Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374

2010-11-24 Thread Allen Esterson
I forgot to add to my previous post that UK students from less well off 
families receive maintenance grants from the Government:

At the same time, the Government has proposed to increase maintenance 
grants to £3,250 each year from £2,900 for poorer students whose family 
income fall below £25,000 per year.

A partial grant would be offered to students with family income up to 
£42,000 and there would be higher maintenance grants for students in 
London.

http://www.egovmonitor.com/node/39276

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
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Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374

Allen Esterson
Wed, 24 Nov 2010 03:02:34 -0800

Mike Palij linked to an amusing spoof article on the upcoming increase
of university fees in the UK:
>Stunning research results are provided from across the
>pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to
>ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college
> education.  For the full details, see:
http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/

 From the spoof: “It never occurred to be that not having the required
amount of cash to cover an increase in fees would leave me in a
situation where I couldn’t afford it.”

To reiterate a point of information I made in a recent TIPS post,
students in the UK do not pay University fees upfront out of their own
(or their parents') pocket. They receive a students' loan (at low
interest), which will be increased to allow for the increase in fees
they will have to face. (No one knows yet by how much the different
universities will be increasing their fees. This is left for them to
decide.)

That's not to say that students from a poorer background may not be put
off by the notion of an increase in their future debt burden – though
the last time there was an increase in fees there was no diminution in
the number of school students applying for university places. This time
there may be a different story, but we'll have to wait and see.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
allenester...@compuserve.com
http://www.esterson.org



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Re:[tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374

2010-11-24 Thread Allen Esterson
Mike Palij linked to an amusing spoof article on the upcoming increase 
of university fees in the UK:
>Stunning research results are provided from across the
>pond which should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to
>ponder the effect of cuts to education, especially college
> education.  For the full details, see:
http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/

 From the spoof: “It never occurred to be that not having the required 
amount of cash to cover an increase in fees would leave me in a 
situation where I couldn’t afford it.”

To reiterate a point of information I made in a recent TIPS post, 
students in the UK do not pay University fees upfront out of their own 
(or their parents') pocket. They receive a students' loan (at low 
interest), which will be increased to allow for the increase in fees 
they will have to face. (No one knows yet by how much the different 
universities will be increasing their fees. This is left for them to 
decide.)

That's not to say that students from a poorer background may not be put 
off by the notion of an increase in their future debt burden – though 
the last time there was an increase in fees there was no diminution in 
the number of school students applying for university places. This time 
there may be a different story, but we'll have to wait and see.

Allen Esterson
Former lecturer, Science Department
Southwark College, London
allenester...@compuserve.com
http://www.esterson.org

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From:   Mike Palij 
Subject:I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374
Date:   Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:42:45 -0500
Stunning research results are provided from across the pond which
should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to ponder the effect of
cuts to education, especially college education.  For the full details,
see:
http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

P.S.  The website also carries articles on science which can be found
here:
http://newsthump.com/category/science/
Of particular relevant to critical thinking activities, see the last 
article
on chiropracters.

P.P.S.  For those you haven't had their morning coffee or provigil hit,
I am told that Newsthump is something like The Onion but for people of
the British persuasion. If you are not of the British persuasion, do not
be surprised if you don't get the "attitude" behind the articles. ;-)




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Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Palij
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:04:47 -0800, Stephen Black wrote:
>On 23 Nov 2010 at 9:42, Mike Palij wrote:
>> Stunning research results are provided 
>
>Due a serendipitous line break in the url which Mike cited, what I 
>received was an even more shocking claim than the one actually made 
>by newsthump, namely:
>
> newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poo 
>
>This is a highly provocative claim, and I have my doubts about it. 
>Further research is warranted.

I think that Prof. Black has a good point here.  Even at NYU where
some wealthy students attend, I've always had the feeling that most
students were richer in poo (particular the bull poo type) than mere
money.

Even so, use two-tailed tests of significances if relevant -- the perception
of excessive student poo may just be due to the availability heuristic.

;-)

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu


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Re: [tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374

2010-11-23 Thread sblack
On 23 Nov 2010 at 9:42, Mike Palij wrote:

> Stunning research results are provided 

Due a serendipitous line break in the url which Mike cited, what I 
received was an even more shocking claim than the one actually made 
by newsthump, namely:

newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poo

This is a highly provocative claim, and I have my doubts about it. 
Further research is warranted.

Stephen


Stephen L. Black, Ph.D.  
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus   
Bishop's University
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada   
e-mail:  sblack at ubishops.ca
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[tips] I Am Shocked! SHOCKED!!! Part 374

2010-11-23 Thread Mike Palij
Stunning research results are provided from across the pond which
should cause U.S. and Canadian instructors to ponder the effect of
cuts to education, especially college education.  For the full details,
see:
http://newsthump.com/2010/09/22/rich-students-have-more-money-than-poor-students-finds-survey/

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu

P.S.  The website also carries articles on science which can be found
here:
http://newsthump.com/category/science/
Of particular relevant to critical thinking activities, see the last article
on chiropracters.

P.P.S.  For those you haven't had their morning coffee or provigil hit,
I am told that Newsthump is something like The Onion but for people of
the British persuasion. If you are not of the British persuasion, do not
be surprised if you don't get the "attitude" behind the articles. ;-)





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