Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Davey

Remy,

Do you have any thougts on the allowable stability tags?

Projects variously seem to use alpha, beta, RR (restricted release), GA (general 
availability), RC (release candidate) and EA (early access).  Sometimes they use 
'a' and 'b' instead of alpha and beta - I'd really like to see documentation 
that ensures consistency.

Also, what are your thoughts on identifying src, documentation, binary releases 
and combinations thereof?

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-29 Thread Remy Maucherat

 Remy,

 Do you have any thougts on the allowable stability tags?

 Projects variously seem to use alpha, beta, RR (restricted release), GA
(general
 availability), RC (release candidate) and EA (early access).  Sometimes
they use
 'a' and 'b' instead of alpha and beta - I'd really like to see
documentation
 that ensures consistency.

It will use the same conventions as Apache 2. So it is Alpha, Beta and
Stable.

 Also, what are your thoughts on identifying src, documentation, binary
releases
 and combinations thereof?

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Remy


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-25 Thread jean-frederic clere

Remy Maucherat wrote:
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote:


De: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Enviado el: miércoles 24 de abril de 2002 23:41

Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers?

Probably every time the release manager feels the code is stable and
better than the previous build.

I'm +1 on the proposal, with the mention that the 'label' should
be attached _after_ one week or so - i.e. after the milestone is
tested.

Each milestone should work and pass some basic tests.
 
 
 +1.
 Very good policy IMO, as it avoids the need for the release manager to try
 to estimate the stability of the milestone.
 
 If accepted, I'll document the new policy in the release plan.

Do not forget to mention that the dev list MUST be informed in advance of the 
release (2 or 3 days and better not on Friday).

So let's see if we reach a GA before 4.1.35 ;-)

 
 Remy
 
 
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RE: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-25 Thread GOMEZ Henri

For the uninitiated, the numbering is:
major.minor.build build_stability

So for example, the first 4.1.x release would probably be numbered:
Apache Tomcat 4.1.0 Alpha

ballot
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
/ballot

(feel free to provide comments to justify your choice)

+1, we have choosen that numbering for mod_jk in jtc ;)

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-25 Thread Remy Maucherat

 Do not forget to mention that the dev list MUST be informed in advance of
the
 release (2 or 3 days and better not on Friday).

Ok. So, according to the old release plan, a first milestone (4.1.0, instead
of being called 4.1 Beta 1) will be released (tagged) this friday.
Since it can be difficult to build binaries, I'll upload one in:
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/test/v4.1.0

I'm fixing the release plan, and I have some trouble explaining how the
Apache 2 build numbering scheme an release process works. Feel free to fix
it in the document.

 So let's see if we reach a GA before 4.1.35 ;-)

Lol.

Remy


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ballot
 [X] Yes
 [ ] No
 /ballot

Big time...

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-25 Thread Pier Fumagalli

[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote:
 
 De: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Enviado el: miércoles 24 de abril de 2002 23:41
 
 Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers?
 
 Probably every time the release manager feels the code is stable and
 better than the previous build.
 
 I'm +1 on the proposal, with the mention that the 'label' should
 be attached _after_ one week or so - i.e. after the milestone is
 tested. 
 
 Each milestone should work and pass some basic tests.

Agreed... The stability label can be attached and changed over time... For
new releases, they all should come out as Alhpha unless the code is solid
Beta stage is assigned after internal/committer tests, and GA (Generally
Avaliable) is only when we get feedback from users saying it works...

Pier

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RE: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread Ignacio J. Ortega

 De: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Enviado el: miércoles 24 de abril de 2002 23:41

Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers? 

Saludos ,
Ignacio J. Ortega

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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread Remy Maucherat

 Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers?

The method in httpd land seems to be once every 1-2 weeks, as long as there
are significant changes. Sometimes, one major change (minor security fix or
higher priority fix) is enough to cause a build number advance.

Remy


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread Amy Roh

I like the idea.  +1 for me.

Amy

Remy Maucherat wrote:

 Costin has suggested to me in a private email that the Tomcat project could
 adopt the Apache 2 numbering scheme (starting with Apache Tomcat 4.1).
 I think this is a good idea.

 For the uninitiated, the numbering is:
 major.minor.build build_stability

 So for example, the first 4.1.x release would probably be numbered:
 Apache Tomcat 4.1.0 Alpha

 ballot
 [ ] Yes
 [ ] No
 /ballot

 (feel free to provide comments to justify your choice)

 I vote yes.

 If the opinion is that this is a good idea, I'll revise the release plan for
 4.1 to reflect this change.

 Remy

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RE: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread costinm

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote:

  De: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Enviado el: miércoles 24 de abril de 2002 23:41
 
 Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers? 

Probably every time the release manager feels the code is stable and 
better than the previous build.

I'm +1 on the proposal, with the mention that the 'label' should
be attached _after_ one week or so - i.e. after the milestone is 
tested. 

Each milestone should work and pass some basic tests. 


Costin


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread Remy Maucherat

 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Ignacio J. Ortega wrote:

   De: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Enviado el: miércoles 24 de abril de 2002 23:41
 
  Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers?

 Probably every time the release manager feels the code is stable and
 better than the previous build.

 I'm +1 on the proposal, with the mention that the 'label' should
 be attached _after_ one week or so - i.e. after the milestone is
 tested.

 Each milestone should work and pass some basic tests.

+1.
Very good policy IMO, as it avoids the need for the release manager to try
to estimate the stability of the milestone.

If accepted, I'll document the new policy in the release plan.

Remy


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Remy Maucherat wrote:

 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 14:59:45 -0700
 From: Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

  Which will be the rules to advance the build numbers?

 The method in httpd land seems to be once every 1-2 weeks, as long as there
 are significant changes. Sometimes, one major change (minor security fix or
 higher priority fix) is enough to cause a build number advance.


Remy is too modest to point out that he's used this approach on the Slide
project as well (http://jakarta.apache.org/slide and it seems to work
quite nicely.

+1

 Remy


Craig


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New version numbering scheme

2002-04-24 Thread Bojan Smojver

On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 07:41, Remy Maucherat wrote:
 
 ballot
 [X] Yes
 [ ] No
 /ballot

I actually like the Linux style, with odd minor numbers for unstable
releases and even for stable ones, but this is not bad too.

Bojan


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