Re: [TMIC] Shots and cramps

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Mike,

I used to get those foot cramps.

New fashioned Quinine water may not have enough quinine.  Adding Gin will help 
temporarily, but then you'll wake up at 2 am with bad foot cramps. Quinine is 
available OTC, I believe.

Physio- Stretching and strengthening those muscles- ESPECIALLY before bed- 
helps a lot.

Cannabinoids work very well, and have a very long half-life, so work for days.

A cold floor works well at releasing the cramp

F

Re: [TMIC] Vision

[ROBERT COOK]

DARE I GO THERE?  ME THINKS NOT.  BUT FRANK DOES INTIMATE ONE SALIENT
POINT, AND THAT IS TO GET TO KNOW YOURSELF, PARTICULARLY YOUR BODY IN IT'S
CURRENT CONDITION, VERY, VERY, WELL SO YOU CAN MONITOR WHAT IS GOING ON
WITH IT.  PARTICULARLY, AS WE AGE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS NATURAL WITH
AGING AND OTHER UNRELATED ISSUES, AND WHAT IS PROMPTED BY OUR RESIDUAL
EFFECTS OF TM OR OUR MEDICATIONS...  EXAMPLES:

ACID REFLUX YOU CANNOT FEEL DUE TO PARALYSIS
HEART PAIN FOR SAME REASON
LEG CRAMPS DUE TO BLOOD VESSEL BLOCKAGE, PARTLY DUE TO TM AND THEN AGING
BONE DETERMINATION
VISION PROBLEMS 
BACK PAIN
MEMORY PROBLEMS AND CONCENTRATION
COLITIS - POLIPS - DIVERTICULOSIS[ITIS]


DO NOT ASSUME YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO TM, DEVICS, MS ETC. 
YOU AND YOUR DOCTOR SHOULD RULE OUT OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSES BEFORE SETTLING
ON THE FACT IT IS TM RELATED.

JMHO

BOB, FROM HOUSTON-SPRING TEX
T-I PARA = CLASS OF 1994

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 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: TMIC-list@eskimo.com
 Date: 2/3/2006 8:24:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] Vision

  none of us have all the answers to anything.  And I certainly am one
of those! 

 Dear Linda, et al,

 I would respectfully disagree.

 I have all the answers to anything involving me.

 Even if I don't have all the facts, I have the answers!!

 Thanks for sharing...

 pH

Re: [TMIC] Vision

[Heather Pieter]

Besides TM we have so much to look forward to as we age - don't we??
(said with tongue in cheek)

Heather in Calgary

- Original Message - 
From: ROBERT COOK [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Vision



DARE I GO THERE?  ME THINKS NOT.  BUT FRANK DOES INTIMATE ONE SALIENT
POINT, AND THAT IS TO GET TO KNOW YOURSELF, PARTICULARLY YOUR BODY IN IT'S
CURRENT CONDITION, VERY, VERY, WELL SO YOU CAN MONITOR WHAT IS GOING ON
WITH IT.  PARTICULARLY, AS WE AGE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS NATURAL WITH
AGING AND OTHER UNRELATED ISSUES, AND WHAT IS PROMPTED BY OUR RESIDUAL
EFFECTS OF TM OR OUR MEDICATIONS...  EXAMPLES:

ACID REFLUX YOU CANNOT FEEL DUE TO PARALYSIS
HEART PAIN FOR SAME REASON
LEG CRAMPS DUE TO BLOOD VESSEL BLOCKAGE, PARTLY DUE TO TM AND THEN AGING
BONE DETERMINATION
VISION PROBLEMS
BACK PAIN
MEMORY PROBLEMS AND CONCENTRATION
COLITIS - POLIPS - DIVERTICULOSIS[ITIS]


DO NOT ASSUME YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO TM, DEVICS, MS ETC.
YOU AND YOUR DOCTOR SHOULD RULE OUT OTHER POSSIBLE CAUSES BEFORE SETTLING
ON THE FACT IT IS TM RELATED.

JMHO

BOB, FROM HOUSTON-SPRING TEX
T-I PARA = CLASS OF 1994

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[Original Message]
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Date: 2/3/2006 8:24:56 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Vision

 none of us have all the answers to anything.  And I certainly am one

of those!


Dear Linda, et al,

I would respectfully disagree.

I have all the answers to anything involving me.

Even if I don't have all the facts, I have the answers!!

Thanks for sharing...

pH






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Re: [TMIC] Vision

[Diane]

Had to giggle at this.  When I think 'age', my tongue just won't stay in my
cheek.  I stick it right out !!!
Diane in Canada

Heather  Pieter wrote:

 Besides TM we have so much to look forward to as we age - don't we??
 (said with tongue in cheek)

 Heather in Calgary

 - Original Message -
 From: ROBERT COOK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TMIC tmic-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [TMIC] Vision

  DARE I GO THERE?  ME THINKS NOT.

Re: [TMIC] Shots and cramps

[jeff bernier]

HELLO!!!  BE CAREFULL WITH THAT BACLOFEN,I TOOK IT FOR 5 YEARS AND IT CAUSED ALOT OFMUSCLE PROBLEMS AND INCREASED WEAKNESS IN MY LEGS AND I WOUND UP IN A WHEELCHAIR,AS FAR AS THE CRAMPS I GOT THE SAME SYMPTOMS BEFORE I GOT HIT WITH FULL BLOWN TM.  BY THE WAY THE COWBOYS RULE,I HOPE YOU SEAHAWK FANS STOCKED UP ON CLENEX LIKE YOU DID WHEN DALLAS LEFT TOWN AND LEFT YOU ALL SOBBING UNCONTROLLABLY,THATS WHY IT RAINS SO MUCH UP THERE.  NOW THAT I WOUND IT UP A BIT.HAVE A GOOD DAY.  !
 p;
 JEFF   CENRAL NY   USA  PS:DONT STEP IN FRONT OF THE BUS. 
  GO STEELERS!Mike  Jill Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Well, it has been a while since I have posted anything. I do lurk and read a lot of the postings. I have to weigh in on one subject and ask a question aboput something totally different.First, while I did not have a flu shot before I came down with TM, I had just recently completed a Hepatitis B series. At that time the doctor told me that this may have also been a possibility. I am not sure what it was, but after a lot of reading about injecti!
 ons of
 different types, and especially the contents of a flu shot, I thought that I would rather get the flu than the flu shot. The one flu shot I did get several years before TM made me sick. My question concerns cramps. I have been reading some of the postings and still have questions. For some time now I have been having cramps in my feet, mostly at night.The cramps usually are in the ball of the feet. These cramps range from annoying, to feeling like someone dropped an anvil on my foot. At times, the only relief I get is by putting pressure in the opposite direction from the way the cramp seems to want to pull the feet muscles. Has anyone else experienced something like this, and if so, what have you done for it. I still havecramps in various locations in my body and when they get too bad for me I take baclofen for 3 to!
 5
 days and they subside. Sometimes I can go a month or more without taking baclofen and sometimes it may be several times in a month. Sometime back I posted a question asking if anyone used quinine water to help with cramps and I did not receive any feedback. I feel that it does help a little. Mike in Marysville, Washingtonwhere it is wet, damp, rainy, soggy, mossy, and miserable. Othe than that, SEAHAWKS RULE!!!DIPLOMACY DOES NOTWORK WHEN DEALING WITHNUT'S HELL BENT ONDESTROYING US.
	
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[TMIC] Eyes and TM and diabetic retinopathy screening

[Dex Packard]

Greetings to one and all;

I got a letter from my health care provider the 
other day. It stated that I should come in for a DIABETIC RETINOPHY SCREENING. 
It also stated that this should be done once a year. 

So with TM I have to worry about DEVIC'S, and being 
DIABETIC I have two things to worry about when it comes to my 
eyes.

So, if any of you are diabetic, be sure to check 
this out. 

Dex Packard

Re: [TMIC] Vision

[cherpent]

Oh Frank - what can I say - respectfully 
Linda : - )

-- Original message -- From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   none of us have all the answers to anything. And I certainly am one of  those!   Dear Linda, et al,   I would respectfully disagree.   I have all the answers to anything involving me.   Even if I don't have all the facts, I have the answers!!   Thanks for sharing...   pH 

Re: [TMIC] Vision

[cherpent]

Diane,
You are a naughty one- but I say You Go Girl!!
Linda

-- Original message -- From: Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Had to giggle at this. When I think 'age', my tongue just won't stay in my  cheek. I stick it right out !!!  Diane in Canada   Heather  Pieter wrote:Besides TM we have so much to look forward to as we age - don't we??   (said with tongue in cheek) Heather in Calgary - Original Message -   From: "ROBERT COOK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  To: "TMIC"   Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:46 AM   Subject: Re: [TMIC] Vision  DARE I GO THERE? ME THINKS NOT.   

Re: [TMIC] Shots and cramps

[cherpent]

Uh Jeff - I was born and raised in SEATTLE, WASHINGTON - yes in SEAHAWKS territory and I WILL have a good day when you tell me YOU have stocked up on kleenex
Oh what the heck - hugs to you anyway : - )
Linda
GO SEAHAWKS!!!
-- Original message -- From: jeff bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
HELLO!!!
BE CAREFULL WITH THAT BACLOFEN,I TOOK IT FOR 5 YEARS AND IT CAUSED ALOT OFMUSCLE PROBLEMS AND INCREASED WEAKNESS IN MY LEGS AND I WOUND UP IN A WHEELCHAIR,AS FAR AS THE CRAMPS I GOT THE SAME SYMPTOMS BEFORE I GOT HIT WITH FULL BLOWN TM.
BY THE WAY THE COWBOYS RULE,I HOPE YOU SEAHAWK FANS STOCKED UP ON CLENEX LIKE YOU DID WHEN DALLAS LEFT TOWN AND LEFT YOU ALL SOBBING UNCONTROLLABLY,THATS WHY IT RAINS SO MUCH UP THERE.
NOW THAT I WOUND IT UP A BIT.HAVE A GOOD DAY.
nbs! p; JEFF
 CENRAL NY
 USA
PS:DONT STEP IN FRONT OF THE BUS.
 GO STEELERS!Mike  Jill Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Well, it has been a while since I have posted anything. I do lurk and read a lot of the postings. I have to weigh in on one subject and ask a question aboput something totally different.

First, while I did not have a flu shot before I came down with TM, I had just recently completed a Hepatitis B series. At that time the doctor told me that this may have also been a possibility. I am not sure what it was, but after a lot of reading about injecti! ons of different types, and especially the contents of a flu shot, I thought that I would rather get the flu than the flu shot. The one flu shot I did get several years before TM made me sick. 

My question concerns cramps. I have been reading some of the postings and still have questions. For some time now I have been having cramps in my feet, mostly at night.The cramps usually are in the ball of the feet. These cramps range from annoying, to feeling like someone dropped an anvil on my foot. At times, the only relief I get is by putting pressure in the opposite direction from the way the cramp seems to want to pull the feet muscles. Has anyone else experienced something like this, and if so, what have you done for it. I still havecramps in various locations in my body and when they get too bad for me I take baclofen for 3 to! 5 days and they subside. Sometimes I can go a month or more without taking baclofen and sometimes it may be several times in a month. Sometime back I posted a question asking if anyone used quinine water to help with cramps and I did not receiv!
 e any feedback. I feel that it does help a little. 

Mike in Marysville, Washingtonwhere it is wet, damp, rainy, soggy, mossy, and miserable. Othe than that, SEAHAWKS RULE!!!DIPLOMACY DOES NOTWORK WHEN DEALING WITHNUT'S HELL BENT ONDESTROYING US.


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