[tips] New Years Resolutions, the Schools of Psychology and online concept mapping

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Britt
I've been putting together my next episode in which I connect the most  
popular new year's resolution - losing weight - with the different  
schools in psychology.  I decided to use a pretty neat online concept  
mapping tool called MeadMap.  Yes - it's made by the Mead people - the  
ones who make those small notebooks you might have used when you were  
younger.  There are a lot of mind mapping/concept mapping tools around  
today (Inspiration comes to mind), but this one is unique in some  
ways and teachers might want to check it out.  It's not free (about  
$50/year, but I think there are educational discounts), but not too  
expensive either.


Below is a link to the map I'm planning on using for the episode.  You  
can play around with the map by opening and closing the various nodes,  
but you can't edit it.  To do that you would need an account with  
Meadmap.   Thoughts/comments/feedback welcome.


http://go.meadmap.com/meadmap.html#mapid=10408publishKey=j105f4tuD0

Michael


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Re: [tips] New Years Resolutions, the Schools of Psychology and online concept mapping

2009-01-06 Thread Jonathan Mueller
Very cool map!  How easy was it to create?  Did you create it online, or did 
you create it offline and upload it?  Lot of potential if it is easy to use.
 
Jon
 
 
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 Michael Britt michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com 1/6/2009 8:08 AM 
I've been putting together my next episode in which I connect the most  
popular new year's resolution - losing weight - with the different  
schools in psychology.  I decided to use a pretty neat online concept  
mapping tool called MeadMap.  Yes - it's made by the Mead people - the  
ones who make those small notebooks you might have used when you were  
younger.  There are a lot of mind mapping/concept mapping tools around  
today (Inspiration comes to mind), but this one is unique in some  
ways and teachers might want to check it out.  It's not free (about  
$50/year, but I think there are educational discounts), but not too  
expensive either.

Below is a link to the map I'm planning on using for the episode.  You  
can play around with the map by opening and closing the various nodes,  
but you can't edit it.  To do that you would need an account with  
Meadmap.   Thoughts/comments/feedback welcome.

http://go.meadmap.com/meadmap.html#mapid=10408publishKey=j105f4tuD0 

Michael


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Re: [tips] New Years Resolutions, the Schools of Psychology and online concept mapping

2009-01-06 Thread Michael Britt
I had my notes for the various schools and how each might explain the  
difficulty of losing weight in a Word doc.  Creating the map itself  
from my notes was very easy.  You create it completely online.  I  
think there's a free trial you can get set up for.  It's definitely  
worth trying out.  I recently used the meadmap in a meeting instead of  
using PowerPoint and it was very well received.  It makes for a  
welcome replacement for PowerPoint, and in many ways it's much more  
effective than powerpoint because people can still see the big picture  
even when you're focusing on one part of the map.

Michael



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  Jan 6, 2009, at 9:18 AM, Jonathan Mueller wrote:




 Very cool map!  How easy was it to create?  Did you create it  
 online, or did you create it offline and upload it?  Lot of  
 potential if it is easy to use.

 Jon


 ===
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 Professor of Psychology
 North Central College
 30 N. Brainard St.
 Naperville, IL 60540
 voice: (630)-637-5329
 fax: (630)-637-5121
 jfmuel...@noctrl.edu
 http://jonathan.mueller.faculty.noctrl.edu


  Michael Britt michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com 1/6/2009 8:08 AM  
 
 I've been putting together my next episode in which I connect the most
 popular new year's resolution - losing weight - with the different
 schools in psychology.  I decided to use a pretty neat online concept
 mapping tool called MeadMap.  Yes - it's made by the Mead people - the
 ones who make those small notebooks you might have used when you were
 younger.  There are a lot of mind mapping/concept mapping tools around
 today (Inspiration comes to mind), but this one is unique in some
 ways and teachers might want to check it out.  It's not free (about
 $50/year, but I think there are educational discounts), but not too
 expensive either.

 Below is a link to the map I'm planning on using for the episode.  You
 can play around with the map by opening and closing the various nodes,
 but you can't edit it.  To do that you would need an account with
 Meadmap.   Thoughts/comments/feedback welcome.

 http://go.meadmap.com/meadmap.html#mapid=10408publishKey=j105f4tuD0

 Michael


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Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom

2009-01-06 Thread Beth Benoit
What a perfect follow-up study, Jim.  Interesting thought that older
players (January - June birthdates) continue to play minor
hockey till a later age than do the younger players (July - December
birthdates) who tend to drop out of the sport.

Hmmm...do you think this is a good subject pool though?  It was only one
hockey program, one season, almost 25 years ago:
METHOD
Subjects
The team rosters of all players registered in the hockey program of the
Edmonton Minor Hockey
Association for the 1983-84 season comprised the sample for this study.

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
New Hampshire


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca wrote:

 Hi

 Here's a nice study with data.

 http://www.socialproblemindex.ualberta.ca/RelAgeMinorHockeyCJBS.pdf

 Jim


 James M. Clark
 Professor of Psychology
 204-786-9757
 204-774-4134 Fax
 j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca

 Department of Psychology
 University of Winnipeg
 Winnipeg, Manitoba
 R3B 2E9
 CANADA


  Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 05-Jan-09 6:30 PM 
 Beth Benoit wrote:
 
   The section I'm considering using is the claim that Canadian ice
  hockey players are more likely to be born in the first few months of
  the calendar year.  I'll probably follow the same method as
  above, breaking students into groups to examine the roster I'll hand
  out, then giving them Gladwell's explanation.
  
  I'd also be interested in thoughts from our Canadian brethren about
  the concept of early birthdates being helpful to hockey success.
   Stephen, Chris?

 Funny, I had just heard this claim over Christmas from a relative of
 mine. She said that something like half of NHLers are born in the first
 three or four months of the year. But for all I know, she got this from
 the Gladwell book (which I haven't read).

 The general claim makes some sense to me. When kids are young, the size
 and coordination differences between those born in January and those
 born in December can be quite noticeable. I'd be a little surprised,
 however, if this continued on into the elite levels as strongly as is
 claimed for three reasons: (1) Many professional hockey players are
 mostly huge compared to the rest of us, and so they were probably never
 small compared to their classes, even if they were a few months younger
 then average. (2) It is not the case that once you're the best in your
 class you always remain that way. For instance, I was just talking to
 friends whose 14-yr-old daughter has been very good a volleyball until
 now. She was also taller than most of her classmates, but this year she
 her growth has slowed while many of her classmates have caught up or
 passed her, so she is quite suddenly not as dominant as she has been up
 to now. By the time one reaches elite levels of sport, I would expect
 that much of the early advantage would be neutralized. (3) At elite
 levels of a sport, sheer physical talent is an important factor. Most of
 we ordinary mortals could not compete with them even if we practiced as
 many hours a day as they do.

 Canada goes against Sweden for the world junior championship tonight! Go
 Canucks!

 Chris
 --

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 Department of Psychology
 York University
 Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
 Canada



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RE: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom

2009-01-06 Thread Dennis Goff
Similar results have been found for US soccer players in the Olympic 
Development Program. The effect might only hold for male athletes though. I 
remember seeing a similar result for professional players in Europe. I am 
working from home today and don't have access to the references. I think that a 
search for birth date and elite athlete on Google Scholar will find some of 
that research. 

Best
Dennis


-Original Message-
From: beth.ben...@gmail.com on behalf of Beth Benoit
Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 9:30 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom
 
What a perfect follow-up study, Jim.  Interesting thought that older
players (January - June birthdates) continue to play minor
hockey till a later age than do the younger players (July - December
birthdates) who tend to drop out of the sport.

Hmmm...do you think this is a good subject pool though?  It was only one
hockey program, one season, almost 25 years ago:
METHOD
Subjects
The team rosters of all players registered in the hockey program of the
Edmonton Minor Hockey
Association for the 1983-84 season comprised the sample for this study.

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
New Hampshire


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca wrote:

 Hi

 Here's a nice study with data.

 http://www.socialproblemindex.ualberta.ca/RelAgeMinorHockeyCJBS.pdf

 Jim


 James M. Clark
 Professor of Psychology
 204-786-9757
 204-774-4134 Fax
 j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca

 Department of Psychology
 University of Winnipeg
 Winnipeg, Manitoba
 R3B 2E9
 CANADA


  Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 05-Jan-09 6:30 PM 
 Beth Benoit wrote:
 
   The section I'm considering using is the claim that Canadian ice
  hockey players are more likely to be born in the first few months of
  the calendar year.  I'll probably follow the same method as
  above, breaking students into groups to examine the roster I'll hand
  out, then giving them Gladwell's explanation.
  
  I'd also be interested in thoughts from our Canadian brethren about
  the concept of early birthdates being helpful to hockey success.
   Stephen, Chris?

 Funny, I had just heard this claim over Christmas from a relative of
 mine. She said that something like half of NHLers are born in the first
 three or four months of the year. But for all I know, she got this from
 the Gladwell book (which I haven't read).

 The general claim makes some sense to me. When kids are young, the size
 and coordination differences between those born in January and those
 born in December can be quite noticeable. I'd be a little surprised,
 however, if this continued on into the elite levels as strongly as is
 claimed for three reasons: (1) Many professional hockey players are
 mostly huge compared to the rest of us, and so they were probably never
 small compared to their classes, even if they were a few months younger
 then average. (2) It is not the case that once you're the best in your
 class you always remain that way. For instance, I was just talking to
 friends whose 14-yr-old daughter has been very good a volleyball until
 now. She was also taller than most of her classmates, but this year she
 her growth has slowed while many of her classmates have caught up or
 passed her, so she is quite suddenly not as dominant as she has been up
 to now. By the time one reaches elite levels of sport, I would expect
 that much of the early advantage would be neutralized. (3) At elite
 levels of a sport, sheer physical talent is an important factor. Most of
 we ordinary mortals could not compete with them even if we practiced as
 many hours a day as they do.

 Canada goes against Sweden for the world junior championship tonight! Go
 Canucks!

 Chris
 --

 Christopher D. Green
 Department of Psychology
 York University
 Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
 Canada



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Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom

2009-01-06 Thread Jim Clark
Hi

If you google birthdate sports success quite a few studies come up, including 
more recent one's in hockey and a number for other sports.  I did not look at 
them all, but there were interesting variations ... for example, I seem to 
remember something for soccer in UK where age cut-offs occur in fall rather 
than at end of year.  Other sports did not show the effect.  Presumably even 
more would be found in PsycInfo or similar sports databases.

I like your idea about actually looking at team rosters.  Depending on ease of 
access, perhaps students in class could find different rosters for different 
sports in different locales??

One possible confounding is base rate for births by month.  Here is link to 
statistics for Canada, showing that if anything base rates favor Mar to 
Sept/Oct months (i.e., more births in those months).  Perhaps class can 
generate some hypotheses for that effect?

http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/Products/Reference/tech_rep/age_sex/table2.cfm
 

Nice exercise!

Take care
Jim

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Winnipeg, Manitoba
R3B 2E9
CANADA


 Beth Benoit bethben...@metrocast.net 06-Jan-09 8:30 AM 
What a perfect follow-up study, Jim.  Interesting thought that older
players (January - June birthdates) continue to play minor
hockey till a later age than do the younger players (July - December
birthdates) who tend to drop out of the sport.

Hmmm...do you think this is a good subject pool though?  It was only one
hockey program, one season, almost 25 years ago:
METHOD
Subjects
The team rosters of all players registered in the hockey program of the
Edmonton Minor Hockey
Association for the 1983-84 season comprised the sample for this study.

Beth Benoit
Granite State College
New Hampshire


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca wrote:

 Hi

 Here's a nice study with data.

 http://www.socialproblemindex.ualberta.ca/RelAgeMinorHockeyCJBS.pdf 

 Jim


 James M. Clark
 Professor of Psychology
 204-786-9757
 204-774-4134 Fax
 j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca 

 Department of Psychology
 University of Winnipeg
 Winnipeg, Manitoba
 R3B 2E9
 CANADA


  Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 05-Jan-09 6:30 PM 
 Beth Benoit wrote:
 
   The section I'm considering using is the claim that Canadian ice
  hockey players are more likely to be born in the first few months of
  the calendar year.  I'll probably follow the same method as
  above, breaking students into groups to examine the roster I'll hand
  out, then giving them Gladwell's explanation.
  
  I'd also be interested in thoughts from our Canadian brethren about
  the concept of early birthdates being helpful to hockey success.
   Stephen, Chris?

 Funny, I had just heard this claim over Christmas from a relative of
 mine. She said that something like half of NHLers are born in the first
 three or four months of the year. But for all I know, she got this from
 the Gladwell book (which I haven't read).

 The general claim makes some sense to me. When kids are young, the size
 and coordination differences between those born in January and those
 born in December can be quite noticeable. I'd be a little surprised,
 however, if this continued on into the elite levels as strongly as is
 claimed for three reasons: (1) Many professional hockey players are
 mostly huge compared to the rest of us, and so they were probably never
 small compared to their classes, even if they were a few months younger
 then average. (2) It is not the case that once you're the best in your
 class you always remain that way. For instance, I was just talking to
 friends whose 14-yr-old daughter has been very good a volleyball until
 now. She was also taller than most of her classmates, but this year she
 her growth has slowed while many of her classmates have caught up or
 passed her, so she is quite suddenly not as dominant as she has been up
 to now. By the time one reaches elite levels of sport, I would expect
 that much of the early advantage would be neutralized. (3) At elite
 levels of a sport, sheer physical talent is an important factor. Most of
 we ordinary mortals could not compete with them even if we practiced as
 many hours a day as they do.

 Canada goes against Sweden for the world junior championship tonight! Go
 Canucks!

 Chris
 --

 Christopher D. Green
 Department of Psychology
 York University
 Toronto, ON M3J 1P3
 Canada



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[tips] Cross-cultural/wife beating

2009-01-06 Thread Msylvester
In South Korea,it is expected that husbands beat their wives to strenghthen 
their relationship.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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Re: [tips] Extinction

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Brandon
But then we must deal with punishment's side effects.
It's still not optimal.
The best alternative when available is the reinforcement of  
alternative (and incompatible where possible) behavior.
This reallocates reinforcement (which we assume is occurring as a  
consequence of the behavior we're trying to eliminate) rather than  
simply removing or competing with it.
Makes better ecological sense.

On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:53 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

 With regard to the note on extinction.

 With 121 posts since the last time I logged on, I must admit I  
 didn't read a lot of them. But somehwere in the feeding frenzy  
 thread about M. Sylvester someone mentioned using extinction rather  
 than punishment because it has been shown to be more effective.

 Would it be fair to say that extinction is more effective than  
 punishment because we can't ethically use punishment optimally?  
 That is, immediate and as severe as possible?

Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
paul.bran...@mnsu.edu


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[tips] Cross-cultural scientific screw-up, big-time

2009-01-06 Thread sblack
The respected German science journal Max Planck Forschung wanted a cover 
illustration for its special issue on China, and selected some elegant 
Chinese calligraphy of what they thought was a classical poem.

You can admire it at:

http://shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_sandhaus/chinese-poem_98342t.jpg

Question: What did their illustration really say? 


One translation I picked off the web goes like this:

We paid handsomely to hire Manager KK and Camay full time;
They personally present young and beautiful girls;
Northern beauties in million swaying poses;
Young housewives of fiery figures;
All bewitching, seductive and are here on board today.

In other words, it's an advertisement for a strip joint or wh*re-house.

Oops! The on-line image has now been replaced with the title of a book by 
a 17th century Catholic priest. 

Stephen

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Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University  e-mail:  sbl...@ubishops.ca
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Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom

2009-01-06 Thread Beth Benoit
Annette,Interesting!  Gladwell was talking about Canadian hockey teams
though.  I suspect that Malcolm is right, and there is an effect across the
board, but perhaps not as robust as he suggests except in specific teams.
 More to ponder
Beth Benoit
Granite State College
New Hampshire

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM, tay...@sandiego.edu wrote:

 I must have nothing else to do today because I decided to print out all the
 NHL
 rosters.

 Here is what I found:

 205/682 players are listed with birth dates in JanFebMar.

 A chi-square analysis suggests this is significant at less than .01 and
 hence
 could not have occurred by chance.

 Of course, the same holds true for a comparison of players who list their
 home
 towns in North America (where presumably the elite teams are decided by
 birth
 dates, versus those whose home towns are outside North America (the VAST
 majority from former Soviet Union or Scandinavian countries--don't know
 what
 to think about Korea or Brazil, except these kids must have lived
 elsewhere) and
 for whom I don't know if the birthdate thing holds true where the figures
 are:
 North American born JanFebMar=142
 North American born AMJJASOND = 339
 outside NA born JanFebMar = 63
 outside NA born AMJJASOND = 138

 Now this all gets more dramatic if you look at top and bottom 4 teams in
 the
 current (midseason just about) standing:
 Top 4 teams: San Jose, Boston, Detroit, Washington:
 JFM = 39 players
 rest = 63 players
 So 38%, or more than the expected 33.3%

 Bottom 4 teams: Islanders, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Ottawa
 JFM = 29 players
 rest = 72 players
 So 32%, or slightly less than the expected 33.3%

 So, Beth, maybe overall there is something to Gladwell's
 hypothese--although I
 do like your caveat to check things out :)

 Annette


 Annette

 Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph.D.
 Professor of Psychology
 University of San Diego
 5998 Alcala Park
 San Diego, CA 92110
 619-260-4006
 tay...@sandiego.edu

  Original message 
 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:59:34 -0500
 From: Dennis Goff dg...@randolphcollege.edu
 Subject: RE: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
 
 Similar results have been found for US soccer players in the Olympic
 Development Program. The effect might only hold for male athletes though. I
 remember seeing a similar result for professional players in Europe. I am
 working from home today and don't have access to the references. I think
 that a
 search for birth date and elite athlete on Google Scholar will find some
 of that
 research.
 
 Best
 Dennis
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: beth.ben...@gmail.com on behalf of Beth Benoit
 Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 9:30 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom
 
 What a perfect follow-up study, Jim.  Interesting thought that older
 players (January - June birthdates) continue to play minor
 hockey till a later age than do the younger players (July - December
 birthdates) who tend to drop out of the sport.
 
 Hmmm...do you think this is a good subject pool though?  It was only one
 hockey program, one season, almost 25 years ago:
 METHOD
 Subjects
 The team rosters of all players registered in the hockey program of the
 Edmonton Minor Hockey
 Association for the 1983-84 season comprised the sample for this study.
 
 Beth Benoit
 Granite State College
 New Hampshire
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  Here's a nice study with data.
 
  http://www.socialproblemindex.ualberta.ca/RelAgeMinorHockeyCJBS.pdf
 
  Jim
 
 
  James M. Clark
  Professor of Psychology
  204-786-9757
  204-774-4134 Fax
  j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca
 
  Department of Psychology
  University of Winnipeg
  Winnipeg, Manitoba
  R3B 2E9
  CANADA
 
 
   Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 05-Jan-09 6:30 PM 
  Beth Benoit wrote:
  
The section I'm considering using is the claim that Canadian ice
   hockey players are more likely to be born in the first few months of
   the calendar year.  I'll probably follow the same method as
   above, breaking students into groups to examine the roster I'll hand
   out, then giving them Gladwell's explanation.
   
   I'd also be interested in thoughts from our Canadian brethren about
   the concept of early birthdates being helpful to hockey success.
Stephen, Chris?
 
  Funny, I had just heard this claim over Christmas from a relative of
  mine. She said that something like half of NHLers are born in the first
  three or four months of the year. But for all I know, she got this from
  the Gladwell book (which I haven't read).
 
  The general claim makes some sense to me. When kids are young, the size
  and coordination differences between those born in January and those
  born in December can be quite noticeable. I'd be a little surprised,
  however, if this continued on into the elite levels as strongly as is
  claimed for 

Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom

2009-01-06 Thread Gerald Peterson
Is this an effect--or rather an association?  Also, stat. significance simply 
means that it is not likely chance, not that it absolutely could not be due to 
chance.  Gary



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 Beth Benoit bethben...@metrocast.net 1/6/2009 1:59 pm 
Annette,Interesting!  Gladwell was talking about Canadian hockey teams
though.  I suspect that Malcolm is right, and there is an effect across the
board, but perhaps not as robust as he suggests except in specific teams.
 More to ponder
Beth Benoit
Granite State College
New Hampshire

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:39 PM, tay...@sandiego.edu wrote:

 I must have nothing else to do today because I decided to print out all the
 NHL
 rosters.

 Here is what I found:

 205/682 players are listed with birth dates in JanFebMar.

 A chi-square analysis suggests this is significant at less than .01 and
 hence
 could not have occurred by chance.

 Of course, the same holds true for a comparison of players who list their
 home
 towns in North America (where presumably the elite teams are decided by
 birth
 dates, versus those whose home towns are outside North America (the VAST
 majority from former Soviet Union or Scandinavian countries--don't know
 what
 to think about Korea or Brazil, except these kids must have lived
 elsewhere) and
 for whom I don't know if the birthdate thing holds true where the figures
 are:
 North American born JanFebMar=142
 North American born AMJJASOND = 339
 outside NA born JanFebMar = 63
 outside NA born AMJJASOND = 138

 Now this all gets more dramatic if you look at top and bottom 4 teams in
 the
 current (midseason just about) standing:
 Top 4 teams: San Jose, Boston, Detroit, Washington:
 JFM = 39 players
 rest = 63 players
 So 38%, or more than the expected 33.3%

 Bottom 4 teams: Islanders, Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Ottawa
 JFM = 29 players
 rest = 72 players
 So 32%, or slightly less than the expected 33.3%

 So, Beth, maybe overall there is something to Gladwell's
 hypothese--although I
 do like your caveat to check things out :)

 Annette


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  Original message 
 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 09:59:34 -0500
 From: Dennis Goff dg...@randolphcollege.edu
 Subject: RE: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
 
 Similar results have been found for US soccer players in the Olympic
 Development Program. The effect might only hold for male athletes though. I
 remember seeing a similar result for professional players in Europe. I am
 working from home today and don't have access to the references. I think
 that a
 search for birth date and elite athlete on Google Scholar will find some
 of that
 research.
 
 Best
 Dennis
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: beth.ben...@gmail.com on behalf of Beth Benoit
 Sent: Tue 1/6/2009 9:30 AM
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
 Subject: Re: [tips] using Outliers in the classroom
 
 What a perfect follow-up study, Jim.  Interesting thought that older
 players (January - June birthdates) continue to play minor
 hockey till a later age than do the younger players (July - December
 birthdates) who tend to drop out of the sport.
 
 Hmmm...do you think this is a good subject pool though?  It was only one
 hockey program, one season, almost 25 years ago:
 METHOD
 Subjects
 The team rosters of all players registered in the hockey program of the
 Edmonton Minor Hockey
 Association for the 1983-84 season comprised the sample for this study.
 
 Beth Benoit
 Granite State College
 New Hampshire
 
 
 On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jim Clark j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca wrote:
 
  Hi
 
  Here's a nice study with data.
 
  http://www.socialproblemindex.ualberta.ca/RelAgeMinorHockeyCJBS.pdf 
 
  Jim
 
 
  James M. Clark
  Professor of Psychology
  204-786-9757
  204-774-4134 Fax
  j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca 
 
  Department of Psychology
  University of Winnipeg
  Winnipeg, Manitoba
  R3B 2E9
  CANADA
 
 
   Christopher D. Green chri...@yorku.ca 05-Jan-09 6:30 PM 
  Beth Benoit wrote:
  
The section I'm considering using is the claim that Canadian ice
   hockey players are more likely to be born in the first few months of
   the calendar year.  I'll probably follow the same method as
   above, breaking students into groups to examine the roster I'll hand
   out, then giving them Gladwell's explanation.
   
   I'd also be interested in thoughts from our Canadian brethren about
   the concept of early birthdates being helpful to hockey success.
Stephen, Chris?
 
  Funny, I had just heard this claim over Christmas from a relative of
  mine. She said that something like half of NHLers are born in the first
  three or four months of the year. But for 

[tips] Lie to Me

2009-01-06 Thread Frantz, Sue
For those who get TV's Fox channel...  I've been watching the ads for
the new show Lie to Me beginning January 21st and wondering if it was
based on Paul Ekman's work.  It is.  http://www.paulekman.com/  

 

please, please, please be a good program

 

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RE: [tips] Lie to Me

2009-01-06 Thread Jim Matiya

I was wondering the same.
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For those who get TV’s Fox channel…  I’ve been watching the ads for the new 
show “Lie to Me” beginning January 21st and wondering if it was based on Paul 
Ekman’s work.  It is.  http://www.paulekman.com/  
 
please, please, please be a good program
 
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Re: [tips] Extinction

2009-01-06 Thread Paul Brandon
Yes -- almost as effective as a bullet in the head.
But since the side effects of punishment include conditioned  
emotional effects and avoidance behaviors, I'm not sure what the  
point is.
Punishment would be the best available intervention only within a  
limited range of life threatening situations that couldn't be  
addressed by restructuring the environment.
Remember that in practice punishment is almost inevitably paired with  
negative reinforcement (doing something that escapes or avoids the  
punisher) so that pure punishment is very hard to implement (to put  
it bluntly).
It's more than just ethics.

On Jan 6, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Michael Smith wrote:


 Yes.
 But what I was interested in is the stopping of behavior.
 If we ignore any side effects including physical maiming if  
 appropriate for the punishment and we don't care about the  
 individual, which is more effective.

 So. more from a theoretical perspective. What would eliminate a  
 behavior most effectively (again we don't care about side effects  
 or the individual concerned) postitive punishment delivered  
 immediately and as severely as possible, or reinforcement of an  
 incompatible behavior (or not rewarding the un-desired behavior).

 I would imagine it would be positive punishment. So that extinction  
 being more effective must be a qualified statement.

 Would others agree with this theoretical perspective that positive  
 punishment would be optimal (although ethically untenable)?


 --Mike

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 From: Paul Brandon paul.bran...@mnsu.edu
 Subject: Re: [tips] Extinction
 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)  
 tips@acsun.frostburg.edu
 Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 7:57 AM


 But then we must deal with punishment's side effects.
 It's still not optimal.
 The best alternative when available is the reinforcement of  
 alternative (and incompatible where possible) behavior.
 This reallocates reinforcement (which we assume is occurring as a  
 consequence of the behavior we're trying to eliminate) rather than  
 simply removing or competing with it.
 Makes better ecological sense.

 On Jan 5, 2009, at 11:53 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
 With regard to the note on extinction.

 With 121 posts since the last time I logged on, I must admit I  
 didn't read a lot of them. But somehwere in the feeding frenzy  
 thread about M. Sylvester someone mentioned using extinction  
 rather than punishment because it has been shown to be more  
 effective.

 Would it be fair to say that extinction is more effective than  
 punishment because we can't ethically use punishment optimally?  
 That is, immediate and as severe as possible?


Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
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Re: [tips] Lie to Me

2009-01-06 Thread taylor
I wasn't horribly impressed with the youtube promo clip attached to his website 
:(

If you look at his products he's pitching and go to:
http://www.mettonline.com/
where there are some pretty outrageous claims made, to wit:

It’s a scientific fact…
Did you know that people can’t totally conceal their emotions? Or fake what 
they are feeling? Microexpressions give them away. Now you can use the only 
training method scientifically proven to teach you to see what you’ve been 
missing. 

And

Try METT Now!
It only takes about an hour to learn the scientifically proven method that the 
U.S. Government, Fortune 500 companies and medical professionals are already 
using every day. You can recognize the emotions concealed in 
microexpressions.  Click here to demo METT now.

My red alerts are going off like mad! Scientifically PROVEN? There are 
very 
good reasons why traditional lie detector/polygraph devices don't work 
including sociopathy. I can't see how this program will see through that!

So the full program costs $69, for one hour of training, but hey, short on 
time, 
you can buy Mett Lite and only pay $49 or 40 minutes of training!

You can buy all of the pictures he's ever used for researchfor $175. 
Seminars 
to learn to communicate your own emotions better start at only $395. 

Here's a bit more About the Paul Ekman Group:
The Paul Ekman Group combines state-of-the-art behavioral science with real 
world practical experience to provide unique training in the fields of facial 
expression, gesture, nonverbal behavior, emotion and deception. 

State-of-the-art behavioral science?

And finally, the coup-de-grace:
Paul Ekman is developing an online training program that will allow people to 
determine their Emotional Profile -which will assist in improving their 
Emotional 
Balance. Expected in early 2009.

Why does this sound like so much psychobabble to me? I respected this man 
and I am so disappointed to see the direction he has gone in. Sold out. I don't 
know why this bothers me so much. I guess if you have something you can 
sucker people into buying and can figure the going rate that people are willing 
to spend, you should go for it. It's the capitalist way. 

Sadly,
Annette


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Professor of Psychology
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego, CA 92110
619-260-4006
tay...@sandiego.edu

 Original message 
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:05:05 -0800
From: Frantz, Sue sfra...@highline.edu  
Subject: [tips] Lie to Me  
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) 
tips@acsun.frostburg.edu

   For those who get TV's Fox channel...  I've been
   watching the ads for the new show Lie to Me
   beginning January 21st and wondering if it was based
   on Paul Ekman's work.  It is. 
   http://www.paulekman.com/ 



   please, please, please be a good program



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   Highline Community College
   Psychology, CoordinatorDes Moines,
   WA
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   sfra...@highline.edu
   http://flightline.highline.edu/sfrantz/
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   Psychology

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[tips] Intro texts/the dest and worse

2009-01-06 Thread Msylvester
IMHO

The best:  Allen and Santrock/the definitive intro text and cross-cultural 
imports(.Allen is African-American)
  
   Rodney Plotnick

The worse: Lahey
 Myers

My favorite Experimental procedure texts are Claude Bernard (Experimental 
Medicine) and Murray Sidman (Tactics in
 Scientific research)
My favorite text on color perception  is the one edited by Ron Blue,Christopher 
Green,Stephen Black,Mike Pale and Carol De Velvet

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
  no matter how beautiful the strategies,it helps to take a 
look at the results. Winston Churchill



  
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[tips] erratum: : the best not dest

2009-01-06 Thread Msylvester
MS
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