[OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Antony paul
Hello,
I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which one
is right ?. Or any other forms ?

Antony Paul.

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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Timothy Stone
John Turner wrote:

Sheesh...that wasn't the poster's point.  The point was:  the 
pronunciation is the same as the pronunciation of Apache when the 
context is a Native American people.

John

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Apache has NOTHING to do with indigenous American people.
It stands for a patchy software.
Let's set the record straight here and turn to the source for 
information, the Apache Software Foundation (ASF). ASF states that the 
Apache webserver is indeed, first and foremost, named out of respect for 
indigenous American people:

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ.html#name

The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American 
Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in 
warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information 
on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or 
AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a 
considered cute name which stuck. Apache is 'A PAtCHy server'. It was 
based on some existing code and a series of 'patch files'.

Check your sources folks. While the more popular A PAtCHy server is 
legendary, it is incorrectly attributed as the reason for the server's name.

And in closing John is right, I don't think that the original poster was 
looking for a thread on the geneology of the name given to the leading 
HTTPD server, but for the correct pronunciation. M-W.com has the following:

-'pa-chE

For more information on pronunciation, see http://www.m-w.com/pronguid2.htm

Tim

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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Timothy Stone
Madere, Colin wrote:

Anyone smell revisionist history? :P

Who's revising history?

I first heard the A PAtCHy server story in a course on implementing 
web security. I found it humorous, but recall thinking at the time that 
I had read elsewhere that it was definitively named for the native 
American people. (A PAtCHy server does not account for the feather, a 
traditional, albeit stereotyping, symbol of Native Americans.) Thus I'm 
inclined to believe the ASF story at face rather than ascribe conspiracy 
theories to it.

I think it's clearly stated on the Apache website that A PAtCHy server 
is incorrectly, however popularly, attributed as the reason for the 
name. I can't imagine that ASF is revising their own history. I would 
like to point out that the ASF makes no mention of the name's origin in 
the official history of Apache 
(http://httpd.apache.org/ABOUT_APACHE.html), though a number of 
references to patches are made.

Anyway, isn't this a topic for the Apache Users List? :P

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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread John Turner
Sheesh...that wasn't the poster's point.  The point was:  the 
pronunciation is the same as the pronunciation of Apache when the 
context is a Native American people.

John

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Apache has NOTHING to do with indigenous American people.
It stands for a patchy software.
Eugene Lee wrote:

On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:49:52PM +0530, Antony paul wrote:
:
: I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
: pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which one
: is right ?. Or any other forms ?
If we're talking about the web server, look at the pronunciation given
for the definition of A Native American people.
--
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http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
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RE: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Yiannis Mavroukakis
Yes, if memory serves me right the server name was a wordplay on A patchy
server :)

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Ah-patch-ee?

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On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:49:52PM +0530, Antony paul wrote:
: 
: I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
: pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which
one
: is right ?. Or any other forms ?

If we're talking about the web server, look at the pronunciation given
for the definition of A Native American people.


-- 
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http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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RE: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Madere, Colin
Anyone smell revisionist history? :P

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John Turner wrote:

 
 Sheesh...that wasn't the poster's point.  The point was:  the
 pronunciation is the same as the pronunciation of Apache when the 
 context is a Native American people.
 
 John
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Apache has NOTHING to do with indigenous American people.
 It stands for a patchy software.

Let's set the record straight here and turn to the source for 
information, the Apache Software Foundation (ASF). ASF states that the 
Apache webserver is indeed, first and foremost, named out of respect for 
indigenous American people:

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/FAQ.html#name

The name 'Apache' was chosen from respect for the Native American 
Indian tribe of Apache (Indé), well-known for their superior skills in 
warfare strategy and their inexhaustible endurance. For more information 
on the Apache Nation, we suggest searching Google, Northernlight, or 
AllTheWeb.

Secondarily, and more popularly (though incorrectly) accepted, it's a 
considered cute name which stuck. Apache is 'A PAtCHy server'. It was 
based on some existing code and a series of 'patch files'.

Check your sources folks. While the more popular A PAtCHy server is 
legendary, it is incorrectly attributed as the reason for the server's name.

And in closing John is right, I don't think that the original poster was 
looking for a thread on the geneology of the name given to the leading 
HTTPD server, but for the correct pronunciation. M-W.com has the following:

-'pa-chE

For more information on pronunciation, see http://www.m-w.com/pronguid2.htm

Tim


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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread achana
Apache has NOTHING to do with indigenous American people.
It stands for a patchy software.


Eugene Lee wrote:
 
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:49:52PM +0530, Antony paul wrote:
 :
 : I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
 : pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which one
 : is right ?. Or any other forms ?
 
 If we're talking about the web server, look at the pronunciation given
 for the definition of A Native American people.
 
 --
 Eugene Lee
 http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
 
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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Nikola Milutinovic
 Apache has NOTHING to do with indigenous American people.
 It stands for a patchy software.

If that's a pun, it's a bit out of place. If it's a joke, so be it. If it is an 
oppinion, then you got something mixed up - what's the feather on the web site for?

Nix.


RE: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-14 Thread Zille Hassan
Sorry No offense 
But arent you a perfectionist ??


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Hello,
I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found
two pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache
which one is right ?. Or any other forms ?

Antony Paul.

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RE: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-11 Thread Stuart MacPherson
Ah-patch-ee?

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On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:49:52PM +0530, Antony paul wrote:
: 
: I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
: pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which
one
: is right ?. Or any other forms ?

If we're talking about the web server, look at the pronunciation given
for the definition of A Native American people.


-- 
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http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-11 Thread Eugene Lee
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:49:52PM +0530, Antony paul wrote:
: 
: I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
: pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which one
: is right ?. Or any other forms ?

If we're talking about the web server, look at the pronunciation given
for the definition of A Native American people.


-- 
Eugene Lee
http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

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Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

2003-08-11 Thread Rick Roberts
It's true.  The name comes from A PatCHy server.

It was first developed as a series of patches to the NCSA (National Center for 
Supercomputer Applications) httpd 1.3 web server, and was informally named A 
PatCHy server. The first stable release, V1.0, was released on 1 December, 
1995. This was essentially the NCSA 1.3 server with a number of fixes and 
enhancements.

http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_1284.html

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Yiannis Mavroukakis wrote:
Yes, if memory serves me right the server name was a wordplay on A patchy
server :)
-Original Message-
From: Stuart MacPherson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?
Ah-patch-ee?

-Original Message-
From: Eugene Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 August 2003 10:23
To: tomcat mail list
Subject: Re: [OT] how to pronounce Apache ?

On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 02:49:52PM +0530, Antony paul wrote:
: 
: I would like to know how to pronoune Apache in US English. I found two
: pronounciations at http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=apache which
one
: is right ?. Or any other forms ?

If we're talking about the web server, look at the pronunciation given
for the definition of A Native American people.


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