RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I use both Websphere Studio Application Developer (based on Eclipse) and Dreamweaver MX together. WSAD has great Java authoring, CVS/database support and automatic WAR generation so I use it for Model/Controller development, and I use Dreamweaver to develop Views (JSP) and use the SSH publishing for incremental testing on Tomcat. I Develop on Win2K (workstation and laptop kept in sync through WSAD and CVS) and host Tomcat, CVS and MySQL on Linux. Works beautifully. James -Original Message- From: Timothy Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 June 2002 06:40 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
-Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 June 2002 19:14 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. Any features lacking from the freebie-version of JBuilder could probably be replaced by Ant? Personally, I use the Enterprise Edition of JBuilder, but rarely use most of its built-in functionality - I let Ant take care of that. Best wishes John There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -- John Niven Please reply through mailing list -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
Has anybody used Visual Café 4.5.2? We just bough the expert edition and it's total crap. Cannot get it to do remote debugging... Cannot compile Tomcat code with internal JDK 1.3.0_1 (Says it cannot locate main in Bootstrap.class ??) Works with JDK 1.2.2 (internal) Using external JDK works but needs a week to run Tomcat If anybody has any ideas about these types of problems with Café or have a solution let me know... Donie -Original Message- From: John Niven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: June 14, 2002 10:48 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 June 2002 19:14 To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. Any features lacking from the freebie-version of JBuilder could probably be replaced by Ant? Personally, I use the Enterprise Edition of JBuilder, but rarely use most of its built-in functionality - I let Ant take care of that. Best wishes John There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -- John Niven Please reply through mailing list -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I agree. You don't need $3000 IDEs. I use UltraEdit + JSwat + Ant + WinCVS. Total cost: $30. Make sure to take advantage of the configurable tools in your editor, if it has any. I can launch Tomcat, Postgres, JUnit, and compile, run, clean, you name it all from within UltraEdit. Some of my coworkers like JBuilder but they seem to struggle with it sometimes because you have to do everything the JBuilder way. I do everything the John way. Total cost: priceless. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. org]On Behalf Of Joel Sather Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Personally, I don't need code completion and stuff so I just use a simple editor and then ANT to do the builds. I need to deploy on a different machine so I just check the file into CVS and run ANT on the server (does the pull from CVS and then compiles into my JAR). Once the build and deployment are done, if you have Tomcat setup right it recognizes the new JAR has been uploaded. Very slick. Anyway, it really depends on which features you need from your IDE. I can do everything I need with ANT and vi if I have to now. :) -J Joel Sather email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 651-917-4719 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The John way rocks. :) John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: John Gregg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I agree. You don't need $3000 IDEs. I use UltraEdit + JSwat + Ant + WinCVS. Total cost: $30. Make sure to take advantage of the configurable tools in your editor, if it has any. I can launch Tomcat, Postgres, JUnit, and compile, run, clean, you name it all from within UltraEdit. Some of my coworkers like JBuilder but they seem to struggle with it sometimes because you have to do everything the JBuilder way. I do everything the John way. Total cost: priceless. john
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
Or you could just download netbeans. It's free. CVS integration, JPDA debugger, ant integration. Total cost: nada, nothing, zilch, zippo. Am I glad it is friday. ;-) Larry [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/14/02 07:46 AM I agree. You don't need $3000 IDEs. I use UltraEdit + JSwat + Ant + WinCVS. Total cost: $30. Make sure to take advantage of the configurable tools in your editor, if it has any. I can launch Tomcat, Postgres, JUnit, and compile, run, clean, you name it all from within UltraEdit. Some of my coworkers like JBuilder but they seem to struggle with it sometimes because you have to do everything the JBuilder way. I do everything the John way. Total cost: priceless. john -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. org]On Behalf Of Joel Sather Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Personally, I don't need code completion and stuff so I just use a simple editor and then ANT to do the builds. I need to deploy on a different machine so I just check the file into CVS and run ANT on the server (does the pull from CVS and then compiles into my JAR). Once the build and deployment are done, if you have Tomcat setup right it recognizes the new JAR has been uploaded. Very slick. Anyway, it really depends on which features you need from your IDE. I can do everything I need with ANT and vi if I have to now. :) -J Joel Sather email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 651-917-4719 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I use Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) which has very cool support for refactoring: I use Struts so I do more bean coding than HTML editing and I do need support for refactoring sometimes. Also it has wonderful integration with Junit: I can actually test my servlets from the IDE. The Tomcat plugin will even edit your server.xml file (if you allow that) and the context for your app. The downside is that it uses huge amounts of memory (need at least 256MB) and has a fairly steep learning curve at the beginning. No support for ssh... And if you want to be able to start and stop Tomcat from the IDE Tomcat must be on localhost. If you do all of your stuff inside jsps (no servlets) then DreamWeaver MX could be a good pick too. HTH, umberto Cindy Ballreich wrote: I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Umberto Nicoletti - [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel. 049-8239380 (assistenza) We'll try to make different mistakes this time. - Larry Wall -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
Umberto Nicoletti wrote: I use Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) which has very cool support for refactoring: I use Struts so I do more bean coding than HTML editing and I do need support for refactoring sometimes. Also it has wonderful integration with Junit: I can actually test my servlets from the IDE. The Tomcat plugin will even edit your server.xml file (if you allow that) and the context for your app. The downside is that it uses huge amounts of memory (need at least 256MB) and has a fairly steep learning curve at the beginning. No support for ssh... And if you want to be able to start and stop Tomcat from the IDE Tomcat must be on localhost. If you do all of your stuff inside jsps (no servlets) then DreamWeaver MX could be a good pick too. HTH, umberto Cindy Ballreich wrote: I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try using Nedit, It has syntax highlighting for just about everything and macros for compiling and other little features. It;s available as an rpm or source from any Linux site. If you have to use NT though, try and using Ultra Edit. I think it costs $30 bucks. Dave H
Re: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I'm using Forte 4, which is now called Sun ONE Studio 4. I'm liking the new version a lot. It has better integration with Tomcat now. Plus, it has Tomcat 4. Functionality and response wise it seem to of improved. I've been using Forte, and now Sun ONE Studio 4, for about six months or so to develop servlets. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've been a bit wary of Forte due to the whole bundling of Tomcat thing. Which version of Tomcat 4 is it? Is it a full version? Does it work with JDK1.4? And does it interfere at all with a standard installation of Tomcat 4? Thank you, Liam Morley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Forte 4, which is now called Sun ONE Studio 4. I'm liking the new version a lot. It has better integration with Tomcat now. Plus, it has Tomcat 4. Functionality and response wise it seem to of improved. I've been using Forte, and now Sun ONE Studio 4, for about six months or so to develop servlets. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
Howdy, jEdit. IntelliJ IDEA. Eclipse. I like them in that order (jEdit best), but I like them all more than Forte/SunONE ;) It's all about personal preferences, though, so whatever tickles your fancy. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Liam Morley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I've been a bit wary of Forte due to the whole bundling of Tomcat thing. Which version of Tomcat 4 is it? Is it a full version? Does it work with JDK1.4? And does it interfere at all with a standard installation of Tomcat 4? Thank you, Liam Morley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using Forte 4, which is now called Sun ONE Studio 4. I'm liking the new version a lot. It has better integration with Tomcat now. Plus, it has Tomcat 4. Functionality and response wise it seem to of improved. I've been using Forte, and now Sun ONE Studio 4, for about six months or so to develop servlets. Thank You, Justin A. Stanczak Web Manager Shake Learning Resource Center Vincennes University (812)888-5813 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I thnk you'd like JEdit better than UltraEdit, and its free. Tim --- David Hladky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umberto Nicoletti wrote: I use Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) which has very cool support for refactoring: I use Struts so I do more bean coding than HTML editing and I do need support for refactoring sometimes. Also it has wonderful integration with Junit: I can actually test my servlets from the IDE. The Tomcat plugin will even edit your server.xml file (if you allow that) and the context for your app. The downside is that it uses huge amounts of memory (need at least 256MB) and has a fairly steep learning curve at the beginning. No support for ssh... And if you want to be able to start and stop Tomcat from the IDE Tomcat must be on localhost. If you do all of your stuff inside jsps (no servlets) then DreamWeaver MX could be a good pick too. HTH, umberto Cindy Ballreich wrote: I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try using Nedit, It has syntax highlighting for just about everything and macros for compiling and other little features. It;s available as an rpm or source from any Linux site. If you have to use NT though, try and using Ultra Edit. I think it costs $30 bucks. Dave H __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I was using JDeveloper for a while and it isn't too bad. I had an old copy (3.2 something), so I haven't played with the latest version. It is pretty big (250+ M), but at least the version I had was native under Windows. I tried NetBeans and it was just too slow. It has a ton of great features (ANT support, CVS, Tomcat integration), but unless you have a good machine it might not be worth it. It was very slow on my 1Ghz laptop w/ 128M of memory. You might also try Forte from Sun which is their version of NetBeans. Personally, I don't need code completion and stuff so I just use a simple editor and then ANT to do the builds. I need to deploy on a different machine so I just check the file into CVS and run ANT on the server (does the pull from CVS and then compiles into my JAR). Once the build and deployment are done, if you have Tomcat setup right it recognizes the new JAR has been uploaded. Very slick. Software Development Magazine (free subscriptions, but I can't remember the URL at the moment) just did their Jolt awards and I think IDEA took the top spot. They also liked JBuilder (or Borland), though. Isn't JBuilder what JDeveloper is based off of? I can't remember, but I thought Oracle just licensed someone's IDE. Anyway, it really depends on which features you need from your IDE. I can do everything I need with ANT and vi if I have to now. :) -J Joel Sather email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 651-917-4719 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/02 01:28PM what about jdeveloper from oracle, is it any good? -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
If you haven't used IDEA from IntelliJ please give it a shot. It's truly amazing (BTW, I don't work for them), providing a great set of refactoring capabilities combined with a very useable interface. And it's written in Java, which is very inspiring. -Original Message- From: Joel Sather [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was using JDeveloper for a while and it isn't too bad. I had an old copy (3.2 something), so I haven't played with the latest version. It is pretty big (250+ M), but at least the version I had was native under Windows. I tried NetBeans and it was just too slow. It has a ton of great features (ANT support, CVS, Tomcat integration), but unless you have a good machine it might not be worth it. It was very slow on my 1Ghz laptop w/ 128M of memory. You might also try Forte from Sun which is their version of NetBeans. Personally, I don't need code completion and stuff so I just use a simple editor and then ANT to do the builds. I need to deploy on a different machine so I just check the file into CVS and run ANT on the server (does the pull from CVS and then compiles into my JAR). Once the build and deployment are done, if you have Tomcat setup right it recognizes the new JAR has been uploaded. Very slick. Software Development Magazine (free subscriptions, but I can't remember the URL at the moment) just did their Jolt awards and I think IDEA took the top spot. They also liked JBuilder (or Borland), though. Isn't JBuilder what JDeveloper is based off of? I can't remember, but I thought Oracle just licensed someone's IDE. Anyway, it really depends on which features you need from your IDE. I can do everything I need with ANT and vi if I have to now. :) -J Joel Sather email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 651-917-4719 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/02 01:28PM what about jdeveloper from oracle, is it any good? -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Cindy: I've had fairly good experience using xemacs (http://xemacs.org/) and Ant (http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/index.html). Xemacs comes with syntax-highlighting and Java development modes (class wizards, etc). Setup xemac's compile command to invoke Ant, and you've got a not-bad IDE, if you ask me (They'll both run under NT as well). For developing on Linux, you could probably keep using ssh windows, or setup Cygwin/XFree86 for X-Windows access (I've found this works pretty well also, except that Swing GUI's over X don't give very good performance. For server-side development, though, it's fine). Cheers, Greg Trasuk, President StratusCom Manufacturing Systems Inc. - We use information technology to solve business problems on your plant floor. http://stratuscom.ca -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: June 13, 2002 14:05 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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what about jdeveloper from oracle, is it any good? JDeveloper is awesome. I used the beta version, it was the best java ide I've ever used. Then the final version shipped and it was so slow I switched to sun Forte. I tried JDeveloper on both Linux and Win and in both cases it was slow, too slow. Post back to the group if you are able to get it to work for you. As soon as the speed issue is resolved, I'm switching back to JDeveloper--it has everything JBuilder has plus the Oracle goodies if you are bent on Oracle. ..ed __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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jdeveloper is basically an extended version of jbuilder. Oracle just adds Oracle stuff to it and makes it available. --mikej -=- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Segree, Gareth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:29 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? what about jdeveloper from oracle, is it any good? -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
I like the combination of ANT with JEdit (www.jedit.org). JEdit is an open source code editor written in Java with an extensible framework. There are many great plugins which can be used to make use of it as a Java IDE environment. Timothy Fisher __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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IBM has a new editor called Eclipse. I haven't used it yet but a coworker has. It has a stop and start button for tomcat in it. And when you start a new project it asks you if you want to start a new Project or Tomcat Project. And when you choose the tomcat option it makes an entry in the server.xml for your webapp. Pretty nifty stuff actually. I am a big netbeans fan but this may be a bit better. Gotta hand it to IBM sometimes. And they give it away for free too. Charlie -Original Message- From: Timothy Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:00 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I like the combination of ANT with JEdit (www.jedit.org). JEdit is an open source code editor written in Java with an extensible framework. There are many great plugins which can be used to make use of it as a Java IDE environment. Timothy Fisher __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
We have been using Visual SlickEdit on Linux for a few years now and we really like it. The new version adds support for an integrated Java Debugger. It's very nice, and very reasonably priced at $300.00. It has syntax highlight, IntelliSense, source code control integration, and is customizable in the extreme. It's worth looking at. http://www.slickedit.com/ -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 June, 2002 12:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
But how many of these IDEs work remotely? Those of us who can only make ssh connections to our servers are stuck with emacs and ant... I have tried IntelliJ IDEA and it works over WebDAV (mount the webapp as a drive using WebDrive or similar), but then you have to deal with WebDAV slowness... -August __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat?
Forte is a really good one. It has Tomcat-3.something integrated into it this helps with debugging available for Windows and Linux go to http://java.sun.com/ to download -Original Message- From: Segree, Gareth [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 8:29 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? what about jdeveloper from oracle, is it any good? -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:14 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? Hi - This was just posted earlier today: http://www.netbeans.org/ It looks very promising, but I haven't worked with it. We're using Borland's JBuilder...it seems to be the most neutral of the available options. MSFT's Java IDE isn't current anymore, as far as I know. http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/ I believe the personal edition is free, but it might not have all the features you are looking for. There's also things like MetroWerks CodeWarrior: http://www.metrowerks.com/desktop/java/ HTH John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: Cindy Ballreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 2:05 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: [offtopic] IDE for Tomcat? I was wondering what kind of IDEs people were using for Tomcat development? Any recomendations for someone who's been developing on linux from a NT desktop via ssh? (vi has it's charms, but there's got to be a better way!) Anything to avoid? Thanks Cindy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]