Re: [time-nuts] Signal Hound

2013-04-15 Thread Don Latham
Hi Jim: I have one of the earlier versions of this instrument, along
with its companion signal generator. Although the software has some
annoying glitches at present, I've found it useful around the shop.
There;s a user group on Yahoo, and I think the factory is getting
ready to open the software for user debug. There is an SDK set, too, so
roll your own software is possible. The analyzer can also be used as a
general purpose receiver. Interesting instrument. I've not regretted my
purchase.
Don

Jim Lux
 Inexpensive USB spectrum analyzer.. http://www.signalhound.com/

 I think it has the ability to capture raw samples, too. (the BB60
 definitely does.)  They have a 10MHz ref input.

 The spectrum analyzer has a phase noise feature
 Phase Noise Plot
 : Displays the phase noise amplitude, in dBc/Hz, vs. offset from carrier
 when checked. You must have a span of 10 KHz or less, and the signal
 should be within 1 division of the reference level (e.g. within 10 dB).
 This utility takes about 1 minute to run. It will sweep several times,
 then combine the sweeps into a phase noise plot. The data is approximate
 and is limited by the phase noise of the SignalHound itself. For best
 closein phase noise, use an external 10 MHz reference with  10 dBm
 power level. To resume normal operation,click Phase Noise Plot a
 second time to uncheck.


 Anyone fooled with one?  Think it might work as a low cost part of a
 phase noise test set.
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Re: [time-nuts] Signal Hound

2013-04-15 Thread Orin Eman
There is a yahoo group for the Signal Hound.  For one user, the original
Signal Hound showed really poor phase noise performance with an external
reference with the internal reference always being better... see the
External ref vs internal ref.pdf document on the yahoo group for
details.  The plot presented in that document looks really bad.

Orin.


On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Inexpensive USB spectrum analyzer.. http://www.signalhound.com/

 I think it has the ability to capture raw samples, too. (the BB60
 definitely does.)  They have a 10MHz ref input.

 The spectrum analyzer has a phase noise feature
 Phase Noise Plot
 : Displays the phase noise amplitude, in dBc/Hz, vs. offset from carrier
 when checked. You must have a span of 10 KHz or less, and the signal should
 be within 1 division of the reference level (e.g. within 10 dB). This
 utility takes about 1 minute to run. It will sweep several times, then
 combine the sweeps into a phase noise plot. The data is approximate and is
 limited by the phase noise of the SignalHound itself. For best close in
 phase noise, use an external 10 MHz reference with  10 dBm power level. To
 resume normal operation,click Phase Noise Plot a second time to un check.


 Anyone fooled with one?  Think it might work as a low cost part of a phase
 noise test set.
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Re: [time-nuts] Signal Hound

2013-04-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby

On 04/15/13 04:39 AM, Jim Lux wrote:

Inexpensive USB spectrum analyzer.. http://www.signalhound.com/


It's not that inexpensive. I assembled a 22 GHz spectrum analyzer based on the 
HP 7 modular measurement system for about the same money. The 22 Ghz 
tracking generator module is very expensive, but I don't have that. Since I have 
a 20 GHz VNA, owning a tracking generator on a spectrum analyzer is not that 
important. The 2.9 GHz tracking generator for the HP 7 series is not that 
expensive.



The used HP or similar kit has done most of its depreciating.

Of course, I can see advantages in small, compact units with a warranty, but I'd 
certainly want to consider buying used professional equipment.



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Re: [time-nuts] Signal Hound

2013-04-15 Thread Jim Lux

On 4/15/13 1:48 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

On 04/15/13 04:39 AM, Jim Lux wrote:

Inexpensive USB spectrum analyzer.. http://www.signalhound.com/


It's not that inexpensive. I assembled a 22 GHz spectrum analyzer based
on the HP 7 modular measurement system for about the same money.


New vs used.



 The

22 Ghz tracking generator module is very expensive, but I don't have
that. Since I have a 20 GHz VNA, owning a tracking generator on a
spectrum analyzer is not that important. The 2.9 GHz tracking generator
for the HP 7 series is not that expensive.


The used HP or similar kit has done most of its depreciating.

Of course, I can see advantages in small, compact units with a warranty,
but I'd certainly want to consider buying used professional equipment.



I was thinking about it for use at work, where calibration and repair is 
an issue.  We've got plenty of old HP gear at JPL, and while it works 
great, it's also often got clunky interfaces for computer control, it's 
difficult to get repaired, etc.   (HP 8663Bs for instance..) and 
sometimes, it's just plain obsolete.


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[time-nuts] Signal Hound

2013-04-14 Thread Jim Lux

Inexpensive USB spectrum analyzer.. http://www.signalhound.com/

I think it has the ability to capture raw samples, too. (the BB60 
definitely does.)  They have a 10MHz ref input.


The spectrum analyzer has a phase noise feature
Phase Noise Plot
: Displays the phase noise amplitude, in dBc/Hz, vs. offset from carrier 
when checked. You must have a span of 10 KHz or less, and the signal 
should be within 1 division of the reference level (e.g. within 10 dB). 
This utility takes about 1 minute to run. It will sweep several times, 
then combine the sweeps into a phase noise plot. The data is approximate 
and is limited by the phase noise of the SignalHound itself. For best 
closein phase noise, use an external 10 MHz reference with  10 dBm 
power level. To resume normal operation,click Phase Noise Plot a 
second time to uncheck.



Anyone fooled with one?  Think it might work as a low cost part of a 
phase noise test set.

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