RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread David Muller
Hello all,
Can anyone please confirm or deny rumors that moving from RH8 to RH9 fixes random Sig 
11 crashes when an Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X app is loaded?

We have gone through a huge matrix of heap sizes, stack sizes, connectors, connector 
settings, hyperthreading off, etc. with jvm gcverbose on and still get sig 11's at 
random places when we load our app.  This is with BOTH the IBM 1.4.1 JDK and the Sun 
1.4.2_02 JDK.

We have upgraded RH 8 with the latest OS patches.

If anyone has found this and can point to a specific lib that would be even better.

Thanks,
-Dave

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash


I've seen similar things with Java.

Are all the java related patches for the OS applied.  We recently have a
similar issue with Solaris 2.8 and Java and applying the relevant patches
cured it.

File a bug report with Sun/IBM?

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 15 November 2003 21:38
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
 
 
 Jim Goodspeed wrote:
  Unfortunately we have also tried Sun's JVM and are
  experiencing the same Signal 11 errors (I've included
  two snippets of the Sun error - same error as the IBM
  Sig 11, just in a different format).  Sometimes the
  dump specifies the library in question, other times it
  does not.
  
  Thanks,
  Jim
  
  An unexpected exception has been detected in native
  code outside the VM.
  Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x1
  Function=[Unknown.]
  Library=(N/A)
  
  An unexpected exception has been detected in native
  code outside the VM.
  Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x59DF83B0
  Function=(null)+0x59DF83B0
  Library=/usr/IBMdb2/V7.1/lib/libdb2.so.1
 
 Are you sure that the driver version and fixpack match the 
 server?  DB2 
 can do funny things when this is not the case.  See for example: 
 http://dbforums.com/arch/39/2002/9/515834
 
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Re: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
Dave,

Can anyone please confirm or deny rumors that moving from RH8 to RH9
fixes random Sig 11 crashes when an Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X app is
loaded?
If it happens under load (when the CPU gets hot :) and it's always in a 
different place, then get another server and try again (really). 
Sometimes it's the memory, sometimes it's the CPU, sometimes its both.

We had such problems with 2 out of 6 dual-athlon machines we used for a 
big site. In development, everything was fine. When we released the 
hounds, though, everything went to hell. The same two boxes: sig 11 in 
random places after about 30-45 minutes of load.

I don't believe that upgrading to RH9 will solve your problem, but if 
you're getting desperate, then it can't hurt. I've also noticed that 
most people that have hyperthreading turned on have horrible problems.

-chris



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Re: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread Oscar Carrillo
What's your hardware? Are you running multiple processors?

Do you compile your own Apache2 and mod_jk/mod_jk2?

Have you tried compiling your own kernel from the more recent sources.  
Kernel 2.4 had some shaky releases and RedHat8 fell in the middle of it.  
Kernel 2.4.22 is the latest.

Have you tried setting the environment variable: LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5?

Oscar

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, David Muller wrote:

 Hello all, Can anyone please confirm or deny rumors that moving from RH8
 to RH9 fixes random Sig 11 crashes when an Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X app
 is loaded?
 
 We have gone through a huge matrix of heap sizes, stack sizes,
 connectors, connector settings, hyperthreading off, etc. with jvm
 gcverbose on and still get sig 11's at random places when we load our
 app.  This is with BOTH the IBM 1.4.1 JDK and the Sun 1.4.2_02 JDK.
 
 We have upgraded RH 8 with the latest OS patches.
 
 If anyone has found this and can point to a specific lib that would be
 even better.
 
 Thanks,
 -Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
 
 
 I've seen similar things with Java.
 
 Are all the java related patches for the OS applied.  We recently have a
 similar issue with Solaris 2.8 and Java and applying the relevant patches
 cured it.
 
 File a bug report with Sun/IBM?
 
 Greg
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 15 November 2003 21:38
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
  
  
  Jim Goodspeed wrote:
   Unfortunately we have also tried Sun's JVM and are
   experiencing the same Signal 11 errors (I've included
   two snippets of the Sun error - same error as the IBM
   Sig 11, just in a different format).  Sometimes the
   dump specifies the library in question, other times it
   does not.
   
   Thanks,
   Jim
   
   An unexpected exception has been detected in native
   code outside the VM.
   Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x1
   Function=[Unknown.]
   Library=(N/A)
   
   An unexpected exception has been detected in native
   code outside the VM.
   Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x59DF83B0
   Function=(null)+0x59DF83B0
   Library=/usr/IBMdb2/V7.1/lib/libdb2.so.1
  
  Are you sure that the driver version and fixpack match the 
  server?  DB2 
  can do funny things when this is not the case.  See for example: 
  http://dbforums.com/arch/39/2002/9/515834
  
  Phil
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread Oscar Carrillo
To follow up a little. A great free memory tester is here:

http://www.memtest86.com/

Oscar

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Oscar Carrillo wrote:

 What's your hardware? Are you running multiple processors?
 
 Do you compile your own Apache2 and mod_jk/mod_jk2?
 
 Have you tried compiling your own kernel from the more recent sources.  
 Kernel 2.4 had some shaky releases and RedHat8 fell in the middle of it.  
 Kernel 2.4.22 is the latest.
 
 Have you tried setting the environment variable: LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5?
 
 Oscar
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, David Muller wrote:
 
  Hello all, Can anyone please confirm or deny rumors that moving from RH8
  to RH9 fixes random Sig 11 crashes when an Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X app
  is loaded?
  
  We have gone through a huge matrix of heap sizes, stack sizes,
  connectors, connector settings, hyperthreading off, etc. with jvm
  gcverbose on and still get sig 11's at random places when we load our
  app.  This is with BOTH the IBM 1.4.1 JDK and the Sun 1.4.2_02 JDK.
  
  We have upgraded RH 8 with the latest OS patches.
  
  If anyone has found this and can point to a specific lib that would be
  even better.
  
  Thanks,
  -Dave
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:54 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
  
  
  I've seen similar things with Java.
  
  Are all the java related patches for the OS applied.  We recently have a
  similar issue with Solaris 2.8 and Java and applying the relevant patches
  cured it.
  
  File a bug report with Sun/IBM?
  
  Greg
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 15 November 2003 21:38
   To: Tomcat Users List
   Subject: Re: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
   
   
   Jim Goodspeed wrote:
Unfortunately we have also tried Sun's JVM and are
experiencing the same Signal 11 errors (I've included
two snippets of the Sun error - same error as the IBM
Sig 11, just in a different format).  Sometimes the
dump specifies the library in question, other times it
does not.

Thanks,
Jim

An unexpected exception has been detected in native
code outside the VM.
Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x1
Function=[Unknown.]
Library=(N/A)

An unexpected exception has been detected in native
code outside the VM.
Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x59DF83B0
Function=(null)+0x59DF83B0
Library=/usr/IBMdb2/V7.1/lib/libdb2.so.1
   
   Are you sure that the driver version and fixpack match the 
   server?  DB2 
   can do funny things when this is not the case.  See for example: 
   http://dbforums.com/arch/39/2002/9/515834
   
   Phil
   
   
   
   
   
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RE: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread David Muller
2X Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz with hyperthreading on

Downloaded binaries for Apache2.0.47  modjk2

RH Linux 8 - Linux 2.4.18-14smp #1 SMP Wed Sep 4 12:34:47 EDT 2002 i686 i686 i386 
GNU/Linux

IBM JDK 1.4.1

We tried LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5 on Sun JVM but it didn't seem to have an effect.

We are now crashing instead a socket in tomcat/modjk2 which is using native code. 

-Dave

-Original Message-
From: Oscar Carrillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:03 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??


What's your hardware? Are you running multiple processors?

Do you compile your own Apache2 and mod_jk/mod_jk2?

Have you tried compiling your own kernel from the more recent sources.  
Kernel 2.4 had some shaky releases and RedHat8 fell in the middle of it.  
Kernel 2.4.22 is the latest.

Have you tried setting the environment variable: LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5?

Oscar

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, David Muller wrote:

 Hello all, Can anyone please confirm or deny rumors that moving from RH8
 to RH9 fixes random Sig 11 crashes when an Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X app
 is loaded?
 
 We have gone through a huge matrix of heap sizes, stack sizes,
 connectors, connector settings, hyperthreading off, etc. with jvm
 gcverbose on and still get sig 11's at random places when we load our
 app.  This is with BOTH the IBM 1.4.1 JDK and the Sun 1.4.2_02 JDK.
 
 We have upgraded RH 8 with the latest OS patches.
 
 If anyone has found this and can point to a specific lib that would be
 even better.
 
 Thanks,
 -Dave
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
 
 
 I've seen similar things with Java.
 
 Are all the java related patches for the OS applied.  We recently have a
 similar issue with Solaris 2.8 and Java and applying the relevant patches
 cured it.
 
 File a bug report with Sun/IBM?
 
 Greg
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 15 November 2003 21:38
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Signal 11 causing Tomcat crash
  
  
  Jim Goodspeed wrote:
   Unfortunately we have also tried Sun's JVM and are
   experiencing the same Signal 11 errors (I've included
   two snippets of the Sun error - same error as the IBM
   Sig 11, just in a different format).  Sometimes the
   dump specifies the library in question, other times it
   does not.
   
   Thanks,
   Jim
   
   An unexpected exception has been detected in native
   code outside the VM.
   Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x1
   Function=[Unknown.]
   Library=(N/A)
   
   An unexpected exception has been detected in native
   code outside the VM.
   Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x59DF83B0
   Function=(null)+0x59DF83B0
   Library=/usr/IBMdb2/V7.1/lib/libdb2.so.1
  
  Are you sure that the driver version and fixpack match the 
  server?  DB2 
  can do funny things when this is not the case.  See for example: 
  http://dbforums.com/arch/39/2002/9/515834
  
  Phil
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
David,

2X Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz with hyperthreading on

Downloaded binaries for Apache2.0.47  modjk2

RH Linux 8 - Linux 2.4.18-14smp #1 SMP Wed Sep 4 12:34:47 EDT 2002 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Try using a single-processor kernel, turning off hyperthreading, and 
compiling Apache and mod_jk locally (instead of using binaries).

I know that dumping the multi-processor kernel is kinda silly when you 
have two processors, but having a dually running singly without crashing 
is better than a machine that crashes quickly. :)

-chris

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Re: RH9 fixes sig 11 with Apache2/Tomcat4/JVM1.4X/RH8??

2003-11-18 Thread David Rees
David Muller wrote:
2X Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz with hyperthreading on

Downloaded binaries for Apache2.0.47  modjk2

RH Linux 8 - Linux 2.4.18-14smp #1 SMP Wed Sep 4 12:34:47 EDT 2002
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
IBM JDK 1.4.1

We tried LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5 on Sun JVM but it didn't seem to have
an effect.
We are now crashing instead a socket in tomcat/modjk2 which is using
native code.
Wait, is the JVM crashing, or is Apache crashing?  If Apache is 
crashing, are you using a self-compiled mod_jk2 or binaries downloaded 
from somewhere?  If using a binary, try compiling mod_jk2 yourself.  If 
that also doesn't fix the issue, I would also try recompiling Apache 
from scratch as well and recompiling mod_jk2 once more as well.

-Dave

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