Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
I forgot to add to my previous post that UK students from less well off families receive maintenance grants from the Government: At the same time, the Government has proposed to increase maintenance grants to £3,250 each year from £2,900 for poorer students whose family income fall below £25,000 per year. A partial grant would be offered to students with family income up to £42,000 and there would be higher maintenance grants for students in London. http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/39276 Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374 Allen Esterson Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:02:34 -0800 Mike Palij linked to an amusing spoof article on the upcoming increase of university fees in the UK: >Stunning research results are provided from across the >pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to >ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college > education. For the full details, see: http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/ From the spoof: “It never occurred to be that not having the required amount of cash to cover an increase in fees would leave me in a situation where I couldn’t afford it.” To reiterate a point of information I made in a recent TIPS post, students in the UK do not pay University fees upfront out of their own (or their parents') pocket. They receive a students' loan (at low interest), which will be increased to allow for the increase in fees they will have to face. (No one knows yet by how much the different universities will be increasing their fees. This is left for them to decide.) That's not to say that students from a poorer background may not be put off by the notion of an increase in their future debt burden – though the last time there was an increase in fees there was no diminution in the number of school students applying for university places. This time there may be a different story, but we'll have to wait and see. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6721 or send a blank email to leave-6721-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re:[tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
Mike Palij linked to an amusing spoof article on the upcoming increase of university fees in the UK: >Stunning research results are provided from across the >pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to >ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college > education. For the full details, see: http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/ From the spoof: “It never occurred to be that not having the required amount of cash to cover an increase in fees would leave me in a situation where I couldn’t afford it.” To reiterate a point of information I made in a recent TIPS post, students in the UK do not pay University fees upfront out of their own (or their parents') pocket. They receive a students' loan (at low interest), which will be increased to allow for the increase in fees they will have to face. (No one knows yet by how much the different universities will be increasing their fees. This is left for them to decide.) That's not to say that students from a poorer background may not be put off by the notion of an increase in their future debt burden – though the last time there was an increase in fees there was no diminution in the number of school students applying for university places. This time there may be a different story, but we'll have to wait and see. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org -- From: Mike Palij Subject:I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374 Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:42:45 -0500 Stunning research results are provided from across the pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college education. For the full details, see: http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/ -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. The website also carries articles on science which can be found here: http://newsthump.com/category/science/ Of particular relevant to critical thinking activities, see the last article on chiropracters. P.P.S. For those you haven't had their morning coffee or provigil hit, I am told that Newsthump is something like The Onion but for people of the British persuasion. If you are not of the British persuasion, do not be surprised if you don't get the "attitude" behind the articles. ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6713 or send a blank email to leave-6713-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:04:47 -0800, Stephen Black wrote: >On 23 Nov 2010 at 9:42, Mike Palij wrote: >> Stunning research results are provided > >Due a serendipitous line break in the url which Mike cited, what I >received was an even more shocking claim than the one actually made >by newsthump, namely: > > newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poo > >This is a highly provocative claim, and I have my doubts about it. >Further research is warranted. I think that Prof. Black has a good point here. Even at NYU where some wealthy students attend, I've always had the feeling that most students were richer in poo (particular the bull poo type) than mere money. Even so, use two-tailed tests of significances if relevant -- the perception of excessive student poo may just be due to the availability heuristic. ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6696 or send a blank email to leave-6696-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
On 23 Nov 2010 at 9:42, Mike Palij wrote: > Stunning research results are provided Due a serendipitous line break in the url which Mike cited, what I received was an even more shocking claim than the one actually made by newsthump, namely: newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poo This is a highly provocative claim, and I have my doubts about it. Further research is warranted. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6694 or send a blank email to leave-6694-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
Stunning research results are provided from across the pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college education. For the full details, see: http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/ -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu P.S. The website also carries articles on science which can be found here: http://newsthump.com/category/science/ Of particular relevant to critical thinking activities, see the last article on chiropracters. P.P.S. For those you haven't had their morning coffee or provigil hit, I am told that Newsthump is something like The Onion but for people of the British persuasion. If you are not of the British persuasion, do not be surprised if you don't get the "attitude" behind the articles. ;-) --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6693 or send a blank email to leave-6693-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu