Re: [tips] Dave Myers' text
Thank you, Dap, for saying what we're probably all thinking. I believe my colleagues may have been attempting the extinction techniques we've been not-so-obliquely discussing online. But I see that Michael has already used up his three posts for the day, so I'm happy to concur that Dave's textbook is a terrific one. (Actually, I am using both his Intro and Social textbooks at present.) I'd forgotten about his generous contribution of his royalty proceeds, and I'm glad you pointed that out, as he's not the kind of guy to toot his own horn. I've met him at meetings, and find him as warm and genuine as he comes across in his books. He also is quick to respond to any suggestions or questions. I also found his book, A Quiet World: Living with Hearing Loss to be so informative, but told with humor about things like his wife's occasional exasperation when he wouldn't wear his hearing aid, and other human interest stories. Beth Benoit Granite State College New Hampshire On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Dap Louw wrote: > > > I'm speechless about Michael Sylvester's rating of the Myers text. I may > be wrong but I believe it's the intro text most widely prescribed > internationally, one reason being that it is much less myopic than its > American counterparts. > We use it in South Africa and find it wonderful. One of its strongest > points is that the language is very student-friendly, which a country in a > country like South Africa with 11 official languages, is a very important > prerequisite. > > In a recent email Michael Sylvester wrote something about Dave Myers being > a millionaire. I don't know whether that is the case (if it is, good for > him), but I wonder how many colleagues have read the following on the inner > title page of most (all?) of Dave's books (it's in fine print): > > "All royalties from the sale of this book are assigned to the David and > Carol Myers Foundation, which exists to receive and distribute funds to > other charitable organizations." > > If David Myers is indeed a millionaire, we surely need more millionaires > like him. > > Regards from a sunny (southern hemisphere) South Africa. > > Dap Louw > > > > > > > > > > Dap Louw, Ph.D.(Psych.), Ph.D. (Crim.) > Head: Centre for Psychology and the Law > Professor: Department of Psychology > University of the Free State > P.O. Box 339 > Bloemfontein > 9300 South Africa > Tel: (051+) 401-2444 (work) > (051+) 436-3423 (home) > Fax: (051+) 444-6677 > Email: louwda@ufs.ac.za > Cell: 083-391-8331 > > > > > > _ > > University of the Free State: This message and its contents are subject to > a disclaimer. > Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details. > > Universiteit van die Vrystaat: > Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. > Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring beskikbaar. > _ > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > -- "We will not learn how to live in peace by killing each other's children." - Jimmy Carter "Are our children more precious than theirs?" --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Dave Myers' text
The first problem was giving credibility to MS's views. Best regards, Gary >>> "Dap Louw" 1/7/2009 2:38 pm >>> I'm speechless about Michael Sylvester's rating of the Myers text. I may be wrong but I believe it's the intro text most widely prescribed internationally, one reason being that it is much less myopic than its American counterparts. We use it in South Africa and find it wonderful. One of its strongest points is that the language is very student-friendly, which a country in a country like South Africa with 11 official languages, is a very important prerequisite. In a recent email Michael Sylvester wrote something about Dave Myers being a millionaire. I don't know whether that is the case (if it is, good for him), but I wonder how many colleagues have read the following on the inner title page of most (all?) of Dave's books (it's in fine print): "All royalties from the sale of this book are assigned to the David and Carol Myers Foundation, which exists to receive and distribute funds to other charitable organizations." If David Myers is indeed a millionaire, we surely need more millionaires like him. Regards from a sunny (southern hemisphere) South Africa. Dap Louw Dap Louw, Ph.D.(Psych.), Ph.D. (Crim.) Head: Centre for Psychology and the Law Professor: Department of Psychology University of the Free State P.O. Box 339 Bloemfontein 9300 South Africa Tel: (051+) 401-2444 (work) (051+) 436-3423 (home) Fax: (051+) 444-6677 Email: louwda@ufs.ac.za Cell: 083-391-8331 _ University of the Free State: This message and its contents are subject to a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details. Universiteit van die Vrystaat: Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring beskikbaar. _ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
RE: [tips] Dave Myers' text
Hi all, I just returned from NITOP where David Myers gave a few speeches as he has all over the world. I have known the man for many years. He told me Frank Vatano may be the nicest man in Psychology. That may be so, but there is one other person who is nicer (I think), and that is David himself. He is generous with his time, writings, and encouragement. He is always willing to stop, listen, and talk with others whether he knows you or not! I can't believe anyone would suggest otherwise. His book has changed quite a bit in the past few years, including more cross-cultural material. Jim Jim Matiya Florida Gulf Coast University jmat...@fgcu.edu Contributor, for Karen Huffman's Psychology in Action, Video Guest Lecturettes John Wiley and Sons. High School Psychology and Advanced Psychology Graphic Organizers, Pacing Guides, and Daily Lesson Plans archived at www.Teaching-Point.net Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:57:38 -0500From: bethben...@metrocast.netto: t...@acsun.frostburg.edusubject: Re: [tips] Dave Myers' text Thank you, Dap, for saying what we're probably all thinking. I believe my colleagues may have been attempting the extinction techniques we've been not-so-obliquely discussing online. But I see that Michael has already used up his three posts for the day, so I'm happy to concur that Dave's textbook is a terrific one. (Actually, I am using both his Intro and Social textbooks at present.) I'd forgotten about his generous contribution of his royalty proceeds, and I'm glad you pointed that out, as he's not the kind of guy to toot his own horn. I've met him at meetings, and find him as warm and genuine as he comes across in his books. He also is quick to respond to any suggestions or questions. I also found his book, A Quiet World: Living with Hearing Loss to be so informative, but told with humor about things like his wife's occasional exasperation when he wouldn't wear his hearing aid, and other human interest stories. Beth Benoit Granite State College New Hampshire On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Dap Louw wrote: I'm speechless about Michael Sylvester's rating of the Myers text. I may be wrong but I believe it's the intro text most widely prescribed internationally, one reason being that it is much less myopic than its American counterparts.We use it in South Africa and find it wonderful. One of its strongest points is that the language is very student-friendly, which a country in a country like South Africa with 11 official languages, is a very important prerequisite.In a recent email Michael Sylvester wrote something about Dave Myers being a millionaire. I don't know whether that is the case (if it is, good for him), but I wonder how many colleagues have read the following on the inner title page of most (all?) of Dave's books (it's in fine print):"All royalties from the sale of this book are assigned to the David and Carol Myers Foundation, which exists to receive and distribute funds to other charitable organizations."If David Myers is indeed a millionaire, we surely need more millionaires like him.Regards from a sunny (southern hemisphere) South Africa.Dap LouwDap Louw, Ph.D.(Psych.), Ph.D. (Crim.)Head: Centre for Psychology and the LawProfessor: Department of PsychologyUniversity of the Free StateP.O. Box 339Bloemfontein9300 South AfricaTel: (051+) 401-2444 (work)(051+) 436-3423 (home)Fax: (051+) 444-6677Email: louwda@ufs.ac.zacell: 083-391-8331_University of the Free State: This message and its contents are subject to a disclaimer.Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details.Universiteit van die Vrystaat:Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig.Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring beskikbaar._---To make changes to your subscription contact:Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)-- "We will not learn how to live in peace by killing each other's children." - Jimmy Carter"Are our children more precious than theirs?"---To make changes to your subscription contact:Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
Re: [tips] Dave Myers' text
Myers happens to be a very wealthy man but also provides very significant (like huge) contributions to many charities--especially those involving improving the welfare of women and children. I also must say that you guys are not using the extinction notion well at all! Please, note the decent posts by folks and simply ignore the nonsensical ones. Only serves to reinforce. I mean, come on, this is fairly elementary psychology, is it not? Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu > > > I'm speechless about Michael Sylvester's rating of the Myers text. I may > be wrong but I believe it's the intro text most widely prescribed > internationally, one reason being that it is much less myopic than its > American counterparts. > We use it in South Africa and find it wonderful. One of its strongest > points is that the language is very student-friendly, which a country in a > country like South Africa with 11 official languages, is a very important > prerequisite. > > In a recent email Michael Sylvester wrote something about Dave Myers being > a millionaire. I don't know whether that is the case (if it is, good for > him), but I wonder how many colleagues have read the following on the > inner title page of most (all?) of Dave's books (it's in fine print): > > "All royalties from the sale of this book are assigned to the David and > Carol Myers Foundation, which exists to receive and distribute funds to > other charitable organizations." > > If David Myers is indeed a millionaire, we surely need more millionaires > like him. > > Regards from a sunny (southern hemisphere) South Africa. > > Dap Louw > > > > > > > > > > Dap Louw, Ph.D.(Psych.), Ph.D. (Crim.) > Head: Centre for Psychology and the Law > Professor: Department of Psychology > University of the Free State > P.O. Box 339 > Bloemfontein > 9300 South Africa > Tel: (051+) 401-2444 (work) > (051+) 436-3423 (home) > Fax: (051+) 444-6677 > Email: louwda@ufs.ac.za > Cell: 083-391-8331 > > > > > > _ > > University of the Free State: This message and its contents are subject to > a disclaimer. > Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details. > > Universiteit van die Vrystaat: > Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. > Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring beskikbaar. > _ > > --- > To make changes to your subscription contact: > > Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) > > --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
RE: [tips] Dave Myers' text
Open Request to Michael Sylvester on Behalf of Tipsters. In view of the fact that you listed David Myers's introductory text as one of the worst, In view of the fact that I expressed surprise at this judgment, particularly because the book more cross-cultural than most introductory textbooks, In view of the fact that a variety of people have defended the book in general and agreed that it is strong on cross-cultural issues Will you please answer my earlier question?: "Michael, please tell us why you dislike Myers's text?" Sincerely, Stuart McKelvie ___ Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., Phone: (819)822-9600, Extension 2402 Department of Psychology, Fax: (819)822-9661 Bishop's University, 2600 College Street, Sherbrooke, Québec J1M 1Z7, Canada. E-mail: smcke...@ubishops.ca Bishop's University Psychology Department Web Page: http://www.ubishops.ca/ccc/div/soc/psy ___ -Original Message- From: Dap Louw [mailto:louwda@ufs.ac.za] Sent: January 7, 2009 2:39 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Dave Myers' text I'm speechless about Michael Sylvester's rating of the Myers text. I may be wrong but I believe it's the intro text most widely prescribed internationally, one reason being that it is much less myopic than its American counterparts. We use it in South Africa and find it wonderful. One of its strongest points is that the language is very student-friendly, which a country in a country like South Africa with 11 official languages, is a very important prerequisite. In a recent email Michael Sylvester wrote something about Dave Myers being a millionaire. I don't know whether that is the case (if it is, good for him), but I wonder how many colleagues have read the following on the inner title page of most (all?) of Dave's books (it's in fine print): "All royalties from the sale of this book are assigned to the David and Carol Myers Foundation, which exists to receive and distribute funds to other charitable organizations." If David Myers is indeed a millionaire, we surely need more millionaires like him. Regards from a sunny (southern hemisphere) South Africa. Dap Louw Dap Louw, Ph.D.(Psych.), Ph.D. (Crim.) Head: Centre for Psychology and the Law Professor: Department of Psychology University of the Free State P.O. Box 339 Bloemfontein 9300 South Africa Tel: (051+) 401-2444 (work) (051+) 436-3423 (home) Fax: (051+) 444-6677 Email: louwda@ufs.ac.za Cell: 083-391-8331 _ University of the Free State: This message and its contents are subject to a disclaimer. Please refer to http://www.ufs.ac.za/disclaimer for full details. Universiteit van die Vrystaat: Hierdie boodskap en sy inhoud is aan 'n vrywaringsklousule onderhewig. Volledige besonderhede is by http://www.ufs.ac.za/vrywaring beskikbaar. _ --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
RE: [tips] Dave Myers' text
Jim Matiya wrote: > > Hi all, > I just returned from NITOP where David Myers gave a > few speeches as he has all over the world. > I have known the man for many years. > He told me Frank Vatano may be the nicest man in > Psychology. I agree with Jim in regard to what I know of Dave Myers. He has no reason to remember me, but I have met him, talked with him, and heard him speak. I knew of the foundation that he and his wife created. I do also have to agree with David in his assessment of Frank Vatano. I had the great experience of "rooming" with him at the first AP Reading that I participated in (1993), and he is a very nice man. I'm glad that I had the good fortune to get to know him. I often wonder how things are going in Colorado. Bob Wildblood, PhD, HSPP Lecturer in Psychology Indiana University Kokomo Kokomo, IN 46904-9003 rwild...@iuk.edu, drb...@erols.com "It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others." (Anonymous) We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible. - Barack Obama We have in fact, two kinds of morality, side by side: one which we preach, but do not practice, and another which we practice, but seldom preach. -Bertrand Russell, philosopher, mathematician, author, Nobel laureate (1872-1970) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
RE: [tips] Dave Myers' text
I concur with Bob's observations about Dave Myers and Frank Vattano and can only add that Frank is a fine jazz pianist as well. D >>> "Dr. Bob Wildblood" 01/07/09 9:47 PM >>> Jim Matiya wrote: > > Hi all, > I just returned from NITOP where David Myers gave a > few speeches as he has all over the world. > I have known the man for many years. > He told me Frank Vatano may be the nicest man in > Psychology. I agree with Jim in regard to what I know of Dave Myers. He has no reason to remember me, but I have met him, talked with him, and heard him speak. I knew of the foundation that he and his wife created. I do also have to agree with David in his assessment of Frank Vatano. I had the great experience of "rooming" with him at the first AP Reading that I participated in (1993), and he is a very nice man. I'm glad that I had the good fortune to get to know him. I often wonder how things are going in Colorado. Bob Wildblood, PhD, HSPP Lecturer in Psychology Indiana University Kokomo Kokomo, IN 46904-9003 rwild...@iuk.edu, drb...@erols.com "It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others." (Anonymous) We have an obligation and a responsibility to be investing in our students and our schools. We must make sure that people who have the grades, the desire and the will, but not the money, can still get the best education possible. - Barack Obama We have in fact, two kinds of morality, side by side: one which we preach, but do not practice, and another which we practice, but seldom preach. -Bertrand Russell, philosopher, mathematician, author, Nobel laureate (1872-1970) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu) --- To make changes to your subscription contact: Bill Southerly (bsouthe...@frostburg.edu)
