1.7Amp. supply.   In fact connecting a 5 volt supply to the
>> units that are programmable can cause damage !
>>   Roy
>>
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

Mine requires the 5 volt supply at 340 ma.

Are there nay manufacturer's instructions about mounting, ventilating,
or heat sinking these units?

My current thinking is to mount it on standoffs on the back of the chassis
that houses my Thunderbolt.

Perhaps I should place it where it can warm up Princess.
(Notice the magnet on top of the oscillator.)

On 12/20/2011 07:13 AM, Roy Phillips wrote:



--
From: "Rex" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 PM
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up 
for these


FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a 
fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here 
it is for consideration...

http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2

Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.


On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
writes:

This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
-
The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.

Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR



Nigel
   I trust that you are aware that some models of the FE-5680A only 
require the 15 volt/1.7Amp. supply.   In fact connecting a 5 volt 
supply to the units that are programmable can cause damage !

   Roy


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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Ebay 300638681652 is more like it.  Just add a 7805 to get your 5 volts.  For 
that kind of price it's almost cheaper to buy than to pay for gas plus time for 
me to go to my storage unit and grab one (maybe that's a lesson for what I 
should even save!).


In my intended application though, there is already +5 and +15 available.

Peter


On 12/20/2011 10:13 AM, Roy Phillips wrote:



--
From: "Rex" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 PM
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a fixed 
voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it is for 
consideration...

http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2

Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.


On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
writes:

This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
-
The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.

Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR



Nigel
   I trust that you are aware that some models of the FE-5680A only require 
the 15 volt/1.7Amp. supply.   In fact connecting a 5 volt supply to the units 
that are programmable can cause damage !

   Roy


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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Roy Phillips



--
From: "Rex" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:10 PM
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" 

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for 
these


FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a fixed 
voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it is for 
consideration...

http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2

Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.


On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
writes:

This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
-
The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.

Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR



Nigel
   I trust that you are aware that some models of the FE-5680A only require 
the 15 volt/1.7Amp. supply.   In fact connecting a 5 volt supply to the 
units that are programmable can cause damage !

   Roy


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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Rex
FWIW. I just hapened on this power supply in an ad. You might find a 
fixed voltage one somewhere cheaper, but the price seemed ok, so here it 
is for consideration...

http://www.mpja.com/email/12-13-11.asp?r=284759&s=2

Still need the 5 V somehow, so not a complete solution for the 5680A.


On 12/19/2011 3:06 PM, gandal...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com
writes:

This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
-
The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,
eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.

Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.

regards

Nigel
GM8PZR




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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-20 Thread Peter Bell
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
 wrote:

> It took about 32 minutes to make lock.  Before that it was
> cycling between about +75 and -200 Hz.

That seems rather slow - I just checked the 4 units I have here (D/C
0321, 0330, 0342 and 0349) and they all locked in under 3:30 from cold
- the fastest was just under 2:58.

Regards,

Pete

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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-19 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

Got mine going with a 15 volt 3 amp supply from an old Toshiba.
That and 5 volts.

It took about 32 minutes to make lock.  Before that it was
cycling between about +75 and -200 Hz.

The FE-5680A 10 MHz is now off by .002 Hz compared to the Thunderbolt.

I placed a magnet on the case.  It appears I can fine tune the frequency
by adjusting the position and rotation of the magnet.

Film at 11.

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Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-19 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 19/12/2011 22:27:22 GMT Standard Time, c...@omen.com  
writes:

This  thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp  output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit  bigger.
-
The 15 volts to pin 1 starts off needing to supply around 1.7 Amps,  
eventually falling to somewhere between 700 and 800 mA.
 
Pin 4 always draws around 85 to 90 mA from its 5 volt supply.
 
regards
 
Nigel
GM8PZR
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-19 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R

My 5680A arrived today.  Mailman demanded a signature.

This thing requires plenty of current to get started.
My Tek CPS250 1.2 amp output (A+B parallel) only gets 7.5 volts.
Now to scrounge something a bit bigger.

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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-14 Thread lists
Or the shipper didn't pack it well. UPS is very generous on insurance payments 
IF the shipper doesn't have a history of issues. The stores that use the custom 
foam scheme you see often on ebay were stores already nabbed by UPS for too 
many damage claims.  

As far as I know, the Customs House just does paperwork. Breaking stuff is left 
to the package handlers. 

Everything I ever got from China has been USPS. Slow boat from China is more 
than an expression. ;-)

--Original Message--
From: J. Forster
To: li...@lazygranch.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
ReplyTo: j...@quikus.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up  for  
these
Sent: Dec 14, 2011 9:00 AM

Yeah. UPS has a Customs Broker...  staffed by 600 pound gorillas. They
succeeded in breaking my cast iron antenna base about 1/2" thick and
weighing over 40 pounds.

-John

===


> Paying duty on foreign purchases is always a crap shoot. Often you don't
> get charged at all. Other times the item is held and you pony up the duty.
>
> I got an item through Fedex and they came after me two years later for the
> duty. I refused to pay because I couldn't even remember if I paid the duty
> when I got the item.
>
> UPS has their own customs house. Way more professional than Fedex.
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-14 Thread J. Forster
Yeah. UPS has a Customs Broker...  staffed by 600 pound gorillas. They
succeeded in breaking my cast iron antenna base about 1/2" thick and
weighing over 40 pounds.

-John

===


> Paying duty on foreign purchases is always a crap shoot. Often you don't
> get charged at all. Other times the item is held and you pony up the duty.
>
> I got an item through Fedex and they came after me two years later for the
> duty. I refused to pay because I couldn't even remember if I paid the duty
> when I got the item.
>
> UPS has their own customs house. Way more professional than Fedex.
>
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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-14 Thread lists
Paying duty on foreign purchases is always a crap shoot. Often you don't get 
charged at all. Other times the item is held and you pony up the duty. 

I got an item through Fedex and they came after me two years later for the 
duty. I refused to pay because I couldn't even remember if I paid the duty when 
I got the item. 

UPS has their own customs house. Way more professional than Fedex. 

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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-14 Thread David Kirkby
On 14 December 2011 01:13, Frederick Bray  wrote:
> Anyone who is interested in buying these units should take a look at the
> completed listings and be guided accordingly when making an offer.  I
> recently picked up a couple for ~ $35 each, including shipping.  True the
> price may be going up, but it looks like you can still get them for under
> $40 with shipping if you don't mind waiting for the slow boat from China.
>  For experimentation, that is still a good deal.
>
> (I must admit that I didn't "need" them, but want to try pairing them with a
> couple Thunderbolts.)

I bought a couple off of someone who sold them on eBay, though it was
not an ebay purchase. But he used god alful courier that wanting
paying the import duties by bank transfer or cheque before they would
deliver the goods. I thought I would be able to ring up with a Visa
card and pay, but was told they could not take credit or debit cards
over the phone. But I did get a couple for a pretty good deal.

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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-13 Thread Frederick Bray
Anyone who is interested in buying these units should take a look at the 
completed listings and be guided accordingly when making an offer.  I 
recently picked up a couple for ~ $35 each, including shipping.  True 
the price may be going up, but it looks like you can still get them for 
under $40 with shipping if you don't mind waiting for the slow boat from 
China.  For experimentation, that is still a good deal.


(I must admit that I didn't "need" them, but want to try pairing them 
with a couple Thunderbolts.)


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Re: [time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-13 Thread Peter Gottlieb
   Make an offer and see what happens.


   On 12/13/11, paul swed wrote:

   I guess they figured out they had some value.
   Such is life.
   Regards
   Paul
   WB8TSL/1
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[time-nuts] Ebay FE-5680A Rb I see the price has gone up for these

2011-12-13 Thread paul swed
I guess they figured out they had some value.
Such is life.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL/1
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