Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
From: john snodgrass jcs...@yahoo.com To: a...@artfarm.com a...@artfarm.com Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Blown Away it is definitely something to hold onto when in the spirit of our mind,the things we suffer become like the poor countryside that is up to us to embrace the beauty that surrounds us to keep us sane in an insane situation. I watch way to much news on TV,that doesn't help a thing. Thank God i am surrounded with grandchildren!!! (and you folks!) it is the attitude and not so much the aptitude that will definitely determine our altitude. From: a...@artfarm.com a...@artfarm.com To: Dalton Garis malugss...@gmail.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [TMIC] Blown Away This reads like a poem, Dalton!!! You give the picture images that encapsulate the facts. Throughout my many discussions and meetings on the transportation issue here, I like to pull out as to how the suicide rate here is higher than in New York City… No one has to think about the disabled because they don't see the disabled and they like it like that. I've already lived through various folks' awakenings as their aged parents or mentally challenged kids need to get around somewhere or do something and they can't. And the person can't always be the chauffeur… then i get the note or the call…. Or as the annoyingly chipper woman did, failing to find a solution, just quit her job as the mobility manager. She had been, as some here have, insulting about my perspective on the obstacles and barriers. (she'd been hired to get organizations to pool their resources and create a paratransit solution). I never knew teen suicide was an issue until i moved here, when one spring in the bucolic hills, 5 kids killed themselves…. and these were the middle class, the better off, the able bodied. It is that lack of empathy or understanding that kills. Thanks so much for the affirmation! Akua On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Dalton Garis wrote: There is a vast, vast difference living in the well-off countryside, the bucolic countryside, of beautiful sunsets and fond remembrances … and living in the poor countryside, stuck in a country where white bread wrappers blow in the wind and get snagged by low branches; And where used pampers litter the yards and old appliances are thrown down the hill behind the houses; And where no one has their own teeth after age 37; And where the only books for sale are Harlequin novels; And where women wear facial bruises on Monday's; And where you need three cars, so that one might start; And where seeing a doctor means bringing some trinket he might want in exchange for services rendered; And where the man of the house spends all his money on chroming his truck, while his wife and kids live in a trailer; And where the downtown has been gutted, borded-up and Wal-Marted. And where Monday mornings in March see the most suicides. That countryside is the daily reality of the country's poor. That countryside is rarely referenced or discussed. As a sawmill and woods worker in Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico and Washington State, I knew that countryside well. Being a part of that countryside is disability enough. That countryside is a bad place to be if you are even more disabled. Dalton From: a...@artfarm.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:41:37 -0400 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Blown Away Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:45:43 -0700 i'm dumbstruck at the question why do I stay coming from this group. I am paralyzed -- i would think folks here at least might understand what having a disability thrust on them late in life would mean. Or maybe i just didn't know that there were services that buy one's home, pack one up, and relocates them to more congenial and supportive communities. I never found such, but it could just be the limits of my imagination. Or maybe i'm the only person here without the money to just buy myself the solutions i need. I am obviously wrong on many counts.
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
There is a vast, vast difference living in the well-off countryside, the bucolic countryside, of beautiful sunsets and fond remembrances and living in the poor countryside, stuck in a country where white bread wrappers blow in the wind and get snagged by low branches; And where used pampers litter the yards and old appliances are thrown down the hill behind the houses; And where no one has their own teeth after age 37; And where the only books for sale are Harlequin novels; And where women wear facial bruises on Monday's; And where you need three cars, so that one might start; And where seeing a doctor means bringing some trinket he might want in exchange for services rendered; And where the man of the house spends all his money on chroming his truck, while his wife and kids live in a trailer; And where the downtown has been gutted, borded-up and Wal-Marted. And where Monday mornings in March see the most suicides. That countryside is the daily reality of the country's poor. That countryside is rarely referenced or discussed. As a sawmill and woods worker in Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico and Washington State, I knew that countryside well. Being a part of that countryside is disability enough. That countryside is a bad place to be if you are even more disabled. Dalton From: a...@artfarm.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:41:37 -0400 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Blown Away Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:45:43 -0700 i'm dumbstruck at the question why do I stay coming from this group. I am paralyzed -- i would think folks here at least might understand what having a disability thrust on them late in life would mean. Or maybe i just didn't know that there were services that buy one's home, pack one up, and relocates them to more congenial and supportive communities. I never found such, but it could just be the limits of my imagination. Or maybe i'm the only person here without the money to just buy myself the solutions i need. I am obviously wrong on many counts.
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
Akua, I suppose that it might be hard for some to contemplate a person's situation without actually living in their shoes so to speak. Unfortunately, there are those that don't realize that there is another way of life that some live, that is different from their own. It is apparent then, that they also don't realize that without resources, it is very hard to change the situation a person is in. If those resources don't exist, then a person is unfortunately confined to trying to make the best of what they have. Seems that there is some ignorance from within the disabled community against others that are disabled, as there is some ignorance from those that aren't disabled, against those of us that are. (ie: I hear the comment all the time..it's in your heador, if you exercised more you would get better) Just my point of view. Kevin https://www.facebook.com/groups/TMFolk/ From: a...@artfarm.com a...@artfarm.com To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:41 PM Subject: [TMIC] Blown Away i'm dumbstruck at the question why do I stay coming from this group. I am paralyzed -- i would think folks here at least might understand what having a disability thrust on them late in life would mean. Or maybe i just didn't know that there were services that buy one's home, pack one up, and relocates them to more congenial and supportive communities. I never found such, but it could just be the limits of my imagination. Or maybe i'm the only person here without the money to just buy myself the solutions i need. I am obviously wrong on many counts.
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
I completely agree. Lack of money and the fact that you are dependent on other people is what makes it impossible to make changes in your life. Most of us are in the same boat, we are a prisoner of our limitations. That is why even though it was the hardest thing I have ever done is move 125 miles to be close to our daughter. I did have help from my hubby but the packing, etc. fell on us. We did have help after we got to our destination but just thinking about it now makes me shutter. In many ways our society does not care about our elderly or people with mobility problems. When you have family, you have everything. Patti On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:41 PM, a...@artfarm.com wrote: i'm dumbstruck at the question why do I stay coming from this group. I am paralyzed -- i would think folks here at least might understand what having a disability thrust on them late in life would mean. Or maybe i just didn't know that there were services that buy one's home, pack one up, and relocates them to more congenial and supportive communities. I never found such, but it could just be the limits of my imagination. Or maybe i'm the only person here without the money to just buy myself the solutions i need. I am obviously wrong on many counts.
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
Pat Cooley wrote: I completely agree. Lack of money and the fact that you are dependent on other people is what makes it impossible to make changes in your life. Thanks Patti! Glad you were able to make the change.
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
Thanks Kevin, I guess my mistake is the assumption that being disabled made folks more sensitive and more informed. Akua On Apr 1, 2012, at 7:15 AM, kevin weilacher wrote: Akua, If those resources don't exist, then a person is unfortunately confined to trying to make the best of what they have. Seems that there is some ignorance from within the disabled community against others that are disabled, as there is some ignorance from those that aren't disabled, against those of us that are. (ie: I hear the comment all the time..it's in your heador, if you exercised more you would get better)
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
This reads like a poem, Dalton!!! You give the picture images that encapsulate the facts. Throughout my many discussions and meetings on the transportation issue here, I like to pull out as to how the suicide rate here is higher than in New York City… No one has to think about the disabled because they don't see the disabled and they like it like that. I've already lived through various folks' awakenings as their aged parents or mentally challenged kids need to get around somewhere or do something and they can't. And the person can't always be the chauffeur… then i get the note or the call…. Or as the annoyingly chipper woman did, failing to find a solution, just quit her job as the mobility manager. She had been, as some here have, insulting about my perspective on the obstacles and barriers. (she'd been hired to get organizations to pool their resources and create a paratransit solution). I never knew teen suicide was an issue until i moved here, when one spring in the bucolic hills, 5 kids killed themselves…. and these were the middle class, the better off, the able bodied. It is that lack of empathy or understanding that kills. Thanks so much for the affirmation! Akua On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Dalton Garis wrote: There is a vast, vast difference living in the well-off countryside, the bucolic countryside, of beautiful sunsets and fond remembrances … and living in the poor countryside, stuck in a country where white bread wrappers blow in the wind and get snagged by low branches; And where used pampers litter the yards and old appliances are thrown down the hill behind the houses; And where no one has their own teeth after age 37; And where the only books for sale are Harlequin novels; And where women wear facial bruises on Monday's; And where you need three cars, so that one might start; And where seeing a doctor means bringing some trinket he might want in exchange for services rendered; And where the man of the house spends all his money on chroming his truck, while his wife and kids live in a trailer; And where the downtown has been gutted, borded-up and Wal-Marted. And where Monday mornings in March see the most suicides. That countryside is the daily reality of the country's poor. That countryside is rarely referenced or discussed. As a sawmill and woods worker in Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, Montana, Colorado, New Mexico and Washington State, I knew that countryside well. Being a part of that countryside is disability enough. That countryside is a bad place to be if you are even more disabled. Dalton From: a...@artfarm.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:41:37 -0400 To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Subject: [TMIC] Blown Away Resent-From: tmic-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:45:43 -0700 i'm dumbstruck at the question why do I stay coming from this group. I am paralyzed -- i would think folks here at least might understand what having a disability thrust on them late in life would mean. Or maybe i just didn't know that there were services that buy one's home, pack one up, and relocates them to more congenial and supportive communities. I never found such, but it could just be the limits of my imagination. Or maybe i'm the only person here without the money to just buy myself the solutions i need. I am obviously wrong on many counts.
[TMIC] Blown Away
i'm dumbstruck at the question why do I stay coming from this group. I am paralyzed -- i would think folks here at least might understand what having a disability thrust on them late in life would mean. Or maybe i just didn't know that there were services that buy one's home, pack one up, and relocates them to more congenial and supportive communities. I never found such, but it could just be the limits of my imagination. Or maybe i'm the only person here without the money to just buy myself the solutions i need. I am obviously wrong on many counts.
Re: [TMIC] Blown Away
Hi Akua, I'm really confused as to what point you are trying to make here Akua? Can you expound or elaborate a little more, so we can understand why you feel like you are feeling? Peace, Bernie in Texas
