RE: [tips] Toilet talk
Quite a selection of caganers available http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1C1CHMB_enDK360DK360q=caganersqscrl=1um=1ie=UTF-8source=univei=S2fOTNegJMqcOoXavb8Bsa=Xoi=image_result_groupct=titleresnum=2ved=0CCcQsAQwAQbiw=1280bih=651Mari Marie Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Danish Institute for Study Abroad (DIS), +45 2065 1360 Dickinson College (on leave 2010/2011) http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html From: roig-rear...@comcast.net [mailto:roig-rear...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:36 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Toilet talk Oh dear ... I have Catalan roots (actually, Ibiza; my father's side - Roig) and I totally missed it. Thanks, Stephen. I will have to get one of those. I wonder whether the caganer collector represents the quintessential anal retentive character. ;-) Miguel - Original Message - From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Cc: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:08:58 PM Subject: re: [tips] Toilet talk On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:04:32 -0700, Stephen Black wrote: [snip] BTW, speaking of toilet talk, I can't believe that no one on this list reacted to my slipping in a mention of caganers among the things that men collect, in my recent post on collecting. If we can't have a little toilet humour on this list from time to time, what good is it, anyway? First, how DARE you use such a word on this list!?! Why, I would have missed it completely if you had not brought it up now. And now I had to look up the meaning of the dang thing. I didn't even know there was a word for such a thing. Second, for those of you who are like me and are unfamiliar with the term caganer, there is a Wikipedia entry on it with amusing pictures of examples. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer Third, I've had one girlfriend and a family member who were into collecting Christmas ornaments and cannot remember them ever referring to a caganer let alone having one. I've seen my share of Christmas nativity scenes over the decades and don't ever remember seeing such a figure in any of them. I will have to check out the creche at St. Patrick's cathedral in midtown though I have a feeling that I am more likely to see a caganer in Old St Patrick's cathedral in Little Italy. Fourth, what the hell is Canadian doing using a Catalan cultural concept? Bucking for the new cultural dude on Tips? ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: roig-rear...@comcast.net. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c74en=Tl=tipso=6137 or send a blank email to leave-6137-13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: helw...@dickinson.edumailto:helw...@dickinson.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a4468797fn=Tl=tipso=6138 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-6138-13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a44687...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-6138-13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a44687...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=6150 or send a blank email to leave-6150-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Toilet talk
Absolutely hilarious!!! You know, I think we should start a trend and get some of these to give as holiday gifts. Miguel - Original Message - From: Marie Helweg-Larsen helw...@dickinson.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Monday, November 1, 2010 3:09:50 AM Subject: RE: [tips] Toilet talk Quite a selection of caganers available http://www.google.com/images?rlz=1C1CHMB_enDK360DK360q=caganersqscrl=1um=1ie=UTF-8source=univei=S2fOTNegJMqcOoXavb8Bsa=Xoi=image_result_groupct=titleresnum=2ved=0CCcQsAQwAQbiw=1280bih=651Mari Marie Marie Helweg-Larsen, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Psychology Danish Institute for Study Abroad (DIS), +45 2065 1360 Dickinson College (on leave 2010/2011) http://users.dickinson.edu/~helwegm/index.html From: roig-rear...@comcast.net [mailto:roig-rear...@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:36 To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Toilet talk Oh dear ... I have Catalan roots (actually, Ibiza; my father's side - Roig) and I totally missed it. Thanks, Stephen. I will have to get one of those. I wonder whether the caganer collector represents the quintessential anal retentive character. ;-) Miguel - Original Message - From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Cc: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:08:58 PM Subject: re: [tips] Toilet talk On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:04:32 -0700, Stephen Black wrote: [snip] BTW, speaking of toilet talk, I can't believe that no one on this list reacted to my slipping in a mention of caganers among the things that men collect, in my recent post on collecting. If we can't have a little toilet humour on this list from time to time, what good is it, anyway? First, how DARE you use such a word on this list!?! Why, I would have missed it completely if you had not brought it up now. And now I had to look up the meaning of the dang thing. I didn't even know there was a word for such a thing. Second, for those of you who are like me and are unfamiliar with the term caganer, there is a Wikipedia entry on it with amusing pictures of examples. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer Third, I've had one girlfriend and a family member who were into collecting Christmas ornaments and cannot remember them ever referring to a caganer let alone having one. I've seen my share of Christmas nativity scenes over the decades and don't ever remember seeing such a figure in any of them. I will have to check out the creche at St. Patrick's cathedral in midtown though I have a feeling that I am more likely to see a caganer in Old St Patrick's cathedral in Little Italy. Fourth, what the hell is Canadian doing using a Catalan cultural concept? Bucking for the new cultural dude on Tips? ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: roig-rear...@comcast.net. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c74en=Tl=tipso=6137 or send a blank email to leave-6137-13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: helw...@dickinson.edu . To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a4468797fn=Tl=tipso=6138 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-6138-13234.b0e864a6eccfc779c8119f5a44687...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: roig-rear...@comcast.net . To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c74en=Tl=tipso=6150 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-6150-13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=6155 or send a blank email to leave-6155-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Toilet talk
I'm pleased to see such enthusiasm for caganerology, even if a tad belated. And I'd like to correct a serious omission in my toilet talk post. In the previous post where I first listed the caganer, I referenced a BMJ report on toilet training. An alert TIPster wrote me to note that that this journal name is particularly appropriate for such a topic. Yes indeed. And then Mike Palij wrote: Second, for those of you who are like me and are unfamiliar with the term caganer, there is a Wikipedia entry on it with amusing pictures of examples. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer I'm not gonna miss this one. The Wikipedia essay which Mike refers us to has this as one explanation for the psychological significance of the caganer The Caganer, by creating feces, is fertilizing the Earth. However, this is probably an a posteriori explanation You bet it is! Mike then accuses me of cultural appropriation. Fourth, what the hell is Canadian doing using a Catalan cultural concept? Bucking for the new cultural dude on Tips? ;-) In reply, I note that while the Caganer is unquestionably of Catalan heritage, its charm can be enjoyed by all, its use in American culture (no, not an oxymoron) included. See, for example: http://www.caganer.com/caganer-roger-federer-p-478.html (scan down and ignore the tennis players) Bobble-headed political figurines, eat your heart out. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=6173 or send a blank email to leave-6173-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Toilet talk
I see that the BMJ (British Medical Journal, as it was once known) has come out with practice guidelines for bedwetting. Number one on the list (ok, pun intended) for intervention is the bell-and-pad method (aka enuresis alarm). This just happens to be arguably the very first behavioural treatment for a distressing psychological problem, going back to the Mowrers in 1938. And it works very well, as randomized controlled studies have shown. I believe that the use of this device is well-established, not only in Britain, but also Australia (where some years ago enuresis devices were rated by a consumer reports-type organization in their publication). But there has always been resistance to its use in North America, probably because of lingering Freudian nonsense about it being merely a sign of a deep-seated problem which must be treated rather than treating the bed- wetting behaviour itself. e.g. Recently the American comedian Sarah Silverman published an autobiography in which her trauma at experiencing untreated enuresis figured prominently. I do not believe she was offered treatment by enuresis alarm. Perhaps this BMJ article will encourage more use of it in North American. Probably not, it being a British publication. BTW, speaking of toilet talk, I can't believe that no one on this list reacted to my slipping in a mention of caganers among the things that men collect, in my recent post on collecting. If we can't have a little toilet humour on this list from time to time, what good is it, anyway? Nunes, V. et al (2010). Practice Guidelines: Management of bedwetting in children and young people: summary of NICE guidance. BMJ 341:c5399 Available free at http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c5399.full [NICE stands for National Institute for Helath and Clinical Excellence of the British NHS [National Health Service-- socialized medicine, oh, the horror, the horror]. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=6135 or send a blank email to leave-6135-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
re: [tips] Toilet talk
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:04:32 -0700, Stephen Black wrote: [snip] BTW, speaking of toilet talk, I can't believe that no one on this list reacted to my slipping in a mention of caganers among the things that men collect, in my recent post on collecting. If we can't have a little toilet humour on this list from time to time, what good is it, anyway? First, how DARE you use such a word on this list!?! Why, I would have missed it completely if you had not brought it up now. And now I had to look up the meaning of the dang thing. I didn't even know there was a word for such a thing. Second, for those of you who are like me and are unfamiliar with the term caganer, there is a Wikipedia entry on it with amusing pictures of examples. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer Third, I've had one girlfriend and a family member who were into collecting Christmas ornaments and cannot remember them ever referring to a caganer let alone having one. I've seen my share of Christmas nativity scenes over the decades and don't ever remember seeing such a figure in any of them. I will have to check out the creche at St. Patrick's cathedral in midtown though I have a feeling that I am more likely to see a caganer in Old St Patrick's cathedral in Little Italy. Fourth, what the hell is Canadian doing using a Catalan cultural concept? Bucking for the new cultural dude on Tips? ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=6137 or send a blank email to leave-6137-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Toilet talk
Oh dear ... I have Catalan roots (actually, Ibiza; my father's side - Roig) and I totally missed it. Thanks, Stephen. I will have to get one of those. I wonder whether the caganer collector represents the quintessential anal retentive character. ;-) Miguel - Original Message - From: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Cc: Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:08:58 PM Subject: re: [tips] Toilet talk On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:04:32 -0700, Stephen Black wrote: [snip] BTW, speaking of toilet talk, I can't believe that no one on this list reacted to my slipping in a mention of caganers among the things that men collect, in my recent post on collecting. If we can't have a little toilet humour on this list from time to time, what good is it, anyway? First, how DARE you use such a word on this list!?! Why, I would have missed it completely if you had not brought it up now. And now I had to look up the meaning of the dang thing. I didn't even know there was a word for such a thing. Second, for those of you who are like me and are unfamiliar with the term caganer, there is a Wikipedia entry on it with amusing pictures of examples. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caganer Third, I've had one girlfriend and a family member who were into collecting Christmas ornaments and cannot remember them ever referring to a caganer let alone having one. I've seen my share of Christmas nativity scenes over the decades and don't ever remember seeing such a figure in any of them. I will have to check out the creche at St. Patrick's cathedral in midtown though I have a feeling that I am more likely to see a caganer in Old St Patrick's cathedral in Little Italy. Fourth, what the hell is Canadian doing using a Catalan cultural concept? Bucking for the new cultural dude on Tips? ;-) -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: roig-rear...@comcast.net. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c74en=Tl=tipso=6137 or send a blank email to leave-6137-13482.917fac06d4daae681dabfe964ca8c...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=6138 or send a blank email to leave-6138-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
