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First of all, just a thank you to all. I forget how chummy everyone is after so many years. I enjoyed the remember when we met thread. Back to the topic: Lynn, R., Kanazawa, S. (2008). How to explain high Jewish achievement: The role of intelligence and values. *Personality And Individual Differences *, *44*(4), 801-808. doi:10.1016/j.paid.2007.10.019 Throughout the 20th century, *Jews* have been greatly over-represented in western nations among intellectual elites, in the universities, and among the higher socio-economic classes. The two principal theories that have been advanced to explain this are that *Jews* have high *intelligence* and, alternatively, that they have cultural values that promote success. We review the evidence and present new data suggesting that high *intelligence*is the more important of these two factors. Lynn, R., Longley, D. (2006). On the high intelligence and cognitive achievements of Jews in Britain. *Intelligence*, *34*(6), 541-547. doi:10.1016/j.intell.2006.03.011 A number of studies in the United States have found that *Jews* obtain higher average IQs than white gentiles. This paper examines whether this is also the case in Britain. Three early studies are summarized that found that *Jews* in Britain have mean IQs in the range of 110-113. New data are presented for two nationally representative samples of 7-16 year olds in which *Jews* had mean IQs of 108.5 and 107.7. Taking all five studies into account, it is proposed that the best reading of the IQ of *Jews* in Britain is 110. It is proposed that the best reading of the IQ of *Jews* in the United States is 109.5. Data are presented for the numbers of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society in relation to their proportion in the population. It is found that *Jews* were over-represented by a factor of 3.7 in the years 1901 through 1940 and by a factor of 7.6 in the years 1950 through 2003. Data are also presented for the numbers Jewish Nobel prize-winners in Britain and the United States for 1901 through 2003. It is shown that *Jews* are over-represented among Nobel prize-winners by a factor of 8.0 in Britain and 12.3 in the United States. It is proposed that the over-representation of *Jews* among Nobel prize-winners can be partly explained by the higher average Jewish IQ. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved) Cochran, G., Hardy, J., Harpending, H. (2006). Natural history of Ashkenazi intelligence. *Journal Of Biosocial Science*, *38*(5), 659-693. doi:10.1017/S0021932005027069 This paper elaborates the hypothesis that the unique demography and sociology of Ashkenazim in medieval Europe selected for *intelligence*.Ashkenazi literacy, economic specialization, and closure to inward gene flow led to a social environment in which there was high fitness payoff to * intelligence*, specifically verbal and mathematical *intelligence* but not spatial ability. As with any regime of strong directional selection on a quantitative trait, genetic variants that were otherwise fitness reducing rose in frequency. In particular we propose that the well-known clusters of Ashkenazi genetic diseases, the sphingolipid cluster and the DNA repair cluster in particular, increase *intelligence* in heterozygotes. Other Ashkenazi disorders are known to increase *intelligence*. Although these disorders have been attributed to a bottleneck in Ashkenazi history and consequent genetic drift, there is no evidence of any bottleneck. Gene frequencies at a large number of autosomal loci show that if there was a bottleneck then subsequent gene flow from Europeans must have been very large, obliterating the effects of any bottleneck. The clustering of the disorders in only a few pathways and the presence at elevated frequency of more than one deleterious allele at many of them could not have been produced by drift. Instead these are signatures of strong and recent natural selection. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved) Lynn, R. (2004). The intelligence of American Jews. *Personality And Individual Differences*, *36*(1), 201-206. doi:10.1016/S0191-8869(03)00079-5 This paper provides new data on the theory that *Jews* have a higher average level of verbal *intelligence* than non-Jewish whites. The theory is considered by examining the vocabulary scores of *Jews*, non-Jewish whites, blacks and others obtained in the American General Social Surveys carried out by the National Opinion Research Centre in the years 1990-1996.Vocabulary size is a good measure of verbal *intelligence*. *Jews* obtained a significantly higher mean vocabulary score than non-Jewish whites, equivalent to an IQ advantage of 7.5 IQ points. The results confirm previous reports that the verbal IQ of American *Jews* is higher than that of non-Jewish whites. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved) All this and corned beef on rye, bagels, rugelach, and latkes...is there a doubt? Rob Rob Weisskirch, MSW. Ph.D. Professor
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I believe that you get similar data regarding Asians. And of course there is the question of whether IQ tests measure anything beyond verbal facility. And of course the food is our plot to kill off all the goy through atherosclerosis. We of course have an inherited immunity. On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weisskirch wrote: First of all, just a thank you to all. I forget how chummy everyone is after so many years. I enjoyed the remember when we met thread. Back to the topic: Lynn, R., Kanazawa, S. (2008). How to explain high Jewish achievement: The role of intelligence and values. Personality And Individual Differences, 44(4), 801-808. doi:10.1016/j.paid.2007.10.019 Throughout the 20th century, Jews have been greatly over-represented in western nations among intellectual elites, in the universities, and among the higher socio-economic classes. The two principal theories that have been advanced to explain this are that Jews have high intelligence and, alternatively, that they have cultural values that promote success. We review the evidence and present new data suggesting that high intelligence is the more important of these two factors. Lynn, R., Longley, D. (2006). On the high intelligence and cognitive achievements of Jews in Britain. Intelligence, 34(6), 541-547. doi:10.1016/j.intell.2006.03.011 A number of studies in the United States have found that Jews obtain higher average IQs than white gentiles. This paper examines whether this is also the case in Britain. Three early studies are summarized that found that Jews in Britain have mean IQs in the range of 110-113. New data are presented for two nationally representative samples of 7-16 year olds in which Jews had mean IQs of 108.5 and 107.7. Taking all five studies into account, it is proposed that the best reading of the IQ of Jews in Britain is 110. It is proposed that the best reading of the IQ of Jews in the United States is 109.5. Data are presented for the numbers of Jewish Fellows of the Royal Society in relation to their proportion in the population. It is found that Jews were over-represented by a factor of 3.7 in the years 1901 through 1940 and by a factor of 7.6 in the years 1950 through 2003. Data are also presented for the numbers Jewish Nobel prize-winners in Britain and the United States for 1901 through 2003. It is shown that Jews are over-represented among Nobel prize-winners by a factor of 8.0 in Britain and 12.3 in the United States. It is proposed that the over-representation of Jews among Nobel prize-winners can be partly explained by the higher average Jewish IQ. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved) Cochran, G., Hardy, J., Harpending, H. (2006). Natural history of Ashkenazi intelligence. Journal Of Biosocial Science, 38(5), 659-693. doi:10.1017/S0021932005027069 This paper elaborates the hypothesis that the unique demography and sociology of Ashkenazim in medieval Europe selected for intelligence. Ashkenazi literacy, economic specialization, and closure to inward gene flow led to a social environment in which there was high fitness payoff to intelligence, specifically verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial ability. As with any regime of strong directional selection on a quantitative trait, genetic variants that were otherwise fitness reducing rose in frequency. In particular we propose that the well-known clusters of Ashkenazi genetic diseases, the sphingolipid cluster and the DNA repair cluster in particular, increase intelligence in heterozygotes. Other Ashkenazi disorders are known to increase intelligence. Although these disorders have been attributed to a bottleneck in Ashkenazi history and consequent genetic drift, there is no evidence of any bottleneck. Gene frequencies at a large number of autosomal loci show that if there was a bottleneck then subsequent gene flow from Europeans must have been very large, obliterating the effects of any bottleneck. The clustering of the disorders in only a few pathways and the presence at elevated frequency of more than one deleterious allele at many of them could not have been produced by drift. Instead these are signatures of strong and recent natural selection. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved) Lynn, R. (2004). The intelligence of American Jews. Personality And Individual Differences, 36(1), 201-206. doi:10.1016/S0191-8869(03)00079-5 This paper provides new data on the theory that Jews have a higher average level of verbal intelligence than non-Jewish whites. The theory is considered by examining the vocabulary scores of Jews, non-Jewish whites, blacks and others obtained in the American General Social Surveys carried out by the National Opinion Research Centre in the years 1990-1996. Vocabulary size is a good measure of verbal intelligence. Jews obtained a significantly higher mean vocabulary score than non-Jewish whites, equivalent to an IQ
Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart
Rob Weisskirch cited studies which reported intellectual success of Jews relative to other definable groups, such in a report by Lynn and Kanazawa (2008) whose title says it all, How to explain high Jewish achievement: the role of intelligence and values. I don't want to dampen discussion of this valid topic. But as a spokesperson for my race (and everyone except Louis will recognize the facetious nature of that claim), I think it's worth noting that Jews are often uncomfortable when this issue is raised, and try not to raise it themselves. Centuries of persecution have made us cautious in advancing any claim which could lead to anti-semitism (it doesn't take much). Which leads me to my main reason for this post: to tell a joke. Murray and Leah decide to be adventurous for their 50th wedding anniversary, and travel to a beautiful South American country which happens to be ruled by a right-wing dictatorship. Unfortunately for the hapless tourists, they are spotted accidentally taking a photograph of a military establishment, and are immediately arrested for spying. After a month held under brutal conditions and unable to contact anyone at home, they are sentenced at a secret trial to be executed by firing squad. On the appointed day, they are blindfolded and led out to be shot. Murray has a final request. Please, he begs, Let me call our children at home to say good-bye. The commandant leans over and shouts, No!. Murray spits in his eye. Murray, Leah warns, Don't cause trouble!. And so it is with the question of Jewish smarts. Stephen Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca - --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14748 or send a blank email to leave-14748-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re:[tips] Clarification re jews born smart
Annette wrote: I met Allen for coffee (not tea) in London--delightful! Didn't realize until then that he is a mathematician by training, and not a psychologist. It was great meeting you and your other half in London, Annette. But I'm not a mathematician! (I shall refrain from commenting here on the fallibility of memory. :-) ) I have a physics degree from University College London, circa late 1950s (egad!). But I would not call myself a physicist, as I follow George Bernard Shaw's dictum: He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches. (No offence folks – at College level some both do and teach.) For the benefit especially of Stephen Black. I checked online, and it is authentic GBS, from an Appendix to Man and Superman. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org -- From: Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edu Subject:RE: Clarification re jews born smart Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 20:09:27 -0800 Ok. Seriously, I HAVE to meet some of you folks before I die! The wikiality link is too funny. I don't know when I'll be in New Yawk city but it's on my bucket list. I met Allen for coffee (not tea) in London--delightful! Didn't realize until then that he is a mathematician by training, and not a psychologist. I have also met Michael S in Daytona, during one of the AP readings, although I stayed in the background--he was spinning music outdoors. There are a few Canadians on this list I'd like to meet as well. And Beth! Have to meet Beth some time--aren't you in San Diego periodically, why haven't we met yet? Ah, it's so great to have a to-do list. And I will be in South Africa in February--but unfortunately only around Capetown! Annette ps: I took a grad course in dev psych from a devout follower of Jensen. Sigh. None of the women in class got A's; but the men did. :( My advisor advised me to not pursue it in academic grievance channels as the grades in grad school are not that relevant, and I did get a B; and it was better to just leave it alone; and he'd find a way to show that my grade was as it should be as everything was graded subjectively via papers and essay exams; and it was better just to focus on my dissertation. I don't know if I wish I had done anything--or not--as a year later the guy dropped dead. Literally. I'm glad he was out of the educational system. Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14693 or send a blank email to leave-14693-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Don't you remember? It was I who told you that I once had taught mathematics--at the meeting in Washington, D.C. last year. You remember that meeting in Washington, D.C., last year, don't you? Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. SCC: Professor of Psychology MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14697 or send a blank email to leave-14697-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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And the noncanonical third statement: Those who can't teach teach teachers. On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Allen Esterson wrote: Annette wrote: I met Allen for coffee (not tea) in London--delightful! Didn't realize until then that he is a mathematician by training, and not a psychologist. It was great meeting you and your other half in London, Annette. But I'm not a mathematician! (I shall refrain from commenting here on the fallibility of memory. :-) ) I have a physics degree from University College London, circa late 1950s (egad!). But I would not call myself a physicist, as I follow George Bernard Shaw's dictum: He who can, does. He who cannot, teaches. (No offence folks – at College level some both do and teach.) For the benefit especially of Stephen Black. I checked online, and it is authentic GBS, from an Appendix to Man and Superman. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14699 or send a blank email to leave-14699-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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Just curious if Jeff and Allen have some similarities,for example are they both bald headed? Please submit photos for analysis. Michael - Original Message - From: Jeffry Ricker To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Don't you remember? It was I who told you that I once had taught mathematics--at the meeting in Washington, D.C. last year. You remember that meeting in Washington, D.C., last year, don't you? Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. SCC: Professor of Psychology MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: msylves...@copper.net. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13424.eb17e1c03643c971ab35c22d86587541n=Tl=tipso=14697 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14697-13424.eb17e1c03643c971ab35c22d86587...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14701 or send a blank email to leave-14701-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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Now I remember! Yes, of course! It was right after I gave my presentation at APS in Washington, DC, and you came up to talk to me. It was great to meet you! I had forgotten but now I remember. ;) Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu From: Jeffry Ricker [jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:06 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Don't you remember? It was I who told you that I once had taught mathematics--at the meeting in Washington, D.C. last year. You remember that meeting in Washington, D.C., last year, don't you? Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. SCC: Professor of Psychology MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0n=Tl=tipso=14697 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14697-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-14697-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14702 or send a blank email to leave-14702-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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Do you remember when we met, Annette? On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edu wrote: Now I remember! Yes, of course! It was right after I gave my presentation at APS in Washington, DC, and you came up to talk to me. It was great to meet you! I had forgotten but now I remember. ;) Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu -- *From:* Jeffry Ricker [jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:06 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Don't you remember? It was I who told you that I once had taught mathematics--at the meeting in Washington, D.C. last year. You remember that meeting in Washington, D.C., last year, don't you? Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. SCC: Professor of Psychology MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0n=Tl=tipso=14697 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14697-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: devoldercar...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623341n=Tl=tipso=14702 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14702-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 This e-mail might be confidential, so please don't share it. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14707 or send a blank email to leave-14707-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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Annette wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Good thinking, Annette! I almost certainly would have told you that at the end of my teaching career I had given up teaching physics, and only taught mathematics. Your memory is (partly :-) ) vindicated. Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org --- RE: Re:[tips] Clarification re jews born smart Annette Taylor Tue, 06 Dec 2011 05:59:49 -0800 OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14710 or send a blank email to leave-14710-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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Yes, I believe it was approximately 26 years ago at APA in Anaheim, just outside of Disneyland. I believe I remember a discussion of teacups and Alice in Wonderland Yes, there is much related to teaching of human memory here ;) Annette ps: Does that answer the when question? ;) Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu From: Carol DeVolder [devoldercar...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:42 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart Do you remember when we met, Annette? On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu wrote: Now I remember! Yes, of course! It was right after I gave my presentation at APS in Washington, DC, and you came up to talk to me. It was great to meet you! I had forgotten but now I remember. ;) Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu From: Jeffry Ricker [jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edumailto:jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:06 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Don't you remember? It was I who told you that I once had taught mathematics--at the meeting in Washington, D.C. last year. You remember that meeting in Washington, D.C., last year, don't you? Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. SCC: Professor of Psychology MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213tel:%28480%29%20423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298tel:%28480%29%20423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0n=Tl=tipso=14697 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14697-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-14697-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: devoldercar...@gmail.commailto:devoldercar...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623341n=Tl=tipso=14702 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14702-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-14702-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 This e-mail might be confidential, so please don't share it. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edumailto:tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0n=Tl=tipso=14707 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14707-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-14707-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14720 or send a blank email to leave-14720-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart
Um yeah, and we were both high...right? :-) On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.edu wrote: Yes, I believe it was approximately 26 years ago at APA in Anaheim, just outside of Disneyland. I believe I remember a discussion of teacups and Alice in Wonderland Yes, there is much related to teaching of human memory here ;) Annette ps: Does that answer the when question? ;) Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu -- *From:* Carol DeVolder [devoldercar...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:42 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart Do you remember when we met, Annette? On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Annette Taylor tay...@sandiego.eduwrote: Now I remember! Yes, of course! It was right after I gave my presentation at APS in Washington, DC, and you came up to talk to me. It was great to meet you! I had forgotten but now I remember. ;) Annette Annette Kujawski Taylor, Ph. D. Professor, Psychological Sciences University of San Diego 5998 Alcala Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu -- *From:* Jeffry Ricker [jeff.ric...@sccmail.maricopa.edu] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:06 AM *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) *Subject:* Re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart On Dec 6, 2011, at 6:57 AM, Annette Taylor wrote: OMG I can't believe my memory is THAT bad. Did you perhaps tell me that you had taught mathematics?? Where did I get that idea? Don't you remember? It was I who told you that I once had taught mathematics--at the meeting in Washington, D.C. last year. You remember that meeting in Washington, D.C., last year, don't you? Jeff -- - Jeffry Ricker, Ph.D. SCC: Professor of Psychology MCCCD: General Studies Faculty Representative PSY 101 Website: http://sccpsy101.wordpress.com/ - Scottsdale Community College 9000 E. Chaparral Road Scottsdale, AZ 85256-2626 Office: SB-123 Phone: (480) 423-6213 Fax: (480) 423-6298 --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0n=Tl=tipso=14697 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14697-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: devoldercar...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623341n=Tl=tipso=14702 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14702-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 This e-mail might be confidential, so please don't share it. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: tay...@sandiego.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a21b0n=Tl=tipso=14707 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14707-13534.4204dc3a11678c6b1d0be57cfe0a2...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: devoldercar...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623341n=Tl=tipso=14720 (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) or send a blank email to leave-14720-177920.a45340211ac7929163a021623...@fsulist.frostburg.edu -- Carol DeVolder, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology St. Ambrose University 518 West Locust Street Davenport, Iowa 52803 563-333-6482 This e-mail might be confidential, so please don't share it. --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14721 or send a blank email to leave-14721-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
re: [tips] Clarification re jews born smart
On Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:57:38 -0800, Michael Sylvester wrote: my post meticulously I was referring to a statement made by my neighbor,an immigrant from Uzbekistan who lived for sometime under the Soviet system.I am curious though if this was a prevailing view then in the old Soviet Union. Paul's comment howver failed to look at interactions.Paul, however, has had in the past put an unintended spin on my posts. Ask your neighbor to read Richard Nisbett's book Intelligence and How to Get It'. You can make believe that you read the book and provide a summary of it by reading the following book review (a strategy employed mostly by high school English students in order to get out of reading books that they have no interest in); see: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/books/review/Holt-t.html?pagewanted=all You can start with the following quote: |Success in life depends on intelligence, which is measured by |I.Q. tests. Intelligence is mostly a matter of heredity, as |we know from studies of identical twins reared apart. Since |I.Q. differences between individuals are mainly genetic, the |same must be true for I.Q. differences between groups. So the |I.Q. ranking of racial/ethnic groups — Ashkenazi Jews on top, |followed by East Asians, whites in general, and then blacks — |is fixed by nature, not culture. Social programs that seek to |raise I.Q. are bound to be futile. Cognitive inequalities, |being written in the genes, are here to stay, and so are the |social inequalities that arise from them. Then you can explain how Nisbett demolishes this view. By the way, what did you neighbor think when Herman Cain referred to his nation as Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan? See: http://wikiality.wikia.com/Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=14683 or send a blank email to leave-14683-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
