Re: Why is JDK needed to install Apache Tomcat 4.0 on WinNT?

[Bojan Smojver]

On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 02:37, Duncan McLean wrote:

>   * Beginning October 17, 2001, it is permissable to redistribute  *
>   * the "javac" compiler with the Java 2 Runtime Environment (JRE).*

Which gives permission to JRE packagers like IBM to include javac in the
JRE. Most JRE's still don't have it included, so I'm guessing Tomcat is
playing it safe here. Does that answer your question or did I misread
something?

Bojan


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Re: Why is JDK needed to install Apache Tomcat 4.0 on WinNT?

[Duncan McLean]

Here is the text from the readme.txt in the jre directory of an sdk install for 
java 1.3.1_003:

  *
  *   Notice of New Redistribution Options *
  **
  * Beginning October 17, 2001, it is permissable to redistribute  *
  * the "javac" compiler with the Java 2 Runtime Environment (JRE).*
  * See the Sun Binary Code License and this README for terms  *
  * and conditions.  Items that have been added to the section *
  * in this README entitled "Redistribution of Java 2 SDK files"   *
  * are:   *
  **
  * bin/javac.exe  (Microsoft Windows) *
  * bin/javac and bin/i386/native_threads/javac (Linux and Solaris IA) *
  * bin/javac and bin/sparc/native_threads/javac  (Solaris SPARC)  *
  * lib/tools.jar  (all platforms) *
  **
  * These files include the Java 2 SDK tools classes, including*
  * the classes for the "javac" compiler.  *
  **
  * Additionally, on Microsoft Windows platforms it is now *
  * permissible to redistribute the Java HotSpot Server VM (also   *
  * known as "C2") with the Microsoft Windows version of the   *
  * JRE. (C2 is already included with the JREs for Linux and the   *
  * Solaris(TM) operating environment.)  Items that have been added*
  * to the section on "Redistribution of Java 2 SDK files" are:*
  **
  * jre/bin/server/jvm.dll *
  * jre/bin/server/Xusage.txt  *
  **
  **


Bojan Smojver wrote:

> Not sure, to be perfectly honest. Maybe some of the other developer can
> answer that properly.
> 
> Bojan
> 
> On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 23:50, Duncan McLean wrote:
> 
>>Didn't Sun recently (with-in the last few months) free up the license on 
>>tool.jar? It was my understanding that that jar file was the reason that you 
>>need a jdk instead of a jre (for the compiler housed in tools.jar that is). I'm 
>>not sure about the specifics of the license now, but couldn't tools.jar just be 
>>put into the installer so a jre would be sufficient?
>>
>>Bojan Smojver wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Maybe because TC compiles JSP's into classes and it needs javac for that, which
>>>is probably not part of the JRE.
>>>
>>>Bojan
>>>
>>>Quoting "Kiran Kumar N (RBIN/DCA-NMS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>
I am trying to create a setup an application of mine for distribution 
among my associates. But during the installation of Tomcat 4.0, it
initially

checks if JDK is installed and if not, it exits the installation. 

Why does it need the JDK? All my target PCs have JREs installed. What
should
be 
done to disable this check in Tomcat Setup. I am in need of a solution
to
this urgently.
Please help.

Thanks and Best Regards,
nKiran


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Re: Why is JDK needed to install Apache Tomcat 4.0 on WinNT?

[Bojan Smojver]

Not sure, to be perfectly honest. Maybe some of the other developer can
answer that properly.

Bojan

On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 23:50, Duncan McLean wrote:
> Didn't Sun recently (with-in the last few months) free up the license on 
> tool.jar? It was my understanding that that jar file was the reason that you 
> need a jdk instead of a jre (for the compiler housed in tools.jar that is). I'm 
> not sure about the specifics of the license now, but couldn't tools.jar just be 
> put into the installer so a jre would be sufficient?
> 
> Bojan Smojver wrote:
> 
> > Maybe because TC compiles JSP's into classes and it needs javac for that, which
> > is probably not part of the JRE.
> > 
> > Bojan
> > 
> > Quoting "Kiran Kumar N (RBIN/DCA-NMS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > 
> >>I am trying to create a setup an application of mine for distribution 
> >>among my associates. But during the installation of Tomcat 4.0, it
> >>initially
> >>
> >>checks if JDK is installed and if not, it exits the installation. 
> >>
> >>Why does it need the JDK? All my target PCs have JREs installed. What
> >>should
> >>be 
> >>done to disable this check in Tomcat Setup. I am in need of a solution
> >>to
> >>this urgently.
> >>Please help.
> >>
> >>Thanks and Best Regards,
> >>nKiran
> >>
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Re: Why is JDK needed to install Apache Tomcat 4.0 on WinNT?

[Duncan McLean]

Didn't Sun recently (with-in the last few months) free up the license on 
tool.jar? It was my understanding that that jar file was the reason that you 
need a jdk instead of a jre (for the compiler housed in tools.jar that is). I'm 
not sure about the specifics of the license now, but couldn't tools.jar just be 
put into the installer so a jre would be sufficient?

Bojan Smojver wrote:

> Maybe because TC compiles JSP's into classes and it needs javac for that, which
> is probably not part of the JRE.
> 
> Bojan
> 
> Quoting "Kiran Kumar N (RBIN/DCA-NMS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
>>I am trying to create a setup an application of mine for distribution 
>>among my associates. But during the installation of Tomcat 4.0, it
>>initially
>>
>>checks if JDK is installed and if not, it exits the installation. 
>>
>>Why does it need the JDK? All my target PCs have JREs installed. What
>>should
>>be 
>>done to disable this check in Tomcat Setup. I am in need of a solution
>>to
>>this urgently.
>>Please help.
>>
>>Thanks and Best Regards,
>>nKiran
>>
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Re: Why is JDK needed to install Apache Tomcat 4.0 on WinNT?

[Bojan Smojver]

Maybe because TC compiles JSP's into classes and it needs javac for that, which
is probably not part of the JRE.

Bojan

Quoting "Kiran Kumar N (RBIN/DCA-NMS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I am trying to create a setup an application of mine for distribution 
> among my associates. But during the installation of Tomcat 4.0, it
> initially
> 
> checks if JDK is installed and if not, it exits the installation. 
> 
> Why does it need the JDK? All my target PCs have JREs installed. What
> should
> be 
> done to disable this check in Tomcat Setup. I am in need of a solution
> to
> this urgently.
> Please help.
> 
> Thanks and Best Regards,
> nKiran
> 
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Why is JDK needed to install Apache Tomcat 4.0 on WinNT?

[Kiran Kumar N (RBIN/DCA-NMS)]

I am trying to create a setup an application of mine for distribution 
among my associates. But during the installation of Tomcat 4.0, it initially

checks if JDK is installed and if not, it exits the installation. 

Why does it need the JDK? All my target PCs have JREs installed. What should
be 
done to disable this check in Tomcat Setup. I am in need of a solution to
this urgently.
Please help.

Thanks and Best Regards,
nKiran


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