RE:[tips] Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression

2015-06-04 Thread Annette Taylor
Which would also speak to the fallacy of the catharsis hypothesis: shouting it 
out does not help. Calming discussing does.

Annette


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Subject: RE: Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression
From: "Pollak, Edward" 
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:34:08 +


I agree, Annette,this is not really new. I remember listening to a paper, 
Perhaps 20 years ago at EPA. The authors used patients in therapy as subjects. 
All were instructed to discuss a recent incident that they found annoying, 
unpleasant, distressing. But 1/2 of the subjects were instructed to speak 
softly & slowly (i.e., calmly) while the other half were instructed to speak 
loudly & rapidly. Subjects were later asked to rate how distressing they found 
that incident. The subjects speaking calmly rated the incident as much less 
distressing & those instructed to speak in an "angry" voice reported that the 
incident had distressed them much more.

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RE:[tips] Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression

2015-06-03 Thread Pollak, Edward
I agree, Annette,this is not really new. I remember listening to a paper, 
Perhaps 20 years ago at EPA. The authors used patients in therapy as subjects. 
All were instructed to discuss a recent incident that they found annoying, 
unpleasant, distressing. But 1/2 of the subjects were instructed to speak 
softly & slowly (i.e., calmly) while the other half were instructed to speak 
loudly & rapidly. Subjects were later asked to rate how distressing they found 
that incident. The subjects speaking calmly rated the incident as much less 
distressing & those instructed to speak in an "angry" voice reported that the 
incident had distressed them much more.





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Professor Emeritus of Psychology
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/
Editor of "Ed's Bluegrass Newsletter" at 
http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/bgnews.htm
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 Subject: RE: Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression
From: Annette Taylor 
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:00:45 +
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This is actually pretty old news. I heard these reports going back several 
years. Granted, this is a meta-analysis that includes studies that go back 
several years, I'd imagine (it was an orally presented paper presentation and I 
assume is not yet in print? Or was rejected for publication?)

You can also read about it here: 
http://www.botoxfordepression.com/research-botox-for-depression/

and here:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/health/Botox-May-Help-Alleviate-Depression-116730639.html
The latter goes back to 2011.

So, if this is so effective why is treatment with botox not far more widespread?

But what struck me in the link provided below is this set of sentences:

For botulinum patients versus placebo patients, the odds ratio for a response 
was 8.3, with a 95% confidence interval from 3.4 to 20.3.
Similarly, the odds ratio for a remission was 4.6, with a 95% confidence 
interval from 1.6 to 13.1.

Now, if I'm a lay person, or even a modestly educated person about 
statistics--I've had the one class required for the major in psych, for 
example, I have no idea what this is telling me. I know the move is towards 
using CIs to report stats but I'd still want to see something more than this as 
a result.

How would a stats expert interpret these two sentences? (Certainly not me!)

I think it's pretty meaningless to a lay person who might think it's very 
important just because it's couched in such scientific sounding language.

Annette

ps: I favor the facial feedback hypothesis ;-)



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RE:[tips] Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression

2015-06-02 Thread Annette Taylor
This is actually pretty old news. I heard these reports going back several 
years. Granted, this is a meta-analysis that includes studies that go back 
several years, I'd imagine (it was an orally presented paper presentation and I 
assume is not yet in print? Or was rejected for publication?)

You can also read about it here: 
http://www.botoxfordepression.com/research-botox-for-depression/

and here:
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/health/Botox-May-Help-Alleviate-Depression-116730639.html
The latter goes back to 2011.

So, if this is so effective why is treatment with botox not far more widespread?

But what struck me in the link provided below is this set of sentences:

For botulinum patients versus placebo patients, the odds ratio for a response 
was 8.3, with a 95% confidence interval from 3.4 to 20.3.
Similarly, the odds ratio for a remission was 4.6, with a 95% confidence 
interval from 1.6 to 13.1.

Now, if I'm a lay person, or even a modestly educated person about 
statistics--I've had the one class required for the major in psych, for 
example, I have no idea what this is telling me. I know the move is towards 
using CIs to report stats but I'd still want to see something more than this as 
a result. 

How would a stats expert interpret these two sentences? (Certainly not me!)

I think it's pretty meaningless to a lay person who might think it's very 
important just because it's couched in such scientific sounding language.

Annette

ps: I favor the facial feedback hypothesis ;-)

Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D.
Professor, Psychological Sciences
University of San Diego
5998 Alcala Park
San Diego, CA 92110-2492
tay...@sandiego.edu


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Holy cow, Batman. Bob Zajonc theory may have more relevance than we knew. And 
by extension, perhaps the James-Lange theory as 
well...

Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/APA/51696
Injections of botulinum toxin A into the forehead worked better than placebo at 
reducing depression symptoms, according to a systematic review and an analysis 
of three randomized trials. The studies were small and more research is needed 
to confirm the findings, but the treatment might be useful in some refractory 
disease cases, said Julio Licinio of the South Australian Health and Medical 
Research Institute, who was not involved in the studies.



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West Chester University of Pennsylvania
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[tips] Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression

2015-06-01 Thread Pollak, Edward
Holy cow, Batman. Bob Zajonc theory may have more relevance than we knew. And 
by extension, perhaps the James-Lange theory as 
well...



Analyses support theory that Botox might alleviate depression

http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/APA/51696
Injections of botulinum toxin A into the forehead worked better than placebo at 
reducing depression symptoms, according to a systematic review and an analysis 
of three randomized trials. The studies were small and more research is needed 
to confirm the findings, but the treatment might be useful in some refractory 
disease cases, said Julio Licinio of the South Australian Health and Medical 
Research Institute, who was not involved in the studies.



Edward I. Pollak, Ph.D.
Professor Emeritus of Psychology
West Chester University of Pennsylvania
Home page: http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/
Editor of "Ed's Bluegrass Newsletter" at 
http://home.comcast.net/~epollak/bgnews.htm
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