Re: [Tinyos-help] sampling at 3 KHZ on tmote

2006-05-11 Thread Cory Sharp

If you are trying to sample at 3khz, you should use a hardware timer
instead of a virtualized timer in TimerJiffy or TimerMilli.  You will
need to pick one that isn't used by other services.  I believe I've
posted in the past listing which timers are allocated and which are
not, search the archives.  The interface you'll want to use is
MSP430Compare.

It can be tricky to do all of that in TinyOS 1.x.  We've cleaned that
all up in Moteiv Boomerang, which you can download from
www.moteiv.com.  In Boomerang, you can allocate a new hardware timer
with new Alarm32khzC(); which gives an instance of an Alarm
interface that maps down to a hardware timer without conflict.

Cory

On 5/10/06, jagan nath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all I need to sample at 3KHz for my application, I'm using
tmotes. Which interface do I use for this.

2. What is the difference between Timerjiffy and Timermilli interfaces

regards
jagan

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Re: [Tinyos-help] sampling at 3 KHZ on tmote

2006-05-11 Thread jagan nath

Thanks for a prompt reply,
can i port my application written in 1.x to boomerang directly ,
because I 'm afraid i have already done too much of work and it will
be late if i have to make too many changes.
Is there any work around.

I'm presently trying to work on a copy of the timerjiffyasyncC. I have
changed the timer from B4 to B5 ( i think B5 is free). But I'm not
clear as to what jiffy value to use in the
Timerjiffyasync.setoneshot(jiffy) in order to sample at 3Khz.

regards
jagan


On 5/11/06, Cory Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If you are trying to sample at 3khz, you should use a hardware timer
instead of a virtualized timer in TimerJiffy or TimerMilli.  You will
need to pick one that isn't used by other services.  I believe I've
posted in the past listing which timers are allocated and which are
not, search the archives.  The interface you'll want to use is
MSP430Compare.

It can be tricky to do all of that in TinyOS 1.x.  We've cleaned that
all up in Moteiv Boomerang, which you can download from
www.moteiv.com.  In Boomerang, you can allocate a new hardware timer
with new Alarm32khzC(); which gives an instance of an Alarm
interface that maps down to a hardware timer without conflict.

Cory

On 5/10/06, jagan nath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all I need to sample at 3KHz for my application, I'm using
 tmotes. Which interface do I use for this.

 2. What is the difference between Timerjiffy and Timermilli interfaces

 regards
 jagan

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[Tinyos-help] Change rate of reading in OScope

2006-05-11 Thread Kanishk Panwar
Hello,
I am using TOSBase program on my gateway mote and
Oscilloscope on my sensor mote to reading temperature.
I get the reading in every 3 seconds from  each
channel. How do I slow down this process to say 8
seconds?

Please suggest.

Thank you,
Kanishk Panwar.


KANISHK PANWAR
Dept. of Computer Science, 
Rochester Institute of Technology,
247 Kimball Drive, Rochester, NY 14623, USA.   
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RE: [Tinyos-help] Change rate of reading in OScope

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Collett
Kanishk,

I think all you need to do is edit the line in OscilloscopeM.nc

call Timer.start(TIMER_REPEAT, 8000);

The timer units are in miliseconds, so 8000 would give you timer triggers every 
8 seconds. You can look at the timer interface in tos/interfaces for a bit more 
info.

Mike

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From: Kanishk Panwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2006 09:20
To: help
Subject: [Tinyos-help] Change rate of reading in OScope


Hello,
I am using TOSBase program on my gateway mote and
Oscilloscope on my sensor mote to reading temperature.
I get the reading in every 3 seconds from  each
channel. How do I slow down this process to say 8
seconds?

Please suggest.

Thank you,
Kanishk Panwar.


KANISHK PANWAR
Dept. of Computer Science, 
Rochester Institute of Technology,
247 Kimball Drive, Rochester, NY 14623, USA.   
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Mobile: 585 503 3447


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RE: [Tinyos-help] Change rate of reading in OScope

2006-05-11 Thread Harri Siirtola


To be exact, the parameter is binary milliseconds. To get an accurate 8 sec 
interval you should use 8000 * 1024.


Regards,

Harri

At 09:50 AM 5/11/2006 +0100, Michael Collett wrote:

Kanishk,

I think all you need to do is edit the line in OscilloscopeM.nc

call Timer.start(TIMER_REPEAT, 8000);

The timer units are in miliseconds, so 8000 would give you timer triggers 
every 8 seconds. You can look at the timer interface in tos/interfaces for 
a bit more info.


Mike

-Original Message-
From: Kanishk Panwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 May 2006 09:20
To: help
Subject: [Tinyos-help] Change rate of reading in OScope


Hello,
I am using TOSBase program on my gateway mote and
Oscilloscope on my sensor mote to reading temperature.
I get the reading in every 3 seconds from  each
channel. How do I slow down this process to say 8
seconds?

Please suggest.

Thank you,
Kanishk Panwar.


KANISHK PANWAR
Dept. of Computer Science,
Rochester Institute of Technology,
247 Kimball Drive, Rochester, NY 14623, USA.
Phone: 585 424 8633
Mobile: 585 503 3447


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RE: [Tinyos-help] Change rate of reading in OScope

2006-05-11 Thread Kanishk Panwar
apparently there are 2 OScope programs !!!

C:\Program
Files\UCB\cygwin\opt\tinyos-1.x\apps\Oscilloscope

AND

C:\Program
Files\UCB\cygwin\opt\tinyos-1.x\contrib\moteiv\apps\Oscilliscope


TIMER_REPEAT was ONLY found in first application path


  /**
   * Starts the SensorControl and CommControl
components.
   * @return Always returns SUCCESS.
   */
  command result_t StdControl.start() {
call SensorControl.start();
call Timer.start(TIMER_REPEAT, 125);
call CommControl.start();
return SUCCESS;
  }

-Kanishk.

--- Harri Siirtola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 To be exact, the parameter is binary milliseconds.
 To get an accurate 8 sec 
 interval you should use 8000 * 1024.
 
 Regards,
 
  Harri
 
 At 09:50 AM 5/11/2006 +0100, Michael Collett wrote:
 Kanishk,
 
 I think all you need to do is edit the line in
 OscilloscopeM.nc
 
 call Timer.start(TIMER_REPEAT, 8000);
 
 The timer units are in miliseconds, so 8000 would
 give you timer triggers 
 every 8 seconds. You can look at the timer
 interface in tos/interfaces for 
 a bit more info.
 
 Mike

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[Tinyos-help] Re: Tinyos-help Digest, Vol 37, Issue 48

2006-05-11 Thread Harish Prabhu
Joe, Can you tell us what those two bugs are ?Roberto, Have you turned off the radio?Regards,Harish
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:56:14 -0700From: Joe Polastre [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Delta/Trawler lowpower power consumption ontmote sky
To: Roberto Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: tos tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.eduMessage-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Battery voltage is not a particularly good indicator of powerconsumption because it is affected by temperature and ambientenvironment.Having said that, there are two known bugs in lowpower in Boomerang
2.0.2.A forthcoming 2.0.3 release will be available very soon.-JoeOn 5/10/06, Roberto Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am doing some experiments with Delta/Trawler in lowpower mode using
 telosb motes.However, I am seeing much higher than expected voltage drops (approximately 32 mV/day using plain alkaline batteries) even though I am only sending 1 data sample per 6 seconds/per mote.Are
 there any special compiler flags that I need to set besides the lowpower flag to see the battery performance increase? Right now I am installing the software using the following line in
 the apps/Delta directory: make tmote lowpower install 0, bsl 8 Your help is greatly appreciated. Thank You, Roberto ___
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[Tinyos-help] Cannot create docs

2006-05-11 Thread 闻磊
hi,
recently i work on the Tinyos to complete my bachelor paper.But i meet some strange things,so i want to ask if anyone could solve it.
I use tinyos1.1.0.it is ok when i compile the programs in the apps,but when i turn into the /tinyos-1.x/contrib,all the apps in the location cannot be compiled,and when i use the command 'make docs pc',there is a lot of error.

Any answer concerning this would be appreciated.
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[Tinyos-help] Send a big packet or split into multiple packets?

2006-05-11 Thread Nue Noi
Hi all,There have been a lot of discussions on the packet size we should use (esp. on IEEE 802.15.4 compliant platforms).We all know that the maximum packet size we could use is 128 bytes and normally what we have as a defult
packet size is 28 bytes for IEEE 802.15.4. But I couldn't find a clear explaination why we don't use a long packet size.For instance, in TinyDB the packet size is limited to 50 bytes.Imagine that I have a big amount of data I want to send at the same time that could fit into one big packet.
Shall I send this with one big packet or split this into multiple packets? There is of course a trade-off between them.I'm not quite sure which approach I should go for. The factors that I could think of are latency, PRR and complexity.
Splitting one big packet into multiple packets will introduce the transmission delay but on the other hand retransmissionof a big packet may take longer time. I wonder if there is a study on this already?By the way, I also found some discussion from Cory about the double buffering technique used in 
TinyOS2.0. Thislimits the packet size to 64 maximum but this is not my focus at the moment.Any help would be appreciated.Regards,Nuenoi
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Re: [Tinyos-help] Cannot create docs

2006-05-11 Thread Aditya Bhave
The only reason i can think of is the wrong paths set in the Makefile of the apps in the/contrib folder. Edit the Makefile to include the Makerules file in the /apps folder of the main tinyos tree.(See the Makefile in tinyos-1.x
/apps/Blink to see how the Makefile should be written)On 5/11/06, 闻磊 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
recently i work on the Tinyos to complete my bachelor paper.But i meet some strange things,so i want to ask if anyone could solve it.
I use tinyos1.1.0.it is ok when i compile the programs in the apps,but when i turn into the /tinyos-1.x/contrib,all the apps in the location cannot be compiled,and when i use the command 'make docs pc',there is a lot of error.

Any answer concerning this would be appreciated.
Thank you.

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Re: [Tinyos-help] Re: Tinyos-help Digest, Vol 37, Issue 48

2006-05-11 Thread Joe Polastre

Hi Harish,

 There's a bug in the clock recalibration for the msp430 in 1.x and
Boomerang.  It required a rewrite of the clock recalibration using
correct resource arbitration.

-Joe

On 5/11/06, Harish Prabhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Joe, Can you tell us what those two bugs are ?

Roberto, Have you turned off the radio?

Regards,
Harish


 Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 11:56:14 -0700
 From: Joe Polastre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Tinyos-help] Delta/Trawler lowpower power consumption on
 tmote   sky
 To: Roberto Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: tos tinyos-help@millennium.berkeley.edu
 Message-ID:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Battery voltage is not a particularly good indicator of power
 consumption because it is affected by temperature and ambient
 environment.

 Having said that, there are two known bugs in lowpower in Boomerang
 2.0.2.  A forthcoming 2.0.3 release will be available very soon.

 -Joe

 On 5/10/06, Roberto Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am doing some experiments with Delta/Trawler in lowpower mode using
  telosb motes.  However, I am seeing much higher than expected voltage
  drops (approximately 32 mV/day using plain alkaline batteries) even
  though I am only sending 1 data sample per 6 seconds/per mote.  Are
  there any special compiler flags that I need to set besides the
  lowpower flag to see the battery performance increase?
 
  Right now I am installing the software using the following line in
  the apps/Delta directory:
 
  make tmote lowpower install 0, bsl 8
 
  Your help is greatly appreciated.
 
  Thank You,
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[Tinyos-help] where to find readme for tinyos

2006-05-11 Thread shiyuan zhang
Hi,

I am using Boomerang by Moteiv. TinyOS contains so many *.nc files. For instance, in 
opt/moteiv/tinyos-1.x/tos/system
opt/moteiv/tinyos-1.x/tos/platform

Where could I find a readme file, which can briefly describe what's the usage of those modules? I am quite confusingby so many modules. Especially, moteiv seems separate the rule by putting their files in tinyos-1.x
/contrib/ directory...

I am new to TinyOS, please suggest a reference with brief description ofall modules (it is really hard to tell from name):
(1) What's it for?
(2) How to use?
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[Tinyos-help] Regarding Time Sync and Timestamping

2006-05-11 Thread Jose L. Ponce
Dear all,

I have been working on a time sync protocol between the pc and the
motes. I think I have solved most of the problems on the java side and I
would like to improve things on the motes.

My test for the time-sync consists of running the sync protocol every
i.e. 60 seconds and sending messages to 2 motes every 2 seconds which
say: at time X, change the DAC. I use a digital oscilloscope to
monitor the outputs and see how good the response is (difference between
both responses). As for now, I have noticed that for each resync the
delay in the changes of the DAC outputs remains constant, but there are
great differences between two resyncs: one might give a difference of
1ms and the next a difference of 20ms. I am trying to reduce this
variability as much as possible

As Janos suggested, I have looked for a way to do the timestamping with
the SFD interrupt. Looking through CC2420RadioM, I have noticed 
async event result_t SFD.captured(uint16_t time).

Looks like there is a timestamping going on already, and I have read
somewhere that it is recorded on rxbufptr-time, so I've been trying to
extract it on message reception (In ReceiveMsg.receive) like this:

event TOS_MsgPtr ReceiveMsg.receive( TOS_MsgPtr msg ) {
struct TOS_Msg* r_time;
r_time = (struct TOS_Msg *)msg-data;
t2 = (r_time-time)/0.032;
}


But it doesn't seem to be working. I get three or four fixed values every time 
a synchronisation is run (0 and 10013) come to mind...

I have tried vu's timestamping as well but on a call to get timestamp t2 is 
always 
0. Does anyone know a simple way to get a timestamping with the SFD interrupt 
handler?
Or a suggestion as to to why a resynchronisation has such a big variability 
while the delays
are so constant (which would suggest that the problem is not on the timers, but 
on the send/receive 
interfaces) and how to improve it?

Any comments are appreciated.

Thank you,

- Jose.


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[Tinyos-help] Help me with deluge

2006-05-11 Thread bhushan bhatt
I am trying to make Deluge work with Blink to test over the air programming. The manual asks to type : % make platform install. But cygwin does not recognize % symbol. How to compile this application ?Bhushan
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Re: [Tinyos-help] Help me with deluge

2006-05-11 Thread Michael Schippling

I think the % was an attempt to show the shell prompt...
just type: make platform install  where platform is your mote type,
like:  make mica2 install
MS


bhushan bhatt wrote:
I am trying to make Deluge work with Blink to test over the air 
programming. The manual asks to type :   % make platform install. But 
cygwin does not recognize % symbol. How to compile this application ?


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[Tinyos-help] Monitoring voltage of each node in TOSSIM

2006-05-11 Thread Abid Ali Minhas
Hi all,Does TOSSIM care about the voltage of each node during its execution? Does it decrease the value of node voltage depending upon its usage (transmitting, receiving, processing)?Can this change in voltage be reported to the base station?
If yes, how can it be done? Which piece of code (and where) will be used to accomplish this task?I know it works for real mica2 mote hardware. We are using Moteview, surgeview. to look the battery voltage of each mica2 mote in our network. But for TOSSIM...???
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[Tinyos-help] Question on TinyOS?

2006-05-11 Thread nandy jones
Hi ,   I was wondering whats the size of TinyOS...i know its kind of wiered Q but i searched everywhere but didnt get any answeri would appreciate if someone could answer and also where/in which document can i find much about the previous versions of this particular embedded operating system.Thanksnandy
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Re: [Tinyos-help] where to find readme for tinyos

2006-05-11 Thread shiyuan zhang
Thanks.

(1) Anyone know how to read TinyOS-Wiki ??? The website http://cents.cs.berkeley.edu/tinywiki/index.php?title=Special:Userloginreturnto=Systems
does not permit to create an account to login, and I tried email[EMAIL PROTECTED]but got email-failure message.

(2) Does someone happen to know a readme file describe each module in TinyOS: (1) what is it (2) how to use ??
On 5/11/06, Aditya Bhave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:) hehe yes i faced the same problem a month back. Since my project is over i havent seen it since. I thought they must have fixed that login problem by now...A Wiki is a place where people put up documentation about new modules they discovered and used. So is someone learns about a new module, he puts documentaton about that in the Wiki. 
Ive forgotten the exact links. Search the TinyOS website to get links to various sources. You might find the attached file also useful

On 5/12/06, shiyuan zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you. I tried to access wiki, but it seems need a login account (which I find no way to create). Could you send me an accessible link? P.S. What's in WiKi?

On 5/11/06, Aditya Bhave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote: 

I have the same problem. TInyOS doesnt seem to be documented properly at all. You will have to keep reading these mailing lists to understand the functions of new modules. In addition read the TinyOS documentation Wiki and TEPs for more information. Google these terms to get the related websites. Thats how I did my project. 
I know its very frustrating to work with an OS which has hopeless documentation :)

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Hi,

I am using Boomerang by Moteiv. TinyOS contains so many *.nc files. For instance, in 
opt/moteiv/tinyos-1.x/tos/system
opt/moteiv/tinyos-1.x/tos/platform

Where could I find a readme file, which can briefly describe what's the usage of those modules? I am quite confusingby so many modules. Especially, moteiv seems separate the rule by putting their files in tinyos-1.x
 /contrib/ directory...

I am new to TinyOS, please suggest a reference with brief description ofall modules (it is really hard to tell from name):
(1) What's it for?
(2) How to use?
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Re: [Tinyos-help] where to find readme for tinyos

2006-05-11 Thread shiyuan zhang
I find a good but incompleteone here:
http://cse.yeditepe.edu.tr/tnl/html/LOCAL/files/docs/tos-source-tree/components_p.html
Can some TinyOS folks share a more?

On 5/11/06, shiyuan zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks.

(1) Anyone know how to read TinyOS-Wiki ??? The website 
http://cents.cs.berkeley.edu/tinywiki/index.php?title=Special:Userloginreturnto=Systems does not permit to create an account to login, and I tried email
[EMAIL PROTECTED]but got email-failure message.

(2) Does someone happen to know a readme file describe each module in TinyOS: (1) what is it (2) how to use ??

On 5/11/06, Aditya Bhave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:) hehe yes i faced the same problem a month back. Since my project is over i havent seen it since. I thought they must have fixed that login problem by now...A Wiki is a place where people put up documentation about new modules they discovered and used. So is someone learns about a new module, he puts documentaton about that in the Wiki. 
Ive forgotten the exact links. Search the TinyOS website to get links to various sources. You might find the attached file also useful

On 5/12/06, shiyuan zhang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote: 

Thank you. I tried to access wiki, but it seems need a login account (which I find no way to create). Could you send me an accessible link? P.S. What's in WiKi?

On 5/11/06, Aditya Bhave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I have the same problem. TInyOS doesnt seem to be documented properly at all. You will have to keep reading these mailing lists to understand the functions of new modules. In addition read the TinyOS documentation Wiki and TEPs for more information. Google these terms to get the related websites. Thats how I did my project. 
I know its very frustrating to work with an OS which has hopeless documentation :)

On 5/11/06, shiyuan zhang  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Hi,

I am using Boomerang by Moteiv. TinyOS contains so many *.nc files. For instance, in 
opt/moteiv/tinyos-1.x/tos/system
opt/moteiv/tinyos-1.x/tos/platform

Where could I find a readme file, which can briefly describe what's the usage of those modules? I am quite confusingby so many modules. Especially, moteiv seems separate the rule by putting their files in tinyos-1.x
 /contrib/ directory...

I am new to TinyOS, please suggest a reference with brief description ofall modules (it is really hard to tell from name):
(1) What's it for?
(2) How to use?
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[Tinyos-help] Deluge Ping node problem

2006-05-11 Thread bhushan bhatt
Hi all,When i try to follow the Deluge-manual and run DelugeBasic to ping the node it says : Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/tinyos/tools/Deluge. There are some pages on the help-list but it did not solve my problem. Any suggestions ??-Bhushan
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[Tinyos-help] How to set sampling rate of ADC(Tmote Sky)

2006-05-11 Thread gao bo

Hi all:

Now, I’m using the expansion connector of Tmote Sky to record same data of 
sound. But I don’t know haw to set sampling rate of ADC. 
Now, I’m using the ADCC.nc(/opt/tinyos-1.x/tos/platform/msp430) to get 
data. I call ADCControl.setSamplingRate(TOS_ADCSample120us), I think it may 
work. I use the timer with calling TimerJiffy.setPeriodic(4).Whenever it 
fired, it will call ADC.getData(). I think the sampling rate of ADC is 
8.333kHz(1/120us), but I use the function of MATLAB sound(wave,8333), I get 
noise only. Using sound(wave,2000), however, I get the sound with some 
noise. It must be that my sampling rate of ADC is 2kHz now. But how I set 
sampling rate of ADC to 8kHz? 

Thanks, 


Gao Bo

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[Tinyos-help] mica install problem

2006-05-11 Thread wh.huang
I tried follow the install instructions in:
http://www.tinyos.net/nest/doc/tutorial/lesson0.html

After keying toscheck, I can get the pass massege:
toscheck completed without error.

When I try to do the hardware verification,
there is something wrong:
I can get a exe file after keying make mica
But I can't get the log:
[
grep _e binmica/img.file | grep =\.
0x15a0 _etext=.
0x00800072 _edata=.
0x008000b6 _end=.
0x0081 __eeprom_end=.
]
in the tutorial. Any thing I missed?
 

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