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Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I don't think she needs any jabs... However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she 'might' need. So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA might be asked if they have had recently? Thanks - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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To the best of my knowledge and my traveling to Canada as well as the UK, she should not require any inoculations. Regards, Dr. Joseph G. Palsa P.E. Director Sales & Marketing Clary Corporation Phone 804-674-0364 Phone 800-442-5279 Fax 804 674-0714 Cell 804-350-2665 jpa...@clary.com djpa...@yahoo.com k3...@aol.com In a message dated 1/19/2009 1:25:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk writes: Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I don't think she needs any jabs... However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she 'might' need. So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA might be asked if they have had recently? Thanks - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Dave, I would think the immigration people in the UK would probably have some idea in that regard. At least it would not hurt to ask them. BillWB6BNQ Dave Ackrill wrote: > Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting > friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. > > The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need > to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I > don't think she needs any jabs... > > However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the > Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to > do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she > 'might' need. > > So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA > might be asked if they have had recently? > > Thanks - Dave > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/destinationUnitedStates.aspx -Dave -- Original message -- From: WB6BNQ > Dave, > > I would think the immigration people in the UK would probably have some idea > in > that regard. At least it would not hurt to ask them. > > BillWB6BNQ > > > Dave Ackrill wrote: > > > Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting > > friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. > > > > The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need > > to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I > > don't think she needs any jabs... > > > > However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the > > Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to > > do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she > > 'might' need. > > > > So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA > > might be asked if they have had recently? > > > > Thanks - Dave > > > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Do not confuse requirements for a visit vs immigration they are not the same. This site may help : http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/types/types_1262.html And if from UK them : http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html Stanley From: "d.sei...@comcast.net" To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 12:43:49 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question... http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/destinationUnitedStates.aspx -Dave -- Original message -- From: WB6BNQ > Dave, > > I would think the immigration people in the UK would probably have some idea > in > that regard. At least it would not hurt to ask them. > > BillWB6BNQ > > > Dave Ackrill wrote: > > > Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting > > friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. > > > > The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need > > to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I > > don't think she needs any jabs... > > > > However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the > > Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to > > do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she > > 'might' need. > > > > So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA > > might be asked if they have had recently? > > > > Thanks - Dave > > > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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I married a limey. Her family and friends use us as a home base as they travel. I've never heard of any special shots required. Standard UK inoculations should be fine. Only special shots I've heard of is when you go to under developed countries. Maybe where she is going has an outbreak of the flu? Biggest problem I hear from my relatives is the depression that sets in when they leave sunny mid 70 degree tempertures every day to a cold rainy Britain. :) -Original Message- From: Dave Ackrill To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:24 am Subject: [time-nuts] Off Topic question... Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I don't think she needs any jabs... However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she 'might' need. So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA might be asked if they have had recently? Thanks - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Coming to the US she will likely need: * Mortgage-meltdown and anti-depression medication * Obama-fever shots * Cold-weather clothing (for the east coast and Canada, we have +22C to +25C and more here in California) * Credit cards and lots of cash since the Sterling has tanked so much lately, and the Dollar is in a head-fake rally That's about it in terms of preparing for the US. In a message dated 1/19/2009 10:25:21 Pacific Standard Time, dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk writes: Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I don't think she needs any jabs... However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she 'might' need. So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA might be asked if they have had recently? Thanks - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Thanks for the replies all. I won't respond to all of them individually, but all the advice and links are grateully received. Thanks - Dave P.S - Yes, the one about coming back to the UK in February from Tampa Bay may well be valid, but the first leg is from mild and wet UK to freezing Ottowa. :-) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Dave, Dave Ackrill skrev: > Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting > friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. > > The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need > to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I > don't think she needs any jabs... > > However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the > Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to > do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she > 'might' need. > > So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA > might be asked if they have had recently? I think she should just relax and enjoy the ride. I have never got any shots or nor have any of my family, friends and colleagues for as long as I can remember. I have honestly more interesting experiences from all my travels to France than to USA/Canada. Good warm winter clothes is as always recommended as she will probably be colder than in the UK. Besides that normal common sense works well to protect onself, as always. Cheers, Magnus ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Steady lad - nowt wrong with good ol' British Weather! We're made of tough stuff over ere thee knows. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of n3...@aol.com Sent: 19 January 2009 19:00 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question... I married a limey. Her family and friends use us as a home base as they travel. I've never heard of any special shots required. Standard UK inoculations should be fine. Only special shots I've heard of is when you go to under developed countries. Maybe where she is going has an outbreak of the flu? Biggest problem I hear from my relatives is the depression that sets in when they leave sunny mid 70 degree tempertures every day to a cold rainy Britain. :) -Original Message- From: Dave Ackrill To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:24 am Subject: [time-nuts] Off Topic question... Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I don't think she needs any jabs... However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she 'might' need. So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA might be asked if they have had recently? Thanks - Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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For Canada? Nothing at all. My wife and I are frequent visitors to the BC area, thanks to the fact our falconry mentor lives on Vancouver Island. In four-plus years of frequent border crossings, including one where we were delivering a Harris hawk, not once were we ever asked about innoculations or informed that anyone from the States needs such. Happy travels. *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 19-Jan-09 at 18:24 Dave Ackrill wrote: >Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting >friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. > >The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need >to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I >don't think she needs any jabs... > >However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the >Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to >do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she >'might' need. > >So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA >might be asked if they have had recently? > >Thanks - Dave > >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to >https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "Quid Malmborg in Plano..." ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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How about: Rabies shots. Body armor. Loads and loads of dosh. Websters dictionary. US to UK translator (those chappies have some strange banter, you know). Phone numbers of top quality lawyers (better put them on a retainer) Smog masks. Gaffa tape to tape your fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong. Remember, if you hear a bang, hit the deck. If you hear a voice say "freeze", don't move or you'll be shot. Milk of magnesia to combat the chili dogs. Don't turn on the tv or you may need mental health care. etc... 2009/1/20 Dave Ackrill : > Sorry for the off topic question, but my partner, Kate, is off visiting > friends in Canada and USA on Friday and is in 'panic' mode. > > The problem is that she has now got it into her head that she might need > to get innoculated for 'something', but she doesn't know what and I > don't think she needs any jabs... > > However, as the US immigration people are on holidays for the > Presidential inauguration, she can't get a reply until it's too late to > do anything about arranging to go to see the Dr. to get any jabs she > 'might' need. > > So, can anyone tell me what jabs, if any, visitors to Canada or the USA > might be asked if they have had recently? > > Thanks - Dave > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD & JAKDTTNW Omnium finis imminet ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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That is so ignorant I hardly know what to say! Why don't you just admit that you hate all Americans, and know virtually nothing about the US? The biggest risk, to foreign visitors to the US, is pedestrian accidents. We kill a lot of tourists, and a lot of inattentive natives that way. UK tourists are at an extra disadvantage because their training from birth tells them to look the wrong way for US traffic. They look to the right for curb lane traffic, and get hit from the left. -Chuck Harris Steve Rooke wrote: > How about: > > Rabies shots. > Body armor. > Loads and loads of dosh. > Websters dictionary. > US to UK translator (those chappies have some strange banter, you know). > Phone numbers of top quality lawyers (better put them on a retainer) > Smog masks. > Gaffa tape to tape your fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong. > Remember, if you hear a bang, hit the deck. > If you hear a voice say "freeze", don't move or you'll be shot. > Milk of magnesia to combat the chili dogs. > Don't turn on the tv or you may need mental health care. > etc... > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Wow! Just because I forgot the :-) Maybe I should have added, leave you sense of humor at home! 2009/1/20 Chuck Harris : > That is so ignorant I hardly know what to say! > > Why don't you just admit that you hate all Americans, and know > virtually nothing about the US? > > The biggest risk, to foreign visitors to the US, is pedestrian > accidents. We kill a lot of tourists, and a lot of inattentive > natives that way. UK tourists are at an extra disadvantage because > their training from birth tells them to look the wrong way for > US traffic. They look to the right for curb lane traffic, and > get hit from the left. > > -Chuck Harris > > Steve Rooke wrote: >> How about: >> >> Rabies shots. >> Body armor. >> Loads and loads of dosh. >> Websters dictionary. >> US to UK translator (those chappies have some strange banter, you know). >> Phone numbers of top quality lawyers (better put them on a retainer) >> Smog masks. >> Gaffa tape to tape your fingers crossed that nothing goes wrong. >> Remember, if you hear a bang, hit the deck. >> If you hear a voice say "freeze", don't move or you'll be shot. >> Milk of magnesia to combat the chili dogs. >> Don't turn on the tv or you may need mental health care. >> etc... >> > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD & JAKDTTNW Omnium finis imminet ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Steve, This sort of ignorant commentary comes up in discussion with otherwise reasonable folks so often that it really isn't funny anymore. -Chuck Harris Steve Rooke wrote: > Wow! Just because I forgot the :-) > > Maybe I should have added, leave you sense of humor at home! > > 2009/1/20 Chuck Harris : >> That is so ignorant I hardly know what to say! >> >> Why don't you just admit that you hate all Americans, and know >> virtually nothing about the US? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Chuck, Well, I've heard the same sort of stereotypical comments about the Brits so many times I am fed up with them too. Besides which of those comments can you say does not have an air of truth about them for someone coming from England, or may other places in the World for that matter. You've turned a simple friendly poke at the US system into an all out attack on every US citizen. I read an article the other day about the British "hacker" who "broke into" the military systems over there looking for UFO data. The comments were that he should be given 70 years inside, executed, and a whole lot of stuff about how this guy was such a terrible criminal. No one talked about how the US military had connected a system with secret classified data onto the Net with no admin password. But apparently all the blame was on him. If you leave your car with the door open and the keys in the ignition wouldn't you expect to have it pinched. And whats this stuff about the land of the free, you guys have more legislation on yourselves and on other countries people than many other countries. I sat and watched all the discussion about shooting guns at New Year and the chances of people getting killed. They get killed anyway because it is so easy to get guns over there. Everybody gets the chance to be a crim. Our police don't carry guns routinely and we don't have a gun problem. Sure some idiots get hold of them, and some innocent people get hurt or killed, but it's a major event in this country when that happens, not just the way of life it is for you guys. So please don't come back at me all innocent like and hurt. Regards, Steve 2009/1/20 Chuck Harris : > Steve, > > This sort of ignorant commentary comes up in discussion with > otherwise reasonable folks so often that it really isn't funny > anymore. > > -Chuck Harris > > Steve Rooke wrote: >> Wow! Just because I forgot the :-) >> >> Maybe I should have added, leave you sense of humor at home! >> >> 2009/1/20 Chuck Harris : >>> That is so ignorant I hardly know what to say! >>> >>> Why don't you just admit that you hate all Americans, and know >>> virtually nothing about the US? > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD & JAKDTTNW Omnium finis imminet ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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In all of this Anglo American battering there is one thing we can agree on. Jason Bourne can kick James Bond's butt (or arse). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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At 02:17 AM 1/20/2009, you wrote: >Chuck, > >Well, I've heard the same sort of stereotypical comments about the >Brits so many times I am fed up with them too. Besides which of those >comments can you say does not have an air of truth about them for >someone coming from England, or may other places in the World for that >matter. > >You've turned a simple friendly poke at the US system into an all out >attack on every US citizen. I read an article the other day about the >British "hacker" who "broke into" the military systems over there >looking for UFO data. The comments were that he should be given 70 >years inside, executed, and a whole lot of stuff about how this guy >was such a terrible criminal. No one talked about how the US military >had connected a system with secret classified data onto the Net with >no admin password. But apparently all the blame was on him. If you >leave your car with the door open and the keys in the ignition >wouldn't you expect to have it pinched. > >And whats this stuff about the land of the free, you guys have more >legislation on yourselves and on other countries people than many >other countries. I sat and watched all the discussion about shooting >guns at New Year and the chances of people getting killed. They get >killed anyway because it is so easy to get guns over there. Everybody >gets the chance to be a crim. Our police don't carry guns routinely >and we don't have a gun problem. Sure some idiots get hold of them, >and some innocent people get hurt or killed, but it's a major event in >this country when that happens, not just the way of life it is for you >guys. > >So please don't come back at me all innocent like and hurt. > >Regards, >Steve Steve, What you need to remember is that some Americans have a superiority complex - there is nothing of worth or value from anywhere else. We shouldn't take this to heart, this is the way they are educated. From a very early age Americans are taught that the US is the greatest country in the world. The American military is invincible, the American education system excels and everybody in the world wants to live in the US so we need to keep them out. Parts of this are true, the US is a great country. But no more so than Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany or just about any other country. Americans are proud of their country, but often unjustifiably so because their media and education system is severely xenophobic. The American military isn't bad, but invincible? Hardly. The US does have some good universities, but it doesn't mean any means have a caveat on good education. Illiteracy rates in the US are high for a first world nation. But to understand the attitude you need to know a lot about the US. Since 1973 I have lived in the US on several occasions. I have worked for US corporations and the US government. I have also had to live in a country where the rest of the world barely exists for the media. Where major government figures at the Federal and State level are almost totally ignorant of even their closest neighbour. So these days I live in a community of malcontents! Many of my friends here in Canada are Americans who have chosen not to live in the US for a variety of reasons. As an immigrant to this country I have spoken to many people to try and figure out how Canadians define themselves. The one core theme I detect is "we are not Americans". Having lived in the US I am happy not to live there now. But don't be discouraged, the sort of reaction you have seen here is fairly typical. On the whole Americans are very sensitive about any perceived criticism of their country and just don't seem to have a handle on anyone else's sense of humour. John (An Australian who has lived in too many places to recall). ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Folks, this started out as an off-topic question about getting inoculations, and has turned into something even more off-topic and less informative. Time-nuts now has over 750 subscribers who joined the list because they are interested in a high signal-to-noise ratio discussion of precise time and frequency measurement. Let's respect their time and bandwidth by limiting discussions to things within the list's charter. Specifically, let's close off this discussion of who's stereotyping whom before it degenerates further. Thanks, John YrSysAdmin John Day wrote: > At 02:17 AM 1/20/2009, you wrote: >> Chuck, >> >> Well, I've heard the same sort of stereotypical comments about the >> Brits so many times I am fed up with them too. Besides which of those >> comments can you say does not have an air of truth about them for >> someone coming from England, or may other places in the World for that >> matter. >> >> You've turned a simple friendly poke at the US system into an all out >> attack on every US citizen. I read an article the other day about the >> British "hacker" who "broke into" the military systems over there >> looking for UFO data. The comments were that he should be given 70 >> years inside, executed, and a whole lot of stuff about how this guy >> was such a terrible criminal. No one talked about how the US military >> had connected a system with secret classified data onto the Net with >> no admin password. But apparently all the blame was on him. If you >> leave your car with the door open and the keys in the ignition >> wouldn't you expect to have it pinched. >> >> And whats this stuff about the land of the free, you guys have more >> legislation on yourselves and on other countries people than many >> other countries. I sat and watched all the discussion about shooting >> guns at New Year and the chances of people getting killed. They get >> killed anyway because it is so easy to get guns over there. Everybody >> gets the chance to be a crim. Our police don't carry guns routinely >> and we don't have a gun problem. Sure some idiots get hold of them, >> and some innocent people get hurt or killed, but it's a major event in >> this country when that happens, not just the way of life it is for you >> guys. >> >> So please don't come back at me all innocent like and hurt. >> >> Regards, >> Steve > > Steve, > > What you need to remember is that some Americans have a superiority > complex - there is nothing of worth or value from anywhere else. We > shouldn't take this to heart, this is the way they are educated. From > a very early age Americans are taught that the US is the greatest > country in the world. The American military is invincible, the > American education system excels and everybody in the world wants to > live in the US so we need to keep them out. > > Parts of this are true, the US is a great country. But no more so > than Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany or just about any other > country. Americans are proud of their country, but often > unjustifiably so because their media and education system is severely > xenophobic. > > The American military isn't bad, but invincible? Hardly. > > The US does have some good universities, but it doesn't mean any > means have a caveat on good education. Illiteracy rates in the US are > high for a first world nation. > > But to understand the attitude you need to know a lot about the US. > Since 1973 I have lived in the US on several occasions. I have worked > for US corporations and the US government. I have also had to live in > a country where the rest of the world barely exists for the media. > Where major government figures at the Federal and State level are > almost totally ignorant of even their closest neighbour. > > So these days I live in a community of malcontents! Many of my > friends here in Canada are Americans who have chosen not to live in > the US for a variety of reasons. As an immigrant to this country I > have spoken to many people to try and figure out how Canadians define > themselves. The one core theme I detect is "we are not Americans". > Having lived in the US I am happy not to live there now. But don't be > discouraged, the sort of reaction you have seen here is fairly > typical. On the whole Americans are very sensitive about any > perceived criticism of their country and just don't seem to have a > handle on anyone else's sense of humour. > > John > (An Australian who has lived in too many places to recall). > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question...
Thank You! John Had K7MLR At 08:31 AM 1/20/2009, you wrote: >Folks, this started out as an off-topic question about getting >inoculations, and has turned into something even more off-topic and less >informative. > >Time-nuts now has over 750 subscribers who joined the list because they >are interested in a high signal-to-noise ratio discussion of precise >time and frequency measurement. Let's respect their time and bandwidth >by limiting discussions to things within the list's charter. > >Specifically, let's close off this discussion of who's stereotyping whom >before it degenerates further. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question...
In message: <8cb492c1a47292d-1178-...@mblk-m35.sysops.aol.com> n3...@aol.com writes: : In all of this Anglo American battering there is one thing we can agree on. : : Jason Bourne can kick James Bond's butt (or arse). Jason Bourne can kick James Bond's butt but James Bond can kick Jason Bourne's arse. might be a better way to say it :) Warner ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question...
John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > Folks, this started out as an off-topic question about getting > inoculations, and has turned into something even more off-topic and less > informative. > My appologies for starting this. For the record, I asked similar questions on a couple of other forums where I knew people from Canada and the USA would be lurking or posting, as I needed a fairly rapid informed response to allay my partners fears, and this one has taken off like no other! My sole intention was to reassure my partner that she could leave for Canada and the USA on Friday without needing to visit the doctor for 101 innoculations, which many of the initial replies did, despite what one of her less informed internet friends had suggested she would need... I did take on-board the 'Google is your friend' comments, as that's normally my first port of call, but Kate is reasonably internet savvy and knows the problems of making unrestricted Google searches on the standard of the information received. However the pointers to the Canadian and USA official websites were very useful sources of reliable information, and were gratefully received. Thank you. So, in future, I will know better where to ask, and where to keep stum. Dave (G0DJA) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic question... & Apology
Dear Time-Nutters I wish to humbly apologize to the over 749 subscribers to this list for my stupid rantings. I had a very bad day and this had pushed me into a manic state, which is a problem for someone with bipolar. Rest-assured, it will be a couple of weeks or so before I can dig myself out of the down state I have now fallen into, so your unlikely to hear from me. OK, stop the cheering now :) I have nothing against the American people at all, I have family and friends there, even though I could have stuck my boot firmly up the backside of one famous US personage Yesterday, but that was only part of my stress. 73, Steve 2009/1/21 John Ackermann N8UR : > Folks, this started out as an off-topic question about getting > inoculations, and has turned into something even more off-topic and less > informative. > > Time-nuts now has over 750 subscribers who joined the list because they > are interested in a high signal-to-noise ratio discussion of precise > time and frequency measurement. Let's respect their time and bandwidth > by limiting discussions to things within the list's charter. > > Specifically, let's close off this discussion of who's stereotyping whom > before it degenerates further. > > Thanks, > > John > YrSysAdmin > > > John Day wrote: >> At 02:17 AM 1/20/2009, you wrote: >>> Chuck, >>> >>> Well, I've heard the same sort of stereotypical comments about the >>> Brits so many times I am fed up with them too. Besides which of those >>> comments can you say does not have an air of truth about them for >>> someone coming from England, or may other places in the World for that >>> matter. >>> >>> You've turned a simple friendly poke at the US system into an all out >>> attack on every US citizen. I read an article the other day about the >>> British "hacker" who "broke into" the military systems over there >>> looking for UFO data. The comments were that he should be given 70 >>> years inside, executed, and a whole lot of stuff about how this guy >>> was such a terrible criminal. No one talked about how the US military >>> had connected a system with secret classified data onto the Net with >>> no admin password. But apparently all the blame was on him. If you >>> leave your car with the door open and the keys in the ignition >>> wouldn't you expect to have it pinched. >>> >>> And whats this stuff about the land of the free, you guys have more >>> legislation on yourselves and on other countries people than many >>> other countries. I sat and watched all the discussion about shooting >>> guns at New Year and the chances of people getting killed. They get >>> killed anyway because it is so easy to get guns over there. Everybody >>> gets the chance to be a crim. Our police don't carry guns routinely >>> and we don't have a gun problem. Sure some idiots get hold of them, >>> and some innocent people get hurt or killed, but it's a major event in >>> this country when that happens, not just the way of life it is for you >>> guys. >>> >>> So please don't come back at me all innocent like and hurt. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Steve >> >> Steve, >> >> What you need to remember is that some Americans have a superiority >> complex - there is nothing of worth or value from anywhere else. We >> shouldn't take this to heart, this is the way they are educated. From >> a very early age Americans are taught that the US is the greatest >> country in the world. The American military is invincible, the >> American education system excels and everybody in the world wants to >> live in the US so we need to keep them out. >> >> Parts of this are true, the US is a great country. But no more so >> than Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany or just about any other >> country. Americans are proud of their country, but often >> unjustifiably so because their media and education system is severely >> xenophobic. >> >> The American military isn't bad, but invincible? Hardly. >> >> The US does have some good universities, but it doesn't mean any >> means have a caveat on good education. Illiteracy rates in the US are >> high for a first world nation. >> >> But to understand the attitude you need to know a lot about the US. >> Since 1973 I have lived in the US on several occasions. I have worked >> for US corporations and the US government. I have also had to live in >> a country where the rest of the world barely exists for the media. >> Where major government figures at the Federal and State level are >> almost totally ignorant of even their closest neighbour. >> >> So these days I live in a community of malcontents! Many of my >> friends here in Canada are Americans who have chosen not to live in >> the US for a variety of reasons. As an immigrant to this country I >> have spoken to many people to try and figure out how Canadians define >> themselves. The one core theme I detect is "we are not Americans". >> Having lived in the US I am happy not to live there now. But don't be >> discouraged, the sort of reaction you have seen
[time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
Hello All; I apologize for this slightly off topic question, but can anyone recommend any interesting surplus places (where one might find say a 5062...) in the following places: Hunstville (or Birmingham), AL Seattle, WA (other than the Boeing surplus store...I already visit there each trip out that way, and I heartily recommend it) Boston, MA or vicinity (nearby NH?) Atlanta, GA Victoria, BC, Canada (or nearby) Thank you all for any leads you can provide. Sincerely; Tom Frank, KA2CDK ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
[time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I quickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not the same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure about 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be marked 2700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? Bruce, KG6OJI ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
My sincere thanks to those who responded to my request for help. The link to a chart provided by Ernie allowed me to recognize I was looking at five-stripe resistors with three significant figure stripes followed by a multiplier stripe and spaced a little further away a red stripe indicating two-percent tolerance. Otherwise, they looked like conventional 1/4-watt composition resistors. I have never encountered five stripe resistors before! Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
> Seattle, WA (other than the Boeing surplus store...I already visit > there each trip out that way, and I heartily recommend it) Next time you're near Seattle, let me know. I'm sure I have more surplus here than Boeing ;-) /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
Now that RADAR Inc. is out of business, the only surplus place I am aware of in the Seattle area is Vetco (http://www.vetcosurplus.com/) Not much HP stuff other than a couple of optimistically-priced power supplies, but still well worth a visit. They do have a couple of drawers full of Tek knobs, if you need any for your 453-485-era scope. I have heard there's a great place in Tacoma, but I can't remember the name of it. (If Dennis Tillman ever successfully subscribed to the list, I believe he's the one who told me about it) -- john, KE5FX > > Hello All; > > I apologize for this slightly off topic question, but can anyone > recommend any interesting surplus places (where one might find say a > 5062...) in the following places: > > Hunstville (or Birmingham), AL > > Seattle, WA (other than the Boeing surplus store...I already visit > there each trip out that way, and I heartily recommend it) > > ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
> I have heard there's a great place in Tacoma, but I can't remember the name > of it. (If Dennis Tillman ever successfully subscribed to the list, I > believe he's the one who told me about it) Electronic Dimensions http://www.el-dim.com/ /tvb ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
Hi, Tom, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 07-Apr-07 at 00:38 Thomas A. Frank wrote: >Hello All; > >I apologize for this slightly off topic question, but can anyone >recommend any interesting surplus places (where one might find say a >5062...) in the following places: >Seattle, WA (other than the Boeing surplus store...I already visit >there each trip out that way, and I heartily recommend it) Electronic Dimensions, Tacoma. Nice people, good service, but be warned: They have a bad habit of overpricing, and they're not terribly good about haggling. See my web entry on them... http://www.bluefeathertech.com/technoid/edim.html >Victoria, BC, Canada (or nearby) Victoria, nothing. It's a snooty tourist trap. Vancouver, BC... Best to check the Yellow Pages for the area when you get there. There used to be at least two decent places on the outskirts, but it's been at least twenty years since I last checked. In fact, if you do find a decent spot (or more than one) in Vancouver or vicinity, I would appreciate hearing about it so I can do a review and listing. Happy hunting. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
Good eve, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 06-Apr-07 at 21:44 John Miles wrote: >Now that RADAR Inc. is out of business, the only surplus place I am aware Actually, Radar, Inc. is still very much alive and well. It's just that they relocated to Kirkland, are only open during the week, and their "surplus" area has shrunken dramatically. In fact, the percentage vs. their new stuff is so low that they don't qualify for a listing on my surplus places site. >of in the Seattle area is Vetco (http://www.vetcosurplus.com/) Not much HP Vetco? E They lost their listing recently, due to the fact that they've dropped below the 50% surplus threshold I look for. They're still a good stop if you need based LEDs, or a few other types of small parts, but they're a bad joke where test gear is concerned. I also don't recall seeing any Tek knobs at all (I visited just about three weeks ago), and I also remember that their prices on the few Tek probes they had were way out of line. Unless you need something they specifically have, I wouldn't waste your time. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
> Actually, Radar, Inc. is still very much alive and well. > It's just that they relocated to Kirkland, are only open during > the week Really? Where in Kirkland? Their web site says they're still in Bothell. That'd be nice, if they're down here now. > Vetco? E They lost their listing recently, due to > the fact that they've dropped below the 50% surplus threshold I > look for. They're still a good stop if you need based LEDs, or a > few other types of small parts, but they're a bad joke where test > gear is concerned. Agreed, not a good place for that stuff. > I also don't recall seeing any Tek knobs at all (I visited > just about three weeks ago), and I also remember that their > prices on the few Tek probes they had were way out of line. Unless someone bought all the knobs, they're hidden in a plastic drawer. You probably won't see them unless you ask. > Unless you need something they specifically have, I > wouldn't waste your time. Cables, connectors, and power-supply modules are their strong points, although they have quite a bit of other stuff too. -- john, KE5FX ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
Hi, John, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 06-Apr-07 at 22:17 John Miles wrote: >> Actually, Radar, Inc. is still very much alive and well. >> It's just that they relocated to Kirkland, are only open during >> the week > >Really? Where in Kirkland? Their web site says they're still in Bothell. >That'd be nice, if they're down here now. Sorry... I meant Bothell, but typed Kirkland. Silly me... >Unless someone bought all the knobs, they're hidden in a plastic drawer. >You probably won't see them unless you ask. Next time I stop by, I'll ask. >Cables, connectors, and power-supply modules are their strong points, >although they have quite a bit of other stuff too. Kinda depends. RE-PC or even Graybar has much better pricing on CAT-5 and up networking patch cables. Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic Question on Surplus Places
> >Really? Where in Kirkland? Their web site says they're still > in Bothell. > >That'd be nice, if they're down here now. > > Sorry... I meant Bothell, but typed Kirkland. Silly me... Right; my understanding is that the Bothell location is no longer open, or at least, no longer open to the public. > Kinda depends. RE-PC or even Graybar has much better > pricing on CAT-5 and up networking patch cables. True, but when I went to Vetco and joked with the guy about how unlikely it was that he'd have what I was looking for (an SMB-to-SMA adapter), he had 'em. None of those at Re-PC or Graybar, you can bet on that. -- john, KE5FX ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
Hi Bruce, try to use this one Resistor Color Code Identification Rgds Ernie. -Original Message- From: Brucekareen To: time-nuts Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:17 pm Subject: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I uickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not he same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure bout 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be marked 700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? ruce, KG6OJI __ ime-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com o unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts nd follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
If it had 4 color bands 2701 you are likely reading it backward. 1072 would be 10.7K Bob L. > > From: "brucekar...@aol.com" >To: time-nuts@febo.com >Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:11 PM >Subject: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors > > >While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I >quickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not >the same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure >about 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be marked > >2700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? > >Bruce, KG6OJI >___ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. > > > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
Hi Bruce, no. Same color code here. However, certain carbon composition resistors from the 60's/70's are notoriously unreliable. The common effect is drift to significantly higher values. Besides that, they can get pretty noisy. Adrian brucekar...@aol.com schrieb: While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I quickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not the same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure about 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be marked 2700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? Bruce, KG6OJI ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
May be a bit of drift and reading back to front. Some years ago we bought a quantity of moulded carbon compostion resistors from a top US manufacturer. A sample check showed that none of them met the 10% tolerance. The maufacturer said "bake them for a day two"! The resistors then passed. Why not replace them with modert types you ask? Type approved equipment with the original designers long gone and the current type certificate holder unwilling or unable to approve the change. Welcome to the world of aviation where we are still supporting equipment designed 50 or more years ago. Robert G8RPI. From: Adrian To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013, 20:53 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors Hi Bruce, no. Same color code here. However, certain carbon composition resistors from the 60's/70's are notoriously unreliable. The common effect is drift to significantly higher values. Besides that, they can get pretty noisy. Adrian brucekar...@aol.com schrieb: > While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I > quickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not > the same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure > about 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be marked > 2700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? > > Bruce, KG6OJI > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
Basic resistor has three color codes - two significant digits and a multiplier - and then likely silver or (more commonly today) gold band. Silver is 10%, gold is 5%. A high -spec resistor can have extra color bands to denote things like tempco, reliability, etc. and may have a non-silver and non-gold band for a different tolerance range. You might've been reading the resistor "backwards" without the gold band to help guide your eye, or confusing significant digit bands with multiplier bands. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM, wrote: > While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I > quickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not > the same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure > about 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be > marked > 2700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? > > Bruce, KG6OJI > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
Hi Bruce, sorry but the server removed the embedded pics. here is a link http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Electronics/Color/ Rgds Ernie. -Original Message- From: Brucekareen To: time-nuts Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:17 pm Subject: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, I uickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is not he same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure bout 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be marked 700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? ruce, KG6OJI __ ime-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com o unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts nd follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors
Must have been Allen Bradley :) Same problem here with military equipment! On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Robert Atkinson wrote: > May be a bit of drift and reading back to front. Some years ago we bought > a quantity of moulded carbon compostion resistors from a top US > manufacturer. A sample check showed that none of them met the 10% > tolerance. The maufacturer said "bake them for a day two"! The resistors > then passed. Why not replace them with modert types you ask? Type approved > equipment with the original designers long gone and the current type > certificate holder unwilling or unable to approve the change. Welcome to > the world of aviation where we are still supporting equipment designed 50 > or more years ago. > > Robert G8RPI. > > > > > > From: Adrian > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013, 20:53 > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off-Topic Question -- German Composition Resistors > > > Hi Bruce, > no. Same color code here. > However, certain carbon composition resistors from the 60's/70's are > notoriously unreliable. The common effect is drift to significantly > higher values. Besides that, they can get pretty noisy. > Adrian > > brucekar...@aol.com schrieb: > > While tracing out a PC board from an instrument manufactured in Germany, > I > > quickly discovered the color code on 1/4-watt composition resistors is > not > > the same as that commonly used in the US For example, I would measure > > about 10,000-ohms across a presumably good resistor that appeared to be > marked > > 2700-ohms. Has/does Germany used a different code for such parts? > > > > Bruce, KG6OJI > > ___ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
