Re: Welcome to the Tomcat 4.0 F.A.Q. on-line forum.

2001-11-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli

Bill Barker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I know that Jon has already pointed out that Sun is going to sue the 3.x
 branch out of Jakarta in five months,

I don't think Jon said that, and as a Sun employee I can guarantee that
Tomcat 3.x remains one of our strongholds AND the official servlet 2.2
container / jsp 1.1 engine used in the J2EE reference implementation.

Probably most of the people from Sun you see on the mailing list are more
connected with 4.0 as we're developing for the new release(s) of the spec,
but 3.x is still one of our major focuses in terms of integration.

 but is there any chance of setting this up in the mean time for 3.x?

Why don't you _look_ before sending emails? It has been there together with
the 4.0 forum since the beginning... I just posted _my_ welcome in the 4.0
forum since it's _there_ that I'm involved :)

Pier


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Re: Welcome to the Tomcat 4.0 F.A.Q. on-line forum.

2001-11-01 Thread Bojan Smojver

Quoting Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Bill Barker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I know that Jon has already pointed out that Sun is going to sue the
 3.x
  branch out of Jakarta in five months,
 
 I don't think Jon said that, and as a Sun employee I can guarantee
 that
 Tomcat 3.x remains one of our strongholds AND the official servlet 2.2
 container / jsp 1.1 engine used in the J2EE reference implementation.
 
 Probably most of the people from Sun you see on the mailing list are
 more
 connected with 4.0 as we're developing for the new release(s) of the
 spec,
 but 3.x is still one of our major focuses in terms of integration.

Pier  Craig (and other Sun people out there), would you guys be able to grab
one of your company lawyers for 5 minutes to ask about the TC 3.x license expiry
issue (that was the issue what Jon pointed out, I believe). It would be nice to
know the official version of the license interpretation.

Bojan

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Re: Welcome to the Tomcat 4.0 F.A.Q. on-line forum.

2001-10-31 Thread Bill Barker

I know that Jon has already pointed out that Sun is going to sue the 3.x
branch out of Jakarta in five months, but is there any chance of setting
this up in the mean time for 3.x?
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From: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 FYI

 Pier

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 Subject: Welcome to the Tomcat 4.0 F.A.Q. on-line forum.

 In the effort of better managing our resources Apache wide, and
specifically
 in our case in the scope of the Jakarta project, here is a little new
 addition to our set of tools. A web-based forum system.

 Some of you have asked why do we need a forum, aren't our mailing lists
 enough to support our needs? My reply is simple, we need both.

 The on-line forum, first of all, allows you do a couple of nifty things
that
 people asked: search messages in an intelligent way (our mail archives
 already do so, but most of the time, the precision of their search engine
is
 not, well, the best you can get).

 Plus, each question there is organized and threaded better than any Email
 client can do (there is a big discussion about how to interpret the
 In-Reply-To header, and some popular email clients forget to include it
in
 messages), and the topics are way more visible than on a mailing list with
 an average of more than 200 messages a day.

 There are some more features, like: wouldn't it be nice to be able to be
 notified and receive replies only to MY particular question, avoiding all
 the other hundreds of emails that flow daily to your mail client? Well, a
 web forum allows you to do that, you can create a thread, the one with
your
 little particular problem, and watch it, being notified via email about
 what replies I got only to my problem. Or looking and being notified about
 that little problem I had and was reported by another guy... All that can
be
 done only thru a well-managed forum, and the current internet-mail system
is
 not sufficient to achieve that.

 And PLUS, every message you send thru the web-forum is actually mirrored
 on our mailing list (I'm still figuring out how to do the opposite, but
 given enough brainpower -which I don't have at the moment - I'm sure I can
 do that!), so everyone will see it (nope, you won't loose visibility, and
 you don't have to post your messages twice).

 I just a couple of little favors to ask you all. If you see a message
coming
 from the web-forum (and you will recognize it by the lines at the bottom
of
 the message, take this one for example), and you want to reply, don't
simply
 hit reply on your client, but instead click on the link at the bottom,
and
 respond on-line. Your message will be archieved, stored, and you won't
have
 to reply to the same question anymore. And if you want to reply to someone
 on the list, before doing so, check whether the same question has already
 been answered on the forum. The more we use it now, the less we'll have to
 use it in the future.

 Last little question, please, if you see something wrong or offensive on
the
 forum, please notify mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], and we'll be
 able to remove it...

 Thanks for listening...

 Pier

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