Re: [Tlf-devel] v1.4 topics

2018-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 04 Nov 05:56 -0600, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> Hi Nate,
> 
> sorry, answering mails while in reality doing other stuff is a proven
> way to disaster...

Or entertainment?  ;-O

> > I note that '-n' does:
> > 
> >-n Start without packet/cluster.
> > 
> > in the manual page.  Does it do more?  I've not tried it as I rarely
> > use the cluster functionality.
> 
> Same remark applies here. I was talking about the -v (verbose) switch,
> which slows down the messages.

I'll try that.

> Again, sorry for my confusion. Seems it is not my day.

Nor mine.  I started in ARRL Sweepstakes about an hour ago and I'm just
not very good with all those numbers!

I need to go back to bed...

73, Nate

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Re: [Tlf-devel] v1.4 topics

2018-11-04 Thread Thomas Beierlein
Hi Nate,

sorry, answering mails while in reality doing other stuff is a proven
way to disaster...

Am Sun, 4 Nov 2018 05:35:34 -0600
schrieb Nate Bargmann :

> * On 2018 04 Nov 04:26 -0600, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> > Am Fri, 2 Nov 2018 23:21:57 -0500
> > schrieb Nate Bargmann :
> >   
> > > * On 2018 02 Nov 12:30 -0500, Thomas Beierlein wrote:  
> > > > P.S.: The 'todo' list now:
> > > > 
> > > > * allow vertical resizing of tlf (more room for cluster
> > > > messages)
> > > 
> ... snip ...
> 
> I'm just trying to be forward thinking!  ;-)

And that is good. Keep that habit ;-)!

> > > One few for the pile:  Accept master.scp, mastersx.scp,
> > > masusve.scp, and masterss.scp as well as callmaster (case
> > > ignored) for the Super Check Partial files.  Perhaps read them in
> > > the order listed and use the first one found?  For now I download
> > > the one I want and symlink callmaster to it, which works just as
> > > well! 
> > Hmm, ok. But better than hardcode that names (maybe there will be
> > others in later time) how about an keyword CALLMASTER= to name your
> > preference with a default to cty.dat if not set?  
> 
> Whoa!  Wrong file, Tom.  cty.dat is the country file, not the Super
> Check Partial file.  I'm discussing the latter.

Yeah, see my first sentence above. The default should be the
'callmaster' file.

> > Well there is the -n switch already. But I know some of the messages
> > will only appear once. So a confirmation for any onetime changes
> > may be appropriate.  
> 
> I note that '-n' does:
> 
>-n Start without packet/cluster.
> 
> in the manual page.  Does it do more?  I've not tried it as I rarely
> use the cluster functionality.

Same remark applies here. I was talking about the -v (verbose) switch,
which slows down the messages.

Again, sorry for my confusion. Seems it is not my day.

73, de Tom DL1JBE



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Re: [Tlf-devel] v1.4 topics

2018-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2018 04 Nov 04:26 -0600, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> Am Fri, 2 Nov 2018 23:21:57 -0500
> schrieb Nate Bargmann :
> 
> > * On 2018 02 Nov 12:30 -0500, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> > > P.S.: The 'todo' list now:
> > > 
> > > * allow vertical resizing of tlf (more room for cluster messages)  
> > 
> > May as well allow horizontal resizing.  It would require calculating
> > the anchor of some screen blocks like the score window from the right
> > margin, I think.
> > 
> That sure would be helpful, but is MUCH more work. So I would plan it
> for a later release. I fear it will need a complete rewrite of the
> display related code. At the moment display related stuff is
> scattered over most of the files.

I'm just trying to be forward thinking!  ;-)

> > One few for the pile:  Accept master.scp, mastersx.scp, masusve.scp,
> > and masterss.scp as well as callmaster (case ignored) for the Super
> > Check Partial files.  Perhaps read them in the order listed and use
> > the first one found?  For now I download the one I want and symlink
> > callmaster to it, which works just as well!
> > 
> Hmm, ok. But better than hardcode that names (maybe there will be
> others in later time) how about an keyword CALLMASTER= to name your
> preference with a default to cty.dat if not set?

Whoa!  Wrong file, Tom.  cty.dat is the country file, not the Super
Check Partial file.  I'm discussing the latter.

> > Consider requiring a key press on the first screens when Tlf is
> > started without a log file.  They often close too quickly to read all
> > the details.  Subsequent runs can be as it is now.  An alternative
> > might be to have an option keyword (yet another!) in logcfg.dat
> > specifying a timeout in seconds for each screen where 0 would require
> > a key press and negative would disable them.
> > 
> Well there is the -n switch already. But I know some of the messages
> will only appear once. So a confirmation for any onetime changes may be
> appropriate.

I note that '-n' does:

   -n Start without packet/cluster.

in the manual page.  Does it do more?  I've not tried it as I rarely use
the cluster functionality.

> P.S.: The actual (unsorted) 'todo' list now (Hope I did not forget
> something):
> 
> * allow vertical resizing of tlf (more room for cluster messages)
> * drop 'scan' menu with noise bridge, panorama scan and smeter
>   display (It did not work for a long time and I think no one is
>   using it)
> * Handling multiplier aliases (see thread started by Nate in June)
> * automatically switch back to 'Run' mode from "grab spot" after QSO
> * switch to hamlib's freq_t for frequencies ( and maybe factor out
>   hamlib stuff to a separate module )
> * Do a complete rewrite of display related code in the long term to
>   allow vertical AND horizontal resizing.
> * Allow other callmaster databases (hardcoded or by CALLMASTER= keyword)
> * Rework startup display for better readability by user

Looks like quite enough, actually!

73, Nate

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Re: [Tlf-devel] v1.4 topics

2018-11-03 Thread Ervin Hegedüs
On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 11:21:57PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2018 02 Nov 12:30 -0500, Thomas Beierlein wrote:
> > P.S.: The 'todo' list now:
> > 
> Consider requiring a key press on the first screens when Tlf is started
> without a log file.  They often close too quickly to read all the
> details.  Subsequent runs can be as it is now.  An alternative might be
> to have an option keyword (yet another!) in logcfg.dat specifying a
> timeout in seconds for each screen where 0 would require a key press and
> negative would disable them.
> 
> Thoughts?

a quick note for your last idea - that's very good! :)

That'ld be a useful feature.


73, Ervin
 

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[Tlf-devel] v1.4 topics

2018-10-31 Thread Csahok Zoltan
Hi Tom,

Some topics from my backlog:

* improve the "grab a spot while in run mode" use case:
- while CQing user grabs a spot using Alt-G
- mode switches to Log, freq is saved
- change: as soon as the QSO is logged (or Esc'ed) mode+freq
switch back automatically
(i.e. no need to press # and +)
- advanced mode: if supported by radio VFO-B
could be used to receive both freqs.

* grab on-screen spots only ("WYSIWYG"):
- use case: screen is full of cluster spots; user wants to jump to DL1ABC;
by mistake types DL2; Alt-G jumps to DL2XYZ that is also spotted
but was not visible.
result: user is confused.
- on the other hand jumping to an off-screen spot could make sense
if one knows from another source that the station was spotted.

* switch to hamlib's freq_t for frequencies:
tlf currently typically uses kHz values as floats
demo of a rounding error: https://repl.it/repls/EasyForcefulPackage


73,
Zoli

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 07:02:26AM +0200, Thomas Beierlein wrote:

> * allow vertical resizing of tlf (more room for cluster messages)
> * drop 'scan' menu with noise bridge, panorama scan and smeter display
>   (It did not work for a long time and I think no one is using it)
> 
> If there are additional ideas please add to the above list and send
> back.
> 
> 73, de Tom DL1JBE

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