Re: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

[Dr. David Kirkby]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Bill Janssen wrote:

 I picked up a HP 10811A today and need the connection information.

 I tried the WEB and went to the Bama site but at Bama they removed all
 HP info.

 Thanks
 Bill K7NOM

I don't have time now, but are 99.9% sure I downloaded a manual (I'm not
sure what corrections there are) recently. I'll dig it out later, but its
on another computer and I need to leave to get a train in 30 mins or so.



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RE: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

[Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)]

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 I imagine that that is because HP just went on the warpath, and declared
 all copies of their manuals verboten.  I just got several notices from
 ebay telling me about how some HP manuals on CDs that I bought 
 were infringements
 on HP's intellectual property.  This was old stuff too, from the 
 early '70s
 
 -Chuck


The Agilent Library in Palo Alto is working on a project to make HP/Agilent
manuals available in .pdf form.  I donated 100's of my manuals to 
their collection.  They are scanning them in.  I don't know
the exact method by which an outside person accesses this 
collection, but I was told it was in response to many customer
phone calls about manuals.

Rick Karlquist N6RK
(employed by Agilent Technologies)

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RE: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

[John Miles]

Well, that's certainly interesting.  Maybe the Agilent counsel should
include this tidbit in their threatening letters, to avoid the loss of
goodwill that's happening as a result of the BAMA takedown notice.

If they are trying to ensure that all of the manuals out there are
standardized and officially sanctioned copies, available to anyone on a
reasonable basis, then I'm all for that.

I just wrote to Manuals Plus to see if they've heard anything from Agilent.
They have some substantial business interests at stake, more so than the
usual eBay CD hawkers.  If you order a set of HP 8566B manuals from them,
which come in four three-ring binders full of foldout sheets that amount to
the size of metro-area telephone books, they will actually print them on
demand at near-OEM quality.  I can't imagine what it must cost to buy and
operate the scanning/printing equipment needed to do that.

I don't have a large library here, but I do have a few dozen HP manuals that
the Agilent folks are welcome to if they'll make them available for free or
at nominal cost to hobbyists.  Is there a list anywhere of manuals that they
are looking for?

-- john KE5FX

 The Agilent Library in Palo Alto is working on a project to make
 HP/Agilent
 manuals available in .pdf form.  I donated 100's of my manuals to
 their collection.  They are scanning them in.  I don't know
 the exact method by which an outside person accesses this
 collection, but I was told it was in response to many customer
 phone calls about manuals.

 Rick Karlquist N6RK
 (employed by Agilent Technologies)

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