Re: [tips] How Should the New Papers by Scientists Convicted of Misconduct Be Handled by Journals?

2017-08-22 Thread William Scott
It appears that we see those colleagues who have been found to violate 
scientific standards in the same way that society views sex offenders. Place 
them on a registry and treat them with extraordinary vigilance. We all know 
they are incorrigible.


From: Miguel Roig 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:39:00 AM
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Subject: RE: [tips] How Should the New Papers by Scientists Convicted of 
Misconduct Be Handled by Journals?



Good article, Mike, thanks for posting it. In my view, this would depend on the 
nature and circumstances of the misconduct. One of the most common criticisms 
of how the system in the US deals with such cases is that offenders who have 
falsified or fabricated data often get away with only a slap on the wrist 
(e.g., being banned from applying for grants for x number of years). If fired 
from their institutions, they then can often move to another institution with 
relative ease given that misconduct investigations are typically shrouded in 
anonymity. So, additional layers of oversight on the part of the journals for 
such individuals’ work are, IMO, more than warranted in many cases. One 
question that arises is the length of time that such additional oversight 
should be applied to former offenders; a few years? a life-time?  There are 
those who believe in the power of redemption while others are not so forgiving 
and maintain that those who blatantly violate the scientific community’s trust 
should be banned for life for the privilege of doing science. Again, I supposed 
that which position to take depends on the specifics of each case.

Miguel

From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:07 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: [tips] How Should the New Papers by Scientists Convicted of Misconduct 
Be Handled by Journals?



Is there redemption for scientists who have had papers retracted
due to various forms of scientific misconduct?
Should their subsequent research be banned or should they be
given the same review (possibly with additional checking of
data and images) that other researchers who have not had retractions?
An article on The Scientist website review one case and how
it was handled.  Do you agree?  see:
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50124/title/How-Journals-Treat-Papers-from-Researchers-Who-Committed-Misconduct/&utm_campaign=NEWSLETTER_TS_The-Scientist-Daily_2016&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=55470090&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_SZGo9glbfFU2KNYG2USGNzHI9NZLrkiaxFEUh2JVMBwzeJSOpEJkHDHdWb61jpx--OdozOFIAwMMjRIwHL_qiq-DQZw&_hsmi=55470090

One thing to keep in mind that this case involved basic
research with plants and research that directly involves
humans (e.g., drug trial, testing of surgical procedures, etc.).
Should this make a difference?

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu>





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RE: [tips] How Should the New Papers by Scientists Convicted of Misconduct Be Handled by Journals?

2017-08-22 Thread Miguel Roig
Good article, Mike, thanks for posting it. In my view, this would depend on the 
nature and circumstances of the misconduct. One of the most common criticisms 
of how the system in the US deals with such cases is that offenders who have 
falsified or fabricated data often get away with only a slap on the wrist 
(e.g., being banned from applying for grants for x number of years). If fired 
from their institutions, they then can often move to another institution with 
relative ease given that misconduct investigations are typically shrouded in 
anonymity. So, additional layers of oversight on the part of the journals for 
such individuals' work are, IMO, more than warranted in many cases. One 
question that arises is the length of time that such additional oversight 
should be applied to former offenders; a few years? a life-time?  There are 
those who believe in the power of redemption while others are not so forgiving 
and maintain that those who blatantly violate the scientific community's trust 
should be banned for life for the privilege of doing science. Again, I supposed 
that which position to take depends on the specifics of each case.

Miguel

From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 9:07 AM
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS)
Cc: Michael Palij
Subject: [tips] How Should the New Papers by Scientists Convicted of Misconduct 
Be Handled by Journals?



Is there redemption for scientists who have had papers retracted
due to various forms of scientific misconduct?
Should their subsequent research be banned or should they be
given the same review (possibly with additional checking of
data and images) that other researchers who have not had retractions?
An article on The Scientist website review one case and how
it was handled.  Do you agree?  see:
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50124/title/How-Journals-Treat-Papers-from-Researchers-Who-Committed-Misconduct/&utm_campaign=NEWSLETTER_TS_The-Scientist-Daily_2016&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=55470090&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_SZGo9glbfFU2KNYG2USGNzHI9NZLrkiaxFEUh2JVMBwzeJSOpEJkHDHdWb61jpx--OdozOFIAwMMjRIwHL_qiq-DQZw&_hsmi=55470090

One thing to keep in mind that this case involved basic
research with plants and research that directly involves
humans (e.g., drug trial, testing of surgical procedures, etc.).
Should this make a difference?

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu<mailto:m...@nyu.edu>





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[tips] How Should the New Papers by Scientists Convicted of Misconduct Be Handled by Journals?

2017-08-21 Thread Mike Palij
Is there redemption for scientists who have had papers retracted 
due to various forms of scientific misconduct?  
Should their subsequent research be banned or should they be 
given the same review (possibly with additional checking of 
data and images) that other researchers who have not had retractions?
An article on The Scientist website review one case and how
it was handled.  Do you agree?  see:
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50124/title/How-Journals-Treat-Papers-from-Researchers-Who-Committed-Misconduct/&utm_campaign=NEWSLETTER_TS_The-Scientist-Daily_2016&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=55470090&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_SZGo9glbfFU2KNYG2USGNzHI9NZLrkiaxFEUh2JVMBwzeJSOpEJkHDHdWb61jpx--OdozOFIAwMMjRIwHL_qiq-DQZw&_hsmi=55470090

One thing to keep in mind that this case involved basic
research with plants and research that directly involves
humans (e.g., drug trial, testing of surgical procedures, etc.).
Should this make a difference?

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu




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