[toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Alex]

Hello,
I have installed and setup toaster using instructions provided by Bill and
it works great!
Now is the task of keeping it up-to-date. I'm a Linux user for a while but
can't consider myself to be very proficient and asking for some points. I
currently have a toaster v.0.7.9 - 3/13/2005 with custom error reject
patch installed and would like to update it to current. Before I mainly
installed any updates using RPM's and was wondering if simply redoing the
install steps for the software that requires updates will update it or do
I need to first remove old versions of libraries, etc ?
I have found this instructions for ClamAV update. How true they are ?:

quote:
When you type "make install", existing binaries are overwritten. All you
have to do is restart clamd and freshclam (if running as a daemon). By
default, ./configure places binaries under /usr/local/bin, configuration
files under /usr/local/etc and database under /usr/share/clamav.

Configuration files are not overwritten!

And here is other small bit from same
http://wiki.clamav.net/index.php/UpgradeInstructions :

quote:
My process for installing a new version:
Preserve the previous build for fall-back purposes

1.  dl the source for the version of interest
2.  read the dox for build changes
3.  create a configure/make script (for repeatability - mine has my chosen
options in it)
4.  examine the new conf files for interesting entries
5.  make backup copies of conf files from previous version
6.  stop clamav procs
7.  rm -f /usr/local/lib/*clam* (to remove old libraries)
8.  make install
9.  check again conf files - adjust as needed for new version
10. restart clamav processes

Ofcaurse I understand that I have to reuse same options for ./configure
that I have used during the build. But should I actually remove the old
libraries as recomended or just do an overwrite?

The assistance will greatly appreciated!

Alex Sysoef

Re: [toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold]

Alex wrote:

>Hello,
>I have installed and setup toaster using instructions provided by Bill and
>it works great!
>Now is the task of keeping it up-to-date. I'm a Linux user for a while but
>can't consider myself to be very proficient and asking for some points. I
>currently have a toaster v.0.7.9 - 3/13/2005 with custom error reject
>patch installed and would like to update it to current. Before I mainly
>installed any updates using RPM's and was wondering if simply redoing the
>install steps for the software that requires updates will update it or do
>I need to first remove old versions of libraries, etc ?
>I have found this instructions for ClamAV update. How true they are ?:
>  
>

Firstly, what is your intention here?  Are you looking to ensure that
the antivirus and spam system is up to date, or are you looking to be
"up to date" with the latest incarnation of the toaster?

Keeping up with AV and Spam is definitely a recommended option.  Keeping
up with the latest incarnation of the toaster isn't something I would
recommend, unless you're looking to gain the latest features.

>Ofcaurse I understand that I have to reuse same options for ./configure
>that I have used during the build. But should I actually remove the old
>libraries as recomended or just do an overwrite?
>  
>

It sounds like you're interested in updating ClamAV ...  If you
installed it initially via source, then I would recommend keeping with
that method.  Ensure that the configure options are the same (making
note of any necessary changes if something has changed in the
software).  You should be able to safely install overtop of the existing
installation and it will overwrite the files.

This is one reason I recommend using a packaging system.  I use RPM's
here.  I have rolled and maintain my own ClamAV RPMs and when I need to
upgrade, the RPM ensures that the old files are removed, and the new
ones are installed.  This, of course, is my own personal preference...  :)

>The assistance will greatly appreciated!
>  
>

If you need any more help, don't hesitate to ask!

>Alex Sysoef
>  
>

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all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming."

Re: [toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Alex]

Thanks Jason!
You are correct, I'm only trying to keep up-to-date with Anti-Virus /
Spam. I have noticed that ClamAV have been updated to 0.84 and my logs are
complaining :-) Also not sure if this help but when I tried sending test
virus infected messages from one fo the online services, couple of
infections got through, mainly with *.zip packaged tes files. So any
recomended update for this package is a welcome option. I don't really
care to keep up with toaster unless it will give me an options I really
need or want.

Once again, thanks for quick reply!

Alex



> Alex wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>I have installed and setup toaster using instructions provided by Bill
>> and
>>it works great!
>>Now is the task of keeping it up-to-date. I'm a Linux user for a while
>> but
>>can't consider myself to be very proficient and asking for some points. I
>>currently have a toaster v.0.7.9 - 3/13/2005 with custom error reject
>>patch installed and would like to update it to current. Before I mainly
>>installed any updates using RPM's and was wondering if simply redoing the
>>install steps for the software that requires updates will update it or do
>>I need to first remove old versions of libraries, etc ?
>>I have found this instructions for ClamAV update. How true they are ?:
>>
>>
>
> Firstly, what is your intention here?  Are you looking to ensure that
> the antivirus and spam system is up to date, or are you looking to be
> "up to date" with the latest incarnation of the toaster?
>
> Keeping up with AV and Spam is definitely a recommended option.  Keeping
> up with the latest incarnation of the toaster isn't something I would
> recommend, unless you're looking to gain the latest features.
>
>>Ofcaurse I understand that I have to reuse same options for ./configure
>>that I have used during the build. But should I actually remove the old
>>libraries as recomended or just do an overwrite?
>>
>>
>
> It sounds like you're interested in updating ClamAV ...  If you
> installed it initially via source, then I would recommend keeping with
> that method.  Ensure that the configure options are the same (making
> note of any necessary changes if something has changed in the
> software).  You should be able to safely install overtop of the existing
> installation and it will overwrite the files.
>
> This is one reason I recommend using a packaging system.  I use RPM's
> here.  I have rolled and maintain my own ClamAV RPMs and when I need to
> upgrade, the RPM ensures that the old files are removed, and the new
> ones are installed.  This, of course, is my own personal preference...  :)
>
>>The assistance will greatly appreciated!
>>
>>
>
> If you need any more help, don't hesitate to ask!
>
>>Alex Sysoef
>>
>>
>
> --
> ---
> Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
> Engine / Technology Programmer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RedHat Certified - RHCE # 803004140609871
> MySQL Pro Certified - ID# 207171862
> MySQL Core Certified - ID# 205982910
> ---
> "Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone
> and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the
> source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao
> of Programming."
>
>



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Re: [toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold]

Alex wrote:

>Thanks Jason!
>You are correct, I'm only trying to keep up-to-date with Anti-Virus /
>Spam. I have noticed that ClamAV have been updated to 0.84 and my logs are
>complaining :-) Also not sure if this help but when I tried sending test
>virus infected messages from one fo the online services, couple of
>infections got through, mainly with *.zip packaged tes files. So any
>recomended update for this package is a welcome option. I don't really
>care to keep up with toaster unless it will give me an options I really
>need or want.
>  
>

As an aside...  Spamassassin was updated to 3.0.3 recently.  I'm not
sure if anyone else is seeing this, but my spam levels have dropped
significantly since installing the new update.  The changelog says it's
mainly a bugfix release...

>Once again, thanks for quick reply!
>  
>

No problem :)

>Alex
>  
>


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---
Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
Engine / Technology Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RedHat Certified - RHCE # 803004140609871
MySQL Pro Certified - ID# 207171862
MySQL Core Certified - ID# 205982910
---
"Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and 
unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of 
all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming."

Re: [toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Alex]

> As an aside...  Spamassassin was updated to 3.0.3 recently.  I'm not
> sure if anyone else is seeing this, but my spam levels have dropped
> significantly since installing the new update.  The changelog says it's
> mainly a bugfix release...

Well ... now since you mention it   :-) I just looked through the docs
for new install and IF I correctly understood simply reusing commands from
toaster setup:

 cd /root
export LANG=en_US
perl -MCPAN -e shell
o conf prerequisites_policy ask
install Mail::SpamAssassin
quit

and verifying that the rest of directives specified still true and correct
should get me going with new version? Just a sanity check on my end ...

Re: [toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold]

Alex wrote:

>Well ... now since you mention it   :-) I just looked through the docs
>for new install and IF I correctly understood simply reusing commands from
>toaster setup:
>
> cd /root
>export LANG=en_US
>perl -MCPAN -e shell
>o conf prerequisites_policy ask
>install Mail::SpamAssassin
>quit
>
>and verifying that the rest of directives specified still true and correct
>should get me going with new version? Just a sanity check on my end ...
>  
>

Yup, that'll upgrade spamassasin for ya..  :)


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---
Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
Engine / Technology Programmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RedHat Certified - RHCE # 803004140609871
MySQL Pro Certified - ID# 207171862
MySQL Core Certified - ID# 205982910
---
"Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and 
unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of 
all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming."

Re: [toaster] Software update: request for guidance.

[Alex]

> Yup, that'll upgrade spamassasin for ya..  :)

Thanks for answering all the dumb questions Jason!
have a good one.

[toaster] simscan query

[Nick Gilbert]

Hi,
How do I verify that simscan is actually running and working? I've 
installed it and configured it (I think!) but I'm not sure how to verify 
that it's actually being called. Can someone please give me some 
pointers how I can verify my setup.

Thanks,
Nick...

Re: [toaster] simscan query

[Alex]

If you look into e-mail details (header) you should be able to see if
simscan is called. Here is an example of your e-mail I have recieved from
toaster mailing list:

Received: (qmail 7690 invoked by uid 89); 3 May 2005 22:00:46 -
Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 7684, pid: 7685, t: 0.3201s
scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.83/m:31/d:858 spam: 3.0.2
Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.russianeast.com) (172.30.100.1)
by 0 with SMTP; 3 May 2005 22:00:46 -
Received-SPF: none (0: domain at shupp.org does not designate permitted
sender hosts)
Received: from [67.43.175.66] (helo=mail.merchbox.com)
by mail1.russianeast.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30)
id 1DT5Re-0002Hp-7R
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 03 May 2005 18:00:46 -0400
Received: (qmail 5380 invoked by uid 530); 3 May 2005 22:00:37 -
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: 
Reply-To: toaster@shupp.org
Delivered-To: mailing list toaster@shupp.org
Received: (qmail 5374 invoked by uid 530); 3 May 2005 22:00:37 -
Received-SPF: none (0: domain at nickgilbert.com does not designate
permitted sender hosts)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:00:28 +0100
From: Nick Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: toaster@shupp.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: [toaster] simscan query
X-Scan-Signature: c03760373adc782a8412eea9d6045da1
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on
mail1.russianeast.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled
version=3.0.2

As you can see on second line its clearly stating that simscan was called.

Alex


> Hi,
>
> How do I verify that simscan is actually running and working? I've
> installed it and configured it (I think!) but I'm not sure how to verify
> that it's actually being called. Can someone please give me some
> pointers how I can verify my setup.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick...
>
>



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Re: [toaster] simscan query

[Nick Gilbert]

In that case, simscan isn't working on my box. I have no headers 
inserted. I'm not really sure why. I started out with a qmailtoaster.com 
install and then followed the instructions on the page below to install 
simscan:

http://www.shupp.org/toaster/#simscan
Do I need to do something else? Or is the qmailtoaster.com setup 
incompatible with B.Schupp's setup?

Thanks,
Nick...
Alex wrote:
If you look into e-mail details (header) you should be able to see if
simscan is called. Here is an example of your e-mail I have recieved from
toaster mailing list:
Received: (qmail 7690 invoked by uid 89); 3 May 2005 22:00:46 -
Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 7684, pid: 7685, t: 0.3201s
scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.83/m:31/d:858 spam: 3.0.2
Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.russianeast.com) (172.30.100.1)
by 0 with SMTP; 3 May 2005 22:00:46 -
Received-SPF: none (0: domain at shupp.org does not designate permitted
sender hosts)
Received: from [67.43.175.66] (helo=mail.merchbox.com)
by mail1.russianeast.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30)
id 1DT5Re-0002Hp-7R
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 03 May 2005 18:00:46 -0400
Received: (qmail 5380 invoked by uid 530); 3 May 2005 22:00:37 -
Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Unsubscribe: 
List-Subscribe: 
Reply-To: toaster@shupp.org
Delivered-To: mailing list toaster@shupp.org
Received: (qmail 5374 invoked by uid 530); 3 May 2005 22:00:37 -
Received-SPF: none (0: domain at nickgilbert.com does not designate
permitted sender hosts)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:00:28 +0100
From: Nick Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: toaster@shupp.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: [toaster] simscan query
X-Scan-Signature: c03760373adc782a8412eea9d6045da1
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on
mail1.russianeast.com
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled
version=3.0.2
As you can see on second line its clearly stating that simscan was called.
Alex

Hi,
How do I verify that simscan is actually running and working? I've
installed it and configured it (I think!) but I'm not sure how to verify
that it's actually being called. Can someone please give me some
pointers how I can verify my setup.
Thanks,
Nick...



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Re: [toaster] simscan query

[Alex]

Sorry, not sure abot that one ... I have used Bill's toaster on a new
server install and everything works as it should ...
Maybe someone else with more knowledge can shed some light for you ...


> In that case, simscan isn't working on my box. I have no headers
> inserted. I'm not really sure why. I started out with a qmailtoaster.com
> install and then followed the instructions on the page below to install
> simscan:
>
> http://www.shupp.org/toaster/#simscan
>
> Do I need to do something else? Or is the qmailtoaster.com setup
> incompatible with B.Schupp's setup?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick...
>
> Alex wrote:
>> If you look into e-mail details (header) you should be able to see if
>> simscan is called. Here is an example of your e-mail I have recieved
>> from
>> toaster mailing list:
>>
>> Received: (qmail 7690 invoked by uid 89); 3 May 2005 22:00:46 -
>> Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 7684, pid: 7685, t: 0.3201s
>> scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.83/m:31/d:858 spam: 3.0.2
>> Received: from unknown (HELO mail1.russianeast.com) (172.30.100.1)
>> by 0 with SMTP; 3 May 2005 22:00:46 -
>> Received-SPF: none (0: domain at shupp.org does not designate permitted
>> sender hosts)
>> Received: from [67.43.175.66] (helo=mail.merchbox.com)
>> by mail1.russianeast.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30)
>> id 1DT5Re-0002Hp-7R
>> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tue, 03 May 2005 18:00:46 -0400
>> Received: (qmail 5380 invoked by uid 530); 3 May 2005 22:00:37 -
>> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
>> Precedence: bulk
>> List-Post: 
>> List-Help: 
>> List-Unsubscribe: 
>> List-Subscribe: 
>> Reply-To: toaster@shupp.org
>> Delivered-To: mailing list toaster@shupp.org
>> Received: (qmail 5374 invoked by uid 530); 3 May 2005 22:00:37 -
>> Received-SPF: none (0: domain at nickgilbert.com does not designate
>> permitted sender hosts)
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:00:28 +0100
>> From: Nick Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206)
>> X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> To: toaster@shupp.org
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> Subject: [toaster] simscan query
>> X-Scan-Signature: c03760373adc782a8412eea9d6045da1
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on
>> mail1.russianeast.com
>> X-Spam-Level:
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled
>> version=3.0.2
>>
>> As you can see on second line its clearly stating that simscan was
>> called.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> 
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>How do I verify that simscan is actually running and working? I've
>>>installed it and configured it (I think!) but I'm not sure how to verify
>>>that it's actually being called. Can someone please give me some
>>>pointers how I can verify my setup.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Nick...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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>> 
>>
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>
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