Re: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-31 Thread Allen Esterson
���On 30 August 2009 Stuart McKelvie wrote:
All AE did was to make a reasonable request for a citation
for MS's claim, for how can we debate a claim unless we
know that it has been made?

So I politely repeat Alan's request:

Michael: Who has made the claim about major and minor
theories and approaches (besides yourself in the posting)?


In response to Michael's I have noted a tendency to allocate major 
status to theories emanating in Europe most of them Jewish and minor to 
those emanating outside of Europe, I also asked who is doing the 
allocating.

I presume it is the ubiquitous they (details to be filled in 
according to one's prejudices).

Allen Esterso
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Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org

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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor

michael sylvester
Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:12:13 -0700
Michael, supposing what you have noted is in fact the case,
please tell us who is doing the allocating.
Allen Esterson

Allen: One does need a weatherman to note which way the wind is 
blowing.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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RE: [tips] Determining major and minor

Stuart McKelvie
Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:30:05 -0700
Dear Tipsters,

While I heartily approve of MS quoting a Dylan
  line (You don't need a 
weather
man to know which way the wind blows), it is disheartening to see that 
his
pithy comment undercuts our academic debate.

All AE did was to make a reasonable request for a citation for MS's 
claim, for
how can we debate a claim unless we know that it has been made?

So I politely repeat Alan's request:

Michael: Who has made the claim about major and minor theories and 
approaches
(besides yourself in the posting)?

Sincerely,

Stuart

Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: 819 822 9600 x 2402
Department of Psychology, Fax: 819 822 9661
Bishop's University,
2600 rue College,
Sherbrooke,
Québec J1M 201Z7,
Canada.



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Fw: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-31 Thread michael sylvester

AE,SMcK,BW:

I asked the question :How do we determine major and minor psychological 
theories?

Do you have an answer for me?
Answer my question  if you are able.
Thank you.

Michael Sylvester.PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida 



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Re: Fw: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-31 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
Michael,

I have already questioned the premise of your statement and others have asked 
you essentially, Is this your opinion or have you read somewhere that this is 
something that is actually happening.  I think what other are telling you, is 
that until you answer that very simple question. Thank you. 

Bob 

 Original message 
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:45:53 -0400
From: michael sylvester msylves...@copper.net  
Subject: Fw: [tips] Determining major and minor  
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@acsun.frostburg.edu

AE,SMcK,BW:

I asked the question :How do we determine major and minor psychological 
theories?
Do you have an answer for me?
Answer my question  if you are able.
Thank you.

Michael Sylvester.PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida 


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Re: Fw: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-31 Thread michael sylvester
One does not answer a question by posing another question.It is one thing to 
ask what one means by major and minor psychological theories but postulating 
they do not exist is a cognitive cop-out.


Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida


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[tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-30 Thread Allen Esterson

How do we determine major and minor psychological theories?
I have noted a tendency to allocate major status to theories
emanating in Europe most of them Jewish and minor to those
emanating outside of Europe.


Michael, supposing what you have noted is in fact the case, please 
tell us who is doing the allocating.


Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org


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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-30 Thread michael sylvester




Michael, supposing what you have noted is in fact the case, please 
tell us who is doing the allocating.


Allen Esterson


Allen: One does need a weatherman to note which way the wind is blowing.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida


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RE: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-30 Thread Stuart McKelvie
Dear Tipsters,

While I heartily approve of MS quoting a Dylan line (You don't need a weather 
man to know which way the wind blows), it is disheartening to see that his 
pithy comment undercuts our academic debate.

All AE did was to make a reasonable request for a citation for MS's claim, for 
how can we debate a claim unless we know that it has been made?

So I politely repeat Alan's request:

Michael: Who has made the claim about major and minor theories and approaches 
(besides yourself in the posting)?

Sincerely,

Stuart
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[tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-29 Thread michael sylvester
How do we determine major and minor psychological theories? I have noted a 
tendency to allocate major status to theories emanating in Europe most of them 
Jewish and minor to
those emanating outside of Europe.Of course withun each group there are 
hierarchical divisions.Freud is over Adler.American bred functionalism puts 
James and Dewey on a higher status than Angell and Carr.Re behaviorism,Skinner 
is upgraded whereas Watson is downgraded.There are splits among 
gestaltists,humanists,and existentialists.And the Russian dude Vigotsky gets no 
respect in developmental theory.I have noted a preference
to favor theories that emphasize discrete stages  than overlappping and 
interacting 
phases.
Send me something.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida
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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-29 Thread Allen Esterson
���On 29 August 2009 Michael Sylvester wrote:
How do we determine major and minor psychological theories?
I have noted a tendency to allocate major status to theories
emanating in Europe most of them Jewish and minor to those
 emanating outside of Europe.

[…]

Send me something.

Michael: Perhaps for a change you could send *us* something: For 
instance, some statistically-based evidence for your assertion.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
http://www.esterson.org

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michael sylvester
Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:35:18 -0700
How do we determine major and minor psychological theories? I have 
noted
  a
tendency to allocate major status to theories emanating in Europe most 
of them
Jewish and minor to those emanating outside of Europe.Of course withun 
each group there are hierarchical divisions. Freud is over Adler. 
American bred functionalism puts
James and Dewey on a higher status than Angell and Carr. Re 
behaviorism, Skinner
is upgraded whereas Watson is downgraded.There are splits among 
gestaltists, humanists, and existentialists.And the Russian dude 
Vigotsky gets no respect in developmental
theory. I have noted a preference to favor theories that emphasize 
discrete stages  than overlappping and interacting phases.

Send me something.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida


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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-29 Thread michael sylvester




Michael: Perhaps for a change you could send *us* something: For 
instance, some statistically-based evidence for your assertion.


Allen Esterson

If I was going about looking for evidence,I would be brain dead.

Michael


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Re: [tips] Determining major and minor

2009-08-29 Thread Paul Brandon

An interesting conjecture.

On Aug 29, 2009, at 1:49 PM, michael sylvester wrote:


Michael: Perhaps for a change you could send *us* something: For
instance, some statistically-based evidence for your assertion.

Allen Esterson

If I was going about looking for evidence,I would be brain dead.


Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
paul.bran...@mnsu.edu


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