Re: [tips] Houdini horse
A perfect opportunity for in-class (or online) debate/discussion. I would assume that most students if shown the video would respond with: Smart horse!. So: is this an example of animal intelligence or as Joan suggests self-shaping? Cognition vs. Behaviorism. Personally, the video reminded me of Thorndike's cats. Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt On Feb 15, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu wrote: Thanks Gary. An amusing story as well as a funny and impressive video showing a mare who has figured out how to open an amazing variety of locks. It was shaping but self-shaping of sorts. Apparently she enjoyed playing with things with her mouth from the get-go and soon progressed to fooling around with locks. Imagine that eureka moment when her 'fooling around with a lock' succeeded in opening it! Whether by intent or fortuitous, as Pasteur once said, Chance favors the prepared mind! Have a great Presidents' Day you all. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Okay, not exactly Clever Hans, but still cleverly shaped behavior. I am not sure what kind of locks they are talking about here either. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/02/houdini_horse_from_midland_is.html#incart_river G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=23754 or send a blank email to leave-23754-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958f69n=Tl=tipso=23760 or send a blank email to leave-23760-13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=23789 or send a blank email to leave-23789-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Houdini horse
I used to have a yellow lab who could do those things. He first learned to push open the sliding door. Then I watched him as he pushed up the lock, so I bought a gate hook for it. He learned to open that with his nose, push up the lock, and then open the slider. I finally got a gate hook with a spring latch and he couldn't quite manipulate that. He loved to get out and run around the neighborhood. Yes, he was a smart dog, but I think it was self-shaping. That was before the wonders of Youtube, though. Carol On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.comwrote: A perfect opportunity for in-class (or online) debate/discussion. I would assume that most students if shown the video would respond with: Smart horse!. So: is this an example of animal intelligence or as Joan suggests self-shaping? Cognition vs. Behaviorism. Personally, the video reminded me of Thorndike's cats. Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt On Feb 15, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu wrote: Thanks Gary. An amusing story as well as a funny and impressive video showing a mare who has figured out how to open an amazing variety of locks. It was shaping but self-shaping of sorts. Apparently she enjoyed playing with things with her mouth from the get-go and soon progressed to fooling around with locks. Imagine that eureka moment when her 'fooling around with a lock' succeeded in opening it! Whether by intent or fortuitous, as Pasteur once said, Chance favors the prepared mind! Have a great Presidents' Day you all. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Okay, not exactly Clever Hans, but still cleverly shaped behavior. I am not sure what kind of locks they are talking about here either. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/02/houdini_horse_from_midland_is.html#incart_river G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=23754 or send a blank email to leave-23754-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com . To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958f69n=Tl=tipso=23760 or send a blank email to leave-23760-13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: devoldercar...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623341n=Tl=tipso=23789 or send a blank email to leave-23789-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=23792 or send a blank email to leave-23792-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Houdini horse
Couldn't it be both, as per Edison's famous quote that his discoveries involved 99% perspiration and 1% inspiration. She certainly appears very intelligent on the video. But don't we need to know more about the stages of learning involved before we can determine if the lock-picking behavior was a result of step-by-step learning or a result of a sudden flash of insight? Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu A perfect opportunity for in-class (or online) debate/discussion. I would assume that most students if shown the video would respond with: Smart horse!. So: is this an example of animal intelligence or as Joan suggests self-shaping? Cognition vs. Behaviorism. Personally, the video reminded me of Thorndike's cats. Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: mbritt On Feb 15, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Joan Warmbold jwarm...@oakton.edu wrote: Thanks Gary. An amusing story as well as a funny and impressive video showing a mare who has figured out how to open an amazing variety of locks. It was shaping but self-shaping of sorts. Apparently she enjoyed playing with things with her mouth from the get-go and soon progressed to fooling around with locks. Imagine that eureka moment when her 'fooling around with a lock' succeeded in opening it! Whether by intent or fortuitous, as Pasteur once said, Chance favors the prepared mind! Have a great Presidents' Day you all. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Okay, not exactly Clever Hans, but still cleverly shaped behavior. I am not sure what kind of locks they are talking about here either. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/02/houdini_horse_from_midland_is.html#incart_river G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=23754 or send a blank email to leave-23754-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958f69n=Tl=tipso=23760 or send a blank email to leave-23760-13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=23789 or send a blank email to leave-23789-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=23807 or send a blank email to leave-23807-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Houdini horse?
Okay, not exactly Clever Hans, but still cleverly shaped behavior. I am not sure what kind of locks they are talking about here either. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/02/houdini_horse_from_midland_is.html#incart_river G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=23754 or send a blank email to leave-23754-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Houdini horse
Thanks Gary. An amusing story as well as a funny and impressive video showing a mare who has figured out how to open an amazing variety of locks. It was shaping but self-shaping of sorts. Apparently she enjoyed playing with things with her mouth from the get-go and soon progressed to fooling around with locks. Imagine that eureka moment when her 'fooling around with a lock' succeeded in opening it! Whether by intent or fortuitous, as Pasteur once said, Chance favors the prepared mind! Have a great Presidents' Day you all. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Okay, not exactly Clever Hans, but still cleverly shaped behavior. I am not sure what kind of locks they are talking about here either. http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2013/02/houdini_horse_from_midland_is.html#incart_river G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D Psychology@SVSU --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=23754 or send a blank email to leave-23754-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=23760 or send a blank email to leave-23760-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
