RE: [TMIC] low dose naltrexone
Fantastic. ! My neurologist would not prescribe it for me. I hope it continues working for you! Please keep us up to date as to how it goes for you. Trudy Virginia TM- 02/02 MS - 02/07 _ From: ROBERT DIEHL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:30 AM To: tmic Cc: jude Subject: [TMIC] low dose naltrexone my name is robt. diehl Tm since 04/04 i'm74 yrs. old my dr. gave me a prep. for ldn 4.5 mg once daily at bed time been on it for a month now.. the compouding phyrmist that makes it for me said that it helps make the immune system stronger... he said that is a good thing for me... so far i seem to have better control of my body functions and my banding and back pain seem to be a little better prep is for 6 mo. so i'm willing to see what happens... i have no side effects from it so far at my age things may go a lot slower so time will tell have a good day everyone bob from pa.
Re: [TMIC] low dose naltrexone
I think that is the point the doctor pharmacist had about LDN, how can it help with pain management? It blocks the receptors in the brain that make even our own natural pain killers not be effective. We do get a lot (about 25% of the patients on my unit on a given day are there to be detoxed from hydrocodone) of people on my unit that have been Rx narcotics for pain management but have lost the ability to take them without abusing them. Or for one reason or another they have decided to find other avenues to deal with thier pain. I I took several narcotics for pain management early in my experience with TM but recognized a severe dependence on them as well as with valium for spasisity. I really don't think I over used them at any time but I was so intoxicated all the time and I couldn't function at a quality level. Thank God for neurontin, topamax, baclofen and Doctors that are willing to search for other drugs that can help with pain management. I haven't had a narcotic in 17 years. Today I take low dose baclofen, 120mg of cymbalta daily to help me with my neuropathic pain. I was just talking with my PCP last week discussing the benefits of the cymbalta. I really don't think it reduces the pain, it just helps me live with it on a daily basis. I have to admit there are days when my back pain takes my breath, and my legs just throb and burn. But overall, most of the time it has become tolerable and I don't have tolive with the lethergy brain numbingof the narcotics and benzodiazipine. So, don't think I understand either about taking LDN for pain management. But, it never ceases to amaze me how the right cocktail of medications can help indvidual people cope with a multitude of problems. I agree with Frank who suggest THC is helpful for pain management and spasm control but I can't take due to policy at work and it's illegal. I have attemped to talk several doctors in to Rx Marinol but to no avail. Larry in Oklahoma where my one of my dogs just started giving birth to puppies. Better go help! Larry Throne, MSW From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TMIC] low dose naltrexoneDate: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 21:26:10 EST Hi Larry, Having just read your email regarding low dose naltrexone, I am left with a couple of questions... I am a T3-T8 paraplegic with no movement, no sensation and no Bor B control. I am thankful that I have my arms, hands, shoulders and whatever brain I have left after TM did its work on me. Umm...Speaking as one with lots of nerve damage causing lots of neuropathic pain, I have been prescribed opoid drugs for pain control since day one. If one needs to take the drugs for pain control, why would one want to take the good effects of the opoids away? Why would one want to take the "ldn"? I understand its use for drug addicts or alcoholics, but not its use as a pain controller. Or am I confusing the issue? While I am most assuredly dependent upon opoid drugs for comfort enough to get me through the days and nights, I am not an addict in the sense of the word as most people use it. I do not understand of what help "ldn" would be for someone with needs such as mine. Can you help set me straight? Jude, in Michigan Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live
Re: [TMIC] low dose naltrexone
Hi Bob, I wrote to the list in Nov about LDN. I am still taking it and still having some improvement while on it. If you go to http://www.remedyfind.com/treatments/0/2165/ there are first hand accounts about LDN from people who have various illnesses. Also, here is a site that should help you. And, the owner is very good about answering questions about LDN. http://www.freewebs.com/crystalangel6267/index.htm Good luck in your searching. Natalie B http://remedy.com On 1/5/07, ROBERT DIEHL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back in nova posting about low dose naltrexone was listed..i did some print outs about it and gave them to my dr...he was going to look into it...has anybody else done any research about the LDN as they call it?? has anybody else tried it to see if it helps??i go to my dr next week and am looking for any additional info to give him about anyone else using it BOB from PATM since 04/04. HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE
RE: [TMIC] low dose naltrexone
Robert, I work at a psychiatric hospital. The unit I work on deals primarily with persons that have co-occurring diagnosis of mental illness and chemical dependency. We occasionally utilize naltrexone as an aid to assist alcoholics or opioid dependent persons refrain from benefiting from those drugs. It is my understanding that naltrexsone blocks the parts of your brain that feel pleasure when you use alcohol and narcotics. When these areas of the brain are blocked, you feel less need to drink alcohol or take narcotics, and you can stopusing these substancesmore easily. When I first read the letter you are referring to I asked the pharmacist and the psychiatrist that I work with their opinions of using naltrexsone for pain management and they both were unsure of how it could be used in this manner. But, they are willing to read any literature that can definitively demonstrate quality pain management they would be willing to give it a try. So, if you hear of anything, let me know. One of the problems we had in the past with naltrexsone was that if you stop taking it today, you can drink or use today. But there is a new version of in called Vivitrol that is injectable and supplies the patient a dose for one full month. We have found it very useful especially in the early months of recovery. I'll bet the company that is makingVivitrol might have some studies that may help you. Larry in Oklahoma TM since 09/74 Larry Throne, MSW From: "ROBERT DIEHL" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "tmic" tmic-list@eskimo.comSubject: [TMIC] low dose naltrexoneDate: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:28:51 -0500 back in nova posting about low dose naltrexone was listed..i did some print outs about it and gave them to my dr...he was going to look into it...has anybody else done any research about the LDN as they call it?? has anybody else tried it to see if it helps?? i go to my dr next week and am looking for any additional info to give him about anyone else using it BOB from PATM since 04/04.HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page