Re: various questions

2000-10-04 Thread Annette Taylor

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Nina Tarner wrote:

> 
> Last week we were discussing various disorders and the book defines
> schizophrenia as a "...serious mental disorder that lasts for about six
> months and includes..."  A student asked why the disorder only lasts for
> six months and what happens after that period of time?

My best guess is that it lasts at least 6 months before being considered
the "chronic" form of the disorder and if less than 6 months is considered
the "acute" form. We used to teach about these as type I and type II
(acute/chronic respectively) and that the acute had a better prognosis.
Any clinicians out there with direct experience who can clarify would
be appreciated!
annettte


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RE: Cross-Cultural Psy:/ preconditions

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Sylvester



In response to RicK:


I find some of your analogies way out of line.
It is possible that someone who has lived a certain type
of experience and goes on to get a Ph.D can be a powerful force
in understanding and communicating that experience.

Btw,is there such a thing as a Scientific personality?

Michael Sylvester,Ph.D
Daytona Beach,Florida
   "Where have all the emotions gone?"




Re: Cross-Cultural Psy:/ preconditions

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Sylvester




On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, John W. Kulig wrote:

> 
> . Call me a pessimist, but I have difficulty believing
one can escape one's
> cultural world-view this easily. It's easy accepting other cultures that are 
>similiar to ours.
> We also "accept" others that are quaint - so long as they pose no threat to ours. 
>But how does
> one embrace the polygamy of certain Middle Eastern cultures? The cultures that 
>prevent women
> from voting? The cultures that do not believe in secular government? The culture 
>that puts an
> assination contract on Rushdie? Cultural diversity - in the trenches - is a tough 
>kernel to
> digest.
> 
 Australia ranks high on the male chauvinistic scale.
 The CIA tried to assassinate Castro and got rid of Salvador
 Allende.
 How about the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition?
 With all its emphasis on Technological advancement,the U.S
 has the highest rate of virtually all crimes:pedophilia,rape,
 murders and so on.
 Democratic appraches may not be the best fit.
 You are committing the fallacy of "One size fits all."

> 

Michael Sylvester
Daytona Beach,Florida




Re: various questions

2000-10-04 Thread Noel Kinder

Nina,

As a student in a clinical psychology program, I am very aware of the major clinical 
diagnoses.  In response to your student's question regarding schizophrenia, the 
textbook you are using appears to be wrong.  

According to readings I have done and the DSM-IV, we know that Schizophrenia rarely 
goes into remission.  Rather it is a mental disorder that an individual will have for 
the duration of their lifetime.  

According to the DSM-IV (1994),
   "By definition, Schizophrenia differs from Schizophreniform Disorder on the basis 
of duration.  Schizophrenia involves the presence of symptoms (including prodromal or 
residual symptoms) for at least 6 months  [emphasis added], whereas the total duration 
of symptoms in Schizophreniform Disorder must be at least  1  month but less than 6 
months [emphasis added]" (p. 284).

I hope that this helps clear up confusion!

Noel Kinder

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>>> Nina Tarner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10/03/00 11:42AM >>>

A student asked me what the difference is between schemas and stereotypes?

Last week we were discussing various disorders and the book defines
schizophrenia as a "...serious mental disorder that lasts for about six
months and includes..."  A student asked why the disorder only lasts for
six months and what happens after that period of time?

Thanks,
Nina

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RE: neurotransmitters and food student question

2000-10-04 Thread Dennis Goff

Kitty,

I can tell you something about three of the transmitters in your list.
Tyrosine is the essential amino acid for dopamine and norepinephrine. This
amino acid is available in many sources of protein. Tryptophan is the
essential amino acid for serotonin and it is available from dairy products,
bananas, and corn among others. 

The story is not as simple as ingest these foods and increase the levels of
these transmitters. The amount of transmitter produced in each cell is
limited by the availability of these essential building blocks and other
enzymes. More importantly, the amount of the essential amino acid that cross
the blood brain barrier is determined by the amount that is present in the
blood stream and other nutritional factors. For example, I remember that the
amount of tryptophan that crosses is in part dependent on the carbohydrate
load in the blood stream at the time. 

I hope this is helpful.

Dennis

Dennis M. Goff 
Dept. of Psychology
Randolph-Macon Woman's College
Lynchburg, VA 24503


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Might anyone know which foods affect which neurotransmitters, esp. the 
"popular" neurotransmitters, ie, serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine, 
endorphins, norepinephrine?  I vaguely remember dairy and acetylcholine 
going together.  A student stumped me on this one and a search on my part 
has turned up nothing remarkable.

peace,
K

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RE: neurotransmitters and food student question

2000-10-04 Thread Kirsten Rewey

>= Original Message From "K Jung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>Might anyone know which foods affect which neurotransmitters, esp. the
>"popular" neurotransmitters, ie, serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine,
>endorphins, norepinephrine?

TIPsters -

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that L-tryptophan (a component of milk 
and turkey) is a precursor to serotonin.  Large doses of L-tryptophan (e.g., 
warm milk at bedtime, turkey dinner) have been linked to onset of sleep.

Kirsten

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Re: The value of final exams?

2000-10-04 Thread Paul Brandon

At 1:56 PM -0500 10/3/00, Hatcher, Joe wrote:
>Hi Sue and Tipsters,
>   I have seen a number of testing plans that allow students under some
>conditions to not take a final exam on the course.  I, on the other hand,
>consider the final exam to be the most important one in the course, as it
>gives an opportunity to summarize (and often relearn) the main points of the
>semester one more time before the students exit the class.  So I would never
>design a class to leave out the final.
>   Obviously, there are different opinions on this; I'd like to hear
>what others think.

Personally, I've always thought that final exams are a good test of short
term memory ;-)

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Re: various questions

2000-10-04 Thread Paul Brandon

At 10:11 AM -0400 10/4/00, Noel Kinder wrote:
>According to readings I have done and the DSM-IV, we know that
>Schizophrenia rarely goes into remission.  Rather it is a mental disorder
>that an individual will have for the duration of their lifetime.

These two statements are not in conflict.

remission
Medicine: a. Abatement or subsiding of the symptoms of a disease. b. The
period during which the symptoms of a disease abate or subside.

Remission does not imply cure or disappearance.

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Re: various questions

2000-10-04 Thread Matthew Raney


> A student asked me what the difference is between schemas and stereotypes?

The way I explained it to my students is as follows:

A schema is a mental categorization of information and often helps us
screen relevant info for our purpose out of all potential info/input
(e.g., an architect looking at a house may particularly attend to both
aesthetic and structural components of the house, a burglar would be
likely to ignore both (particularly the aesthetic) and focus, instead, on
security aspects (locks, security systems, light, etc.)).

Stereotypes would be one form of a social schema.  Social schemas often
help us categorize people and/or attend to important
information.  (Example of the former:  indications that someone is shy
vs. outgoing; example of the latter: attending to intelligence, class
attendance, and comprehension of abstract material when looking for a
study partner (the "study buddy" schema) vs. attending to spontaneity,
energy, extroversion, humor and perhaps creativity for a friend to have
fun with (perhaps, instead, the "drinking buddy" schema)).

Stereotypes could be conceptualized as a form of a social schema used to
easily categorize people and provide default information.  In some
contexts, they may be true (expecting athletes to be strong/healthy,
professors to be intelligent, salesman to be gregarious, etc.), though you
can mistakenly assume too much about a person dependent upon their
category.  I think the true sensitivity and controversy occurs when people
use stereotypes in a negative way (e.g., assuming African-Americans are
less intelligent, Asian Americans are not socially skilled, any member of
a fraternity is an alcoholic, etc.).  I think most people think of these
negative situations when considering the idea of "stereotypes," but I
could also see how they could be quite useful mental shortcuts in other
situations (e.g., assuming that, since a person is a graduate student,
they are likely sleep-deprived and have excessive amounts of work :-) ).

> Last week we were discussing various disorders and the book defines
> schizophrenia as a "...serious mental disorder that lasts for about six
> months and includes..."  A student asked why the disorder only lasts for
> six months and what happens after that period of time?

The symptoms for schizophrenia must exist for six months before the actual
diagnosis can be given.  Similar symptoms lasting from 1 to 6 months
constitute a diagnosis of Schizophreniform Disorder, from 1 day to 1 month
constitute a diagnosis of Brief Psychotic Disorder (there are other
differences between these diagnoses than just duration, however, including
much less social/occupation impairment, if any).

In the United States, in my understanding, Schizophrenia is typically a
chronic condition (one that can be treated, but not cured).  In other
parts of the world, however (particularly Asia), it more often dissipates
with time.  Whether this is due to some difference in the diagnosis and
interpretation of symptoms, cultural differences in views about psychotic
experiences (e.g., it's much more socially acceptable in some cultures as
it denotes a link to spirits, and can therefore be beneficial at times),
some actual genetic/biological differences in how individuals in the
States and Europe vs. other parts of the world experience the disorder
remains a bit unclear to me, though.

Hope this helps.  Please feel free to let me know if you have further
questions, as I'm actually working in a practicum with an expert in
Schizophrenia at this time (David Penn).

TAke Care,
Matt




Roommate test

2000-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Nagelbush

Does anyone know of an instrument that is used to measure the compatibility 
of roommates.  A masters student is looking for such a measure and I have 
been able to find nothing.

Thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: The value of final exams?

2000-10-04 Thread Annette Taylor

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Paul Brandon wrote:
> 
> Personally, I've always thought that final exams are a good test of short
> term memory ;-)

Now I have always thought the opposite, especially for a cumulative final
exam--the material was once studied well enough to be tested over and
then at some later time restudied well enough to be tested over and 
_should_ be available for a longer term.

If the final is just one of several midterms where once it is studied
it is never gone back to, then I agree, it is a good test of relatively
short LTM--all of this is really quite mucky even to memory researchers,
i believe.

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RE: Roommate test

2000-10-04 Thread Janice Gearan

How about the Myers-Briggs? This has been used in industry to determine the
compatibility of workers.

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Does anyone know of an instrument that is used to measure the compatibility 
of roommates.  A masters student is looking for such a measure and I have 
been able to find nothing.

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RE: neurotransmitters and food student question

2000-10-04 Thread Janice Gearan

When discussing neurotransmitters, I usually mention these:

acetylcholine - foods high in choline (enhance memory), esp. fish  meat,
eggs

serotonin - warm milk, turkey, foods high in tryptophan

I too would be interested in additional information on this subject.

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Might anyone know which foods affect which neurotransmitters, esp. the 
"popular" neurotransmitters, ie, serotonin, dopamine, acetylcholine, 
endorphins, norepinephrine?  I vaguely remember dairy and acetylcholine 
going together.  A student stumped me on this one and a search on my part 
has turned up nothing remarkable.

peace,
K

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Millennium Schizophrenic symptoms

2000-10-04 Thread Michael Sylvester

Apparently,there i relationship between the symptoms of
schizophrenia
and the zeigeistical inventions and gizmos of that period.
For example,when radio was the only media,some schizophrenics heard voices
from the radio.And similarly,they heard voices from the TV and the 
microwave and some expressed paranoia about those inventions.
I am just curious as to the changing symptoms and correlational symptoms
with this high tech and millennium interfaces.

Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach,Florida









Re: The value of final exams?

2000-10-04 Thread Paul Brandon

At 10:20 AM -0700 10/4/00, Annette Taylor wrote:
>On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Paul Brandon wrote:
>>
>> Personally, I've always thought that final exams are a good test of short
>> term memory ;-)
>
>Now I have always thought the opposite, especially for a cumulative final
>exam--the material was once studied well enough to be tested over and
>then at some later time restudied well enough to be tested over and
>_should_ be available for a longer term.
>
>If the final is just one of several midterms where once it is studied
>it is never gone back to, then I agree, it is a good test of relatively
>short LTM--all of this is really quite mucky even to memory researchers,
>i believe.

Empirically, how much evidence do you see of transfer from earlier related
courses?
Particularly, do you see much transfer from Intro to more advanced courses?
The question is testable!

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Re: "Significant" is not "reliable"

2000-10-04 Thread David

On 28 Sep 2000, Karl L. Wuensch went:

> Furthermore, given typical sample sizes, and typical effect sizes,
> when we do find an effect to be significant, it is largely a matter
> of good luck, of getting a sample in which the apparent size of the
> effect is larger than it is in the population.  With a sample more
> representative of the population the effect would not be
> statistically significant.

I've been rolling this around in my head for days.  Karl, it seems to
me you're positing a situation where: 1) the null hypothesis is true,
and 2) through some fluke (or "good luck"), we've studied a sample in
which the null hypothesis seems false.  You seem to be saying that
this happens a _lot_.

But when we do a test of statistical significance, we're making the
pessimistic assumption that the null hypothesis is true, and then
we're estimating the likelihood of exactly the sort of fluke you
describe.  At the usual alpha level, such a fluke should occur with no
more than 5% of all true null hypotheses we test.

Someone will probably argue that this is complicated by publication
bias or by the capitalization on chance that occurs with multiple
tests of significance, but I don't think those are relevant here.  I'm
presuming that we're talking about any one study (published or not)
and one test of statistical significance.  So what am I missing?
Why is it "LARGELY a matter of good luck" rather than less than a 5%
probability of good luck?

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Re: The value of final exams?

2000-10-04 Thread G. Marc Turner

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Paul Brandon wrote:
>> Personally, I've always thought that final exams are a good test of short
>> term memory ;-)

And at 10:20 AM 10/4/00 -0700, Annette Taylor wrote:
>Now I have always thought the opposite, especially for a cumulative final
>exam--the material was once studied well enough to be tested over and
>then at some later time restudied well enough to be tested over and 
>_should_ be available for a longer term.

In theory I would agree with Annette. The material _should_ be available
for a longer term. But based on experience I have to go with Paul. Of
course, I still give the comprehensive final...

I'm wondering if there have been any studies that have looked at (or simply
asked) whether students study with short-term or long-term retention in mind. 

What appears to be happening here is that students study enough to get the
material into memory long enough for the test, then they forget it. The
only difference between a test during the semester and a comprehensive
final is the amount of material they have to study for the next day. (Also,
they pick up the material for the final faster than for the regular tests
because of prior exposure.)

It seems to me that the tests don't require long-term retention of the
material, and as a result most of what students appear to learn in one
course is frequently forgotten by the next semester... if tests are the
only measure of knowledge gained. I feel that projects and hands-on
activities often lead to better retention long-term than simply relying on
tests for this reason.

I'm sure that repeated exposure is also an issue... the more times a
student has to be exposed to material, the more likely they are to remember
it... hmmm, perhaps a new testing strategy... each test is cummulative
throughout the semester. So, if you give 4 tests, some material on the 4th
exam has already been covered on 3 other exams... but it could give the
impression that some material is more important...

Okay, I just got finished teaching about selecting subjects for studies to
a rather unresponsive group so I'm rambling... though I'm not sure if the
two are really related...

- Marc

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Re: The value of final exams?

2000-10-04 Thread jim clark

Hi

On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Paul Brandon wrote:
> Empirically, how much evidence do you see of transfer from earlier related
> courses?
> Particularly, do you see much transfer from Intro to more advanced courses?
> The question is testable!

The problem would be the lack of a comparison group, unless we
start admitting students into upper level courses without
Introductory Psych.  It is difficult to draw comparisons from
what might seem like minimal learning/retention/generalization in
enrolled students.

Best wishes
Jim


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Re: Millennium Schizophrenic symptoms

2000-10-04 Thread Bill McCown, Ph.D.

No kidding, I did see and adolescent schizophrenic who believed that
Pokemons were part of a conspiracy of some sort. While I think that is true,
I think we were on different wave lengths about that one.

I also saw, and I am serious, a paranoid schizophrenic woman during the 70s
who believed that smiling faces (you know, the kind that Wal Mart has
recently revived) were a signal to her.

While none of these  are quite what you mean, Michael, they do capture some
of the flavor of cultural factors relevant to psychosis.




METACOGNITION

2000-10-04 Thread Jennie Jones




Should metacognition be taught in high schools? Any thoughts 
appreciated.


SCHOOL REFUSAL

2000-10-04 Thread Jennie Jones




I am in the process of devising a Masters thesis 
topic on school refusal. Can anyone throw some ideas my way? 
Jennie.


RE: various questions

2000-10-04 Thread HART_CHRISTIAN

Annette,

To paraphrase the king of all sidekicks, Ed McMahon, to Johnny, "You are
correct, madam!" 

By definition, in the current DSM-IV and since at least the DSM-III-R,
symptoms meeting criteria for up to 6 months earn a diagnosis of
Schizophreniform Disorder.  Over the six, and you have Schizophrenia for
precisely the reason you mention, namely the distinction between acute and
process (chronic) forms of the disorder.  And the expectation of different
prognoses still holds as well. 

Which brings to mind the French aphorism, 'Plus ça change, plus c'est le
même chose.'

"The more things change, the more they remain the same."

Christian Hart, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Psychology
Department of Behavioral Studies
Santa Monica College

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To: Nina Tarner
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Subject: Re: various questions


On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Nina Tarner wrote:

> 
> Last week we were discussing various disorders and the book defines
> schizophrenia as a "...serious mental disorder that lasts for about six
> months and includes..."  A student asked why the disorder only lasts for
> six months and what happens after that period of time?

My best guess is that it lasts at least 6 months before being considered
the "chronic" form of the disorder and if less than 6 months is considered
the "acute" form. We used to teach about these as type I and type II
(acute/chronic respectively) and that the acute had a better prognosis.
Any clinicians out there with direct experience who can clarify would
be appreciated!
annettte


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RE: various questions

2000-10-04 Thread Paul C. Smith

HART_CHRISTIAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Which brings to mind the French aphorism, 'Plus ça change,
> plus c'est le même chose.'

"...la [not le] meme chose", right?

Paul "Marsaille la Janvier prochaine" Smith
Alverno College
Milwaukee




Re: "Significant" is not "reliable"

2000-10-04 Thread Karl L. Wuensch

Well, David, I would argue that a point null hypothesis involving continous
variables is NEVER absolutely true -- but, at the same time, I would argue
that when it is nearly true, given typical power in behavioral research, we
get "significant" results most often when, by luck, we get a sample in which
the apparent effect is larger than it really is in the population.  For a
better understanding of this opinion, please read the materials cited in the
readings I recommend to my students when they are reading Chapter 8 of David
Howell's marvelous text book, most especially Frank Schmidt's recent
divisional address to the APA, which is written in relatively simple
language, something most statisticians cannot do.  The readings are listed
at:  http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/read30.htm

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Re: Millennium Schizophrenic symptoms

2000-10-04 Thread G. Marc Turner

At 03:21 PM 10/4/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>I am just curious as to the changing symptoms and correlational symptoms
>with this high tech and millennium interfaces.

Actually, it seems that the symptoms themselves don't change, only the
expression of those symptoms. In other words, the symptom is the experience
of auditory hallucinations, and that stays the same regardless of where
they perceive the "voices" coming from. The societal/cultural influence
only effects the manifestation of the symptom. This influence can also play
a role in who the originator of the voices is (e.g., aliens, spirits,
demons, the grandmother that passed away causing the student to miss the
exam, etc.) Or so it seems, since I'm speaking outside of my area of
expertise here...

Just my two cents...
- Marc


G. Marc Turner, MEd
Lecturer & Head of Computer Operations
Department of Psychology
Southwest Texas State University
San Marcos, TX  78666
phone: (512)245-2526
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]